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I have some remaining issues with Notes (not syncing), and Email (not exactly sure how to characterize the problems), but I am managing. I have a Mac up and running most of the day and can just go to the Mac to see if there are emails that I didn't see on my iPhone or iPad.
 
I own two iPhone XR’s, an iPad Air 3 and an Apple Watch series 4. iOS and iPadOS have not ruined anything here. I do still see two bugs:

* Reminders are not syncing between devices
* Receiving notifications of new email but no new email appears in the Mail app

Both bugs can easily be mitigated by refreshing the relevant apps. I would not call that “ruining” anything, just a step or two and I’m back in business.
If a Samsung phone required such a refresh on the relevant apps everyone here would be mocking them.
 
Anyone else getting an issue where there phone gets incredibly hot and their Apple Watch completely drains its battery?
The two seem to be linked but I guess it could be too seperate issues. I’ve never had the watch drain without the phone getting hot.
It’s an iPhone 11 and a series 4 both on the latest versions.
 
IoS 13.2 was supposed to correct the problems. Well, I have had it for almost 24 hours and the camera app has not crashed yet but every time I use it all other apps restart when I open them again. So, in short, still having problems. I give up.
 
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I upgraded my phone this year, and iOS 13 has been fine on it. However iOS 13 HAS affected my iPad Pro 9.7" negatively. I wouldn't say "ruined" as I can still do everything I've done before with it, but there are new annoyances, particularly the fact that apps seem to get booted from memory a lot more than they used to, even running the same set of apps I used to.

Safari in particular gets booted and causes me to lose my place in Twitter and on other sites. Memory management could use some work to get it back to how it was under iOS 12.
 
iOS13 sucks for me just for what it’s fine to Mail.

Emails now display twice. When you reply or forward, only the top two lines of the original email displays.

I could go on. It sucks.
 
If a Samsung phone required such a refresh on the relevant apps everyone here would be mocking them.
You mean like how everybody here is mocking Apple for it? I don't believe they (we) would because people around here typically don't talk about other manufacturers' devices on the iPhone forum unless they're brought up by someone telling us how much better they are and how APPLE SUXXXX.
 
Samdung are just as as Crapple! (Very true)

Is that better?
I don't own any Samsung other than a TV. No clue. But plenty of people have chimed in on these iOS 13 threads to to say "at least I don't have an Android!' or have made other excuses for software bugs that they'd never forgive coming from an Android user. That's what annoys me.

I don't care what kind of phone anyone uses. I just want what I use to work properly. And until iOS 13, that was an iPhone. Hopefully Apple will use the next year to make iOS 14 a lot more like 12.
 
I don't own any Samsung other than a TV. No clue. But plenty of people have chimed in on these iOS 13 threads to to say "at least I don't have an Android!' or have made other excuses for software bugs that they'd never forgive coming from an Android user. That's what annoys me.

I don't care what kind of phone anyone uses. I just want what I use to work properly. And until iOS 13, that was an iPhone. Hopefully Apple will use the next year to make iOS 14 a lot more like 12.

Apple have got a lot of work to do. They really dropped a bollock with iOS 13. And the continuing problems with email app since the very first beta is absolutely unacceptable. Untrained monkeys could crap better code than Apple are producing at the moment.
 
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Apple have got a lot of work to do. They really dropped a bollock with iOS 13. And the continuing problems with email app since the very first beta is absolutely unacceptable. Untrained monkeys could crap better code than Apple are producing at the moment.

I don't understand why the mail app is all of a sudden a catastrophe

I know they made delete closer to reply icon, but did they like try to rebuild it from the ground up or something?

totally baffling

And now something I cant take for granted, working well enough on my iOS 12 (and remaining iOS 11 iPad) devices
 
I don't understand why the mail app is all of a sudden a catastrophe

I know they made delete closer to reply icon, but did they like try to rebuild it from the ground up or something?

totally baffling

And now something I cant take for granted, working well enough on my iOS 12 (and remaining iOS 11 iPad) devices

I don’t know. Is mind-boggling isn’t it. There is even more steps involved now to archive or move. Plenty of screen real estate at the bottom and they just have one or two little icons. As you say, in iOS 12 email was perfect, now it’s nothing short of an abortion. If it was up to me I would be sacking the team responsible for the mail app. They are clearly not fit for purpose.
 
Samdung are just as as Crapple! (Very true)

Is that better?

Funny that that's how you put it, because the word that I reach for every time I think about my misadventures in Android-land is "cesspool" and I mean exactly that. We're on the same frequency here. ;) I don't know how bad Apple would have to get before I went back. I hate to say this in public, but it would have to be a lot worse than the current cluster****, which is pretty sad.
 
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As sure as the morning sun Apple will be coming with a .1 to clean 🧼 🧽 out the seepage Fairly soon. They’re collecting all the major bug reports as we post
 
I have but am not willing to as that would result in an awful lot of data loss, an awful lot. Don’t see why I should need to do that; if it is a software issue surely Apple have to sort it, if it is a hardware issue they need to replace or repair it. It’s times like this when Apple need to step up and justify their eye watering prices; less than a year and a £799 phone essentially malfunctioning is not on.

Try to reset phone as new. Do the backup first (iCloud or pc/Mac). It’s worth in my case. Good battery life, well function notes sync and iCloud. So far it has been stable as rock (I still use 13.1.3 iPadOS).
 
Try to reset phone as new. Do the backup first (iCloud or pc/Mac). It’s worth in my case. Good battery life, well function notes sync and iCloud. So far it has been stable as rock (I still use 13.1.3 iPadOS).
This appears to be my only option but I am loathe to. I will lose literally everything which obviously is not the end of the world but it is going to be very inconvenient. I also buy that it is a bug in my backup because my iphone 6 lagged, crashed and was slow but then I got my XR, set it up with my restored backup and it was absolutely fine (quick, no lagging, apps not restarting in the background, no crashing) which is why I think it could be a hardware issue.
 
This appears to be my only option but I am loathe to. I will lose literally everything which obviously is not the end of the world but it is going to be very inconvenient. I also buy that it is a bug in my backup because my iphone 6 lagged, crashed and was slow but then I got my XR, set it up with my restored backup and it was absolutely fine (quick, no lagging, apps not restarting in the background, no crashing) which is why I think it could be a hardware issue.

Some data - the data in Apple apps that back up to iCloud and other apps that back up to some other cloud server - will re-sync. But any app that stores its data locally, and I have some of those with years of data, will not, and setting up as new will lose that valuable data. If you do try setting up as new, make an encrypted backup (or better, make two, one on iTunes and one on iCloud) just before so you can restore all the data when (not if) setting up as new fails to solve the bugs. BTDT, no meaningful change...
 
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Some data - the data in Apple apps that back up to iCloud and other apps that back up to some other cloud server - will re-sync. But any app that stores its data locally, and I have some of those with years of data, will not, and setting up as new will lose that valuable data. If you do try setting up as new, make an encrypted backup (or better, make two, one on iTunes and one on iCloud) just before so you can restore all the data when (not if) setting up as new fails to solve the bugs. BTDT, no meaningful change...
Will do.

The data that will be backed up and re-sync though, surely the bug could be in there and would be carried forward?

Whatever Apple tell me I am convinced that it is a device issue - I would very keen to restore to a brand new phone and see if I get the same issues.
 
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Will do.

The data that will be backed up and re-sync though, surely the bug could be in there and would be carried forward?

Whatever Apple tell me I am convinced that it is a device issue - I would very keen to restore to a brand new phone and see if I get the same issues.

I don't think so. At least I haven't experienced that and I've done several phone swaps since 13 was introduced. My only caution for you would be that iCloud syncing both up and down can take some time, so don't think you can just flip the settings to 'on' and instantly sync those apps up to iCloud. Similarly, down-syncing has taken up to 24 hours for me; it might be more if you have huge numbers of photos or a ton of information in Health (which is encrypted, and slow).
 
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I bought a brand new iPhone 11 Pro, and now CarPlay cuts out in my 2018 Malibu.

It was solid on iOS 12.3 on my iPhone XS
 
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