Has anyone heard Apple may release a iMac Pro 2?

[WizardHunt]

Has anyone read any article or news feed where they talk about releasing a new iMac Pro 2 possibly? If so, can you show a link here in your reply or tell me about it. Any news would be great. I am thinking of buying a iMac Pro but if they are going to upgrade that, then i should wait. But what makes sense to me is that they will upgrade the Mac Pro first and doubt they will release both the New Mac Pro and the iMac Pro 2 ( if this is a reality) at the same event. Any ideas?

 

[zedsdead]

There has been no rumors at all about an updated iMac Pro.

 

[BornAgainMac]

My fear is that the iMac Pro 2 will not be released until the year 2023 and when 8 cores will be laughable for a $5,000 Mac. Apple has a terrible track record with Macs now.

 

[danwells]

Right now, there are no suitable Xeons - the Xeon-W line in the present machines are current.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Has anyone read any article or news feed where they talk about releasing a new iMac Pro 2 possibly? If so, can you show a link here in your reply or tell me about it. Any news would be great. I am thinking of buying a iMac Pro but if they are going to upgrade that, then i should wait. But what makes sense to me is that they will upgrade the Mac Pro first and doubt they will release both the New Mac Pro and the iMac Pro 2 ( if this is a reality) at the same event. Any ideas?

Intel is set to add a 22-core version to the Core X-series Processors and an X299 PCH refresh along with debut of their 9th-Gen S-Series in October. Core X-series CPUs are the non-ECC, enthusiast version of the Xeon W, so it is logical to assume that Intel will release a 22-core version of the the Xeon W, possibly in October.

Given that the top 9th-Gen i-Series CPU has 8-cores/16-threads (Core i9-9900K), Apple may contemplate dropping the 8-core version of the iMac Pro and making the 10-core CPU the base while adding the 22-core as the top BTO CPU for the iMac Pro. This allows for some differentiation between the product lines as the 9900K will be bumping up against 27,000 in multi-core benchmarks (or slightly higher).

Apple could decide that it doesn't care about the overlap, which isn't that big a deal given the rest of the advantages of the iMac Pro has over the standard iMac or it could decide to make the 10-core the base if the 22-core is ready available. If there is no news on the 22-core Xeon W then it would be logical to assume that an introduction will not be coming until sometime in Q1 of 2019.

There is no iMac Pro 2 coming...not sure who started that sort of rumor, but Xeon W CPUs are new and they last a long time in Intel's sales cycle. There will be a 22-core Xeon W sometime in, the next 12 months, but higher core count CPUs from Intel suitable for Apple will be put in the 2019 Mac Pro (think 28 cores), not the iMac Pro.

AMD is not going to have their new Vega Instinct (7nm) ready until Q2 of 2019, so there is no suitable GPU upgrade this year. You might want to wait until Intel announces the Core X-Series and 9th Gen i-Series CPUs in October to see if a 22-core Xeon W drops, but if not, I would buy and not worry about it after that.

Also, get the 10-core unless you just cannot swing it.

 

[danielwsmithee]

Given that the top 9th-Gen i-Series CPU has 8-cores/16-threads (Core i9-9900K), Apple may contemplate dropping the 8-core version of the iMac Pro and making the 10-core CPU the base while adding the 22-core as the top BTO CPU for the iMac Pro. This allows for some differentiation between the product lines as the 9900K will be bumping up against 27,000 in multi-core benchmarks (or slightly higher).

This is my guess as well. I think more than likely you will see a price point, spec bump to the iMac Pro in the next year with 10-core base config, and the standard iMac going up to 8-core. Just my guess. I think they can likely hit a $5K price point with 10-core CPU based on the discounts that have been available already at retailers on the base iMac Pro.

 

[alien3dx]

ITANIUMM TRU 64 RELEASSE for mac pro2 . No fake x86 extension64

 

[wubsylol]

ITANIUMM TRU 64 RELEASSE for mac pro2 . No fake x86 extension64

I highly doubt Apple - or anyone really, given it's adoption rate - wants to rebuild their software for IA64.

 

[alien3dx]

I highly doubt Apple - or anyone really, given it's adoption rate - wants to rebuild their software for IA64.

it was horrible implementation before on my client site few years ago.Itanium is official dead anyway.

 

[maflynn]

ITANIUMM TRU 64 RELEASSE for mac pro2 . No fake x86 extension64

Do people even use the Itanium, I thought it was dead this point

As for the iMac Pro, I'm not sure we'll see anything in 2018

 

[alien3dx]

Do people even use the Itanium, I thought it was dead this point

As for the iMac Pro, I'm not sure we'll see anything in 2018

It just HP contract to intel which keep it alive. Just a reminder when most of people here don't understand we still using old tech from AMD 64 ext for extend memory limit 4GB ram or in some window server can put 8 GB max .

The more core nowadays just shrink pro which generate more heat. Unless APPLE move forward to real 64 proc which suppose like previous fact saying 32 bit app cannot be deploy in latest Sierra. To me it pretty weird, we still using the extension so if MAC PRO 2 should be true 64 with true 64 Operating System which potential never existed and we can call by da it's a rumor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

itanium is pretty slow proc anyway and i pretty sad client waste 30k dollar just to buy the server in 2008 because HP people saying good for billing system.

 

[Fishrrman]

Apple -might- release a "second" iMac Pro, but I think those chances are small.

The iMac Pro was intended to be a "fill-in" between the [old] existing Mac Pro and the as-yet-unreleased -new- Mac Pro that is supposed to get released sometime in the future.

It probably wasn't too difficult to re-work in the inner design of the iMac to transform it into a "pro" version, and I think we'll see those inner design changes get "migrated to" the -regular- iMac line.

But once the new Mac Pro models come out, I doubt Apple will put their resources into an "iMac Pro" as well. By then, it's "purpose" (see above) will have been fulfilled.

 

[WizardHunt]

Do people even use the Itanium, I thought it was dead this point

As for the iMac Pro, I'm not sure we'll see anything in 2018

So, the consensus is there will probably be no upgrade to iMac Pro this year. There seems to be a good chance that the Mac Pro will have some kind of update being its over due for a refresh. I am still up in the air whether or not to buy the iMac Pro now with 18 cores, 4 TB SSD, 16 GB GPU, and 128 GB Ram which would last me a long time. This being said, if the Mac Pro is updated which seems to be a better chance of that, but how will it be presented? Higher specs , more $$$ or price drop? Knowing Apple, doubt there would be a price drop, but the 10 core base would be good start. If I bought the iMac Pro and seen the Mac Pro come out with decent specs and not too high of price I could return the iMac Pro as I believe I have a 14 day return period. What would you guys do if you were me and money was not a problem up to $15,000 but no higher than $18,000?

 

[maflynn]

more $$$ or price drop?

That's not going to happen.

On paper spec for spec the iMac Pro is a good buy. Linus tech tips did a comparison and the cost basis is good, but the AIO design is not an ideal design for a workstation, its not really easily upgraded.

I'm sure my effigy will be burned for such a heretical statement

 

[WizardHunt]

That's not going to happen.

On paper spec for spec the iMac Pro is a good buy. Linus tech tips did a comparison and the cost basis is good, but the AIO design is not an ideal design for a workstation, its not really easily upgraded.

I'm sure my effigy will be burned for such a heretical statement

That’s true it not easily upgradable that’s why I would be forced to max out the unit. With the software and warranty and tax it will run into $16,000 so I won’t need to upgrade at this point.
[doublepost=1534949819][/doublepost]At this point , I don’t think I would be able to afford a Mac Pro maxed out as they would probably want $25,000 at minimum so I think the iMac Pro is the way to go for me at this point.

 

[danwells]

I think the iMac Pro will continue as a Xeon-W offering (I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the 22-core show up as a top option, unless it has a much higher TDP). It will be their default single-processor workstation, with the Mac Pro above it for a few specialized needs.

I think the modular Mac Pro will probably be Xeon-SP and dual processor capable. If Apple really gets creative, they might have the number of processor sockets modular somehow, allowing it to be quad-processor capable (the Xeon-SP chips they'd use are quad-processor capable). The problem with quad-processor capability is that it requires a huge amount of power and cooling - as much as 1 KW for the processors alone, easily 2-2.5 KW with the amounts of memory and the graphics configurations that machine would need.

They won't build that level of power supply and cooling system into every Mac Pro, when the majority of sales will be single-processor (and maybe an 800 watt total power draw). Not only is it massive overkill, it actually has to be plugged into either a 240 V outlet or two separate 120 V circuits, so it would be a huge pain. The only way they could do it is to be so heavily modular that there was a base module that contained a processor and power circuitry (perhaps also RAM and GPU), that you could use 1-4 of.

 

[cwanja]

So, the consensus is there will probably be no upgrade to iMac Pro this year. There seems to be a good chance that the Mac Pro will have some kind of update being its over due for a refresh. I am still up in the air whether or not to buy the iMac Pro now with 18 cores, 4 TB SSD, 16 GB GPU, and 128 GB Ram which would last me a long time. This being said, if the Mac Pro is updated which seems to be a better chance of that, but how will it be presented? Higher specs , more $$$ or price drop? Knowing Apple, doubt there would be a price drop, but the 10 core base would be good start. If I bought the iMac Pro and seen the Mac Pro come out with decent specs and not too high of price I could return the iMac Pro as I believe I have a 14 day return period. What would you guys do if you were me and money was not a problem up to $15,000 but no higher than $18,000?

Not sure when you are going to order your iMac Pro, but the Mac Pro is rumored for a 2019 release date. Which gives you 365 days to guess when to order it and be in your 14 day window. Remember that US restocking fee on opened items is 10% in the US. Not sure if it is any different on BTOs.

If you are just flush with money and need the machine, order the iMac Pro and then sell it if the Mac Pro wets your lips more when it is released. Or I can give you a shipping address to send a new iMac Pro too. Your choice

 

[WizardHunt]

I Can't wait a year or even next summer I need a more powerful Mac for video work and well I went ahead and ordered it. I talked with my Apple store manager and if i choose i can return it within 14 days though he explained he let it go to 30 on some cases. So i have no worries. The iMac Pro has enough push for my job i need to do. Thanks for all the input but no more reason to comment on this thread anymore. It can be closed. I am happy with my decision i made. Cheers