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Has the Jailroken Community Given up?

Senor360 said:
Sorry.. just hadn't had my coffee yet and was pissy. Sense slowly creeping in and your right. Pirating the apps doesn't help anybody. Also, if you can't flip over .99 for some of the great stuff available, we'll force you into a room with only a G1 and their market to deal with. :eek:The horror, the horror!!:eek:
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I don't think people have a problem with paying 99 cents for an app. It's the fact that you have to pay for it in the first place and if its crap you basically just wasted your money. Don't get me wrong, it's not like you've just gone bankrupt due to buying iBeer and found out its only amusing for 30 seconds.
If apple had a refund policy I think more people would be inclined to buy.
 
mavis said:
I think it's great that you either don't notice the slow down or don't care about it. I wish I could tolerate it, because I'd love to be able to use custom themes again and I really like SBSettings, too. :(
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Yeah I don't know what it is.

When I had the 1st iPhone with 1.1.x jailbroken, it actually ran surprisingly very well. So well that I don't even remember having reboot the phone at all during the day.

There has to be a hardware difference between different 3G's. Jailbreaking my 3G (purchased one week after launch - first run?) is a completely different experience. Slowdowns and freezing is common. I come from Windows Mobile, so rebooting really isn't an issue for me, but it would be nice to have 1.1.x-like stability.

That being said, friends with 3G's purchased later on have no issues with jailbreaking. Who knows.
 
spamdumpster said:
Did you even read the more info or the comments?
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I saw the comments. I can just see with my own eyes that the un-jailbroken one is faster. It didn't load the weather channel as fast, but that had nothing to do with the start-up, it was an internet connection thing. The jailbroken iPhone took longer to start up the weather channel app, but it loaded the internet data faster... and we all know that internet speeds vary.
 
TSX said:
Are you serious the jailbreaking pro's out weigh the con's.
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Not really... I'd rather have a stable and bug-free experience. Is there a jailbroken app that makes the iPhone run FASTER than stock? If so, then I'll jailbreak. However, for me... jailbreaking just slows down the phone.
 
TheSpaz said:
Not really... I'd rather have a stable and bug-free experience. Is there a jailbroken app that makes the iPhone run FASTER than stock? If so, then I'll jailbreak. However, for me... jailbreaking just slows down the phone.
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Have you ever jailbroken your phone?
 
TSX said:
Have you ever jailbroken your phone?
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Way too many times to count. Trust me, I know my way around the iPhone inside and out. I have plenty of experience in jailbreaking and modding. I ultimately kept going back to stock until I get bored again and jailbreak again. Ever since 2.0, jailbreaking just isn't exciting. It causes more problems than it fixes. Staying stock works for me and I don't have to fiddle with everything.

By the way. I've been jailbreaking ever since the 47-something-step manual jailbreak for 1.1.1 before jailbreakme.com was released. So, I'm pretty old-school.
 
TheSpaz said:
Way too many times to count. Trust me, I know my way around the iPhone inside and out. I have plenty of experience in jailbreaking and modding. I ultimately kept going back to stock until I get bored again and jailbreak again. Ever since 2.0, jailbreaking just isn't exciting. It causes more problems than it fixes. Staying stock works for me and I don't have to fiddle with everything.

By the way. I've been jailbreaking ever since the 47-something-step manual jailbreak for 1.1.1 before jailbreakme.com was released. So, I'm pretty old-school.
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cool, I jailbroke mine for the video recording, 5 dock, winterboard, and for the UPnPAV this allows me to play my music on my iphone wireless on my home sound system:D.
 
I was once jailbroken, for the kicks mostly to see how else I could pimp it up. The lag made me decide that it's not worth the effort after all and after 3 weeks I gave up on it.

With 3.0, there is zero incentive for me to jailbreak again. It has everything that I forsee I myself needing (or wanting).
 
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jarjarblinks said:
I was once jailbroken, for the kicks mostly to see how else I could pimp it up. The lag made me decide that it's not worth the effort after all and after 3 weeks I gave up on it.

With 3.0, there is zero incentive for me to jailbreak again. It has everything that I forsee I myself needing (or wanting).
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Yup, I've jailbroken at least once on every firmware since 2.0.1. I usually go back to stock in less than a week, once the lag starts really getting on my nerves.

Unlike you, though, I can see myself jailbreaking post-3.0. I'll buy the new iPhone this summer (assuming it has at least twice as much RAM as the 3G) and hopefully it'll have the horsepower to be able to jailbreak without lagging. I really hope so! I'd love to be able to customize again!!
 
Senor360 said:
Your highhorse is here.. there you go.. trot along...... :D
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Ok, so let me understand this right... so let's say you are a Dev and put out an app out there for say $10. After Apple's cut tat is $7 ain't it? Well, let's say that one person buys it and then some other guy buys it but instead of promoting buying it from you, he pirates copies to his 40+ friends. How would you feel being robbed of excess $280?

Feel it now? No, I guessed so, people like make it harder for all of us. Let's hope you do pay for anything Apple gives us. I will really hate Apple going all WGA on us.

Hope the message actually got through your head.... although I highly doubt it.

Tallest Skil said:
https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

Read them before saying anything like that again.
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Thanks for the back-up
 
jav6454 said:
Ok, so let me understand this right... so let's say you are a Dev and put out an app out there for say $10. After Apple's cut tat is $7 ain't it? Well, let's say that one person buys it and then some other guy buys it but instead of promoting buying it from you, he pirates copies to his 40+ friends. How would you feel being robbed of excess $280?
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See what you just did there? You just made the leap and assumed that those 40 friends were going to pay $10 for that app before the pirate handed them a free copy.

There is a difference between being robbed of $280 and not making $280.

No one took money from that developer, that developer just didn't make $280 in sales on those 40 people. And if you can tell me that 40 out of 40 people would all have paid ten dollars for that app, I would love to know what that app is.

I could just as well claim that nice weather made people want to go outside for a walk in the park, and not sit at home and play fart games on their iphone, and claim that the sun stole eighteen million dollars from out of my pocket.

If you download software or music or movies or any digital media for free, and you keep it, you should certainly pay for it. At the very least, you'll know you're getting a decent install of it. But since there is no trial mode on these amateur apps, this was bound to happen.
 
ThunderSkunk said:
See what you just did there? You just made the leap and assumed that those 40 friends were going to pay $10 for that app before the pirate handed them a free copy.

There is a difference between being robbed of $280 and not making $280.

No one took money from that developer, that developer just didn't make $280 in sales on those 40 people. And if you can tell me that 40 out of 40 people would all have paid ten dollars for that app, I would love to know what that app is.

I could just as well claim that nice weather made people want to go outside for a walk in the park, and not sit at home and play fart games on their iphone, and claim that the sun stole eighteen million dollars from out of my pocket.

If you download software or music or movies or any digital media for free, and you keep it, you should certainly pay for it. At the very least, you'll know you're getting a decent install of it. But since there is no trial mode on these amateur apps, this was bound to happen.
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Well said, the whole thing. I agree completely.
 
ThunderSkunk said:
See what you just did there? You just made the leap and assumed that those 40 friends were going to pay $10 for that app before the pirate handed them a free copy.

There is a difference between being robbed of $280 and not making $280.

No one took money from that developer, that developer just didn't make $280 in sales on those 40 people. And if you can tell me that 40 out of 40 people would all have paid ten dollars for that app, I would love to know what that app is.

I could just as well claim that nice weather made people want to go outside for a walk in the park, and not sit at home and play fart games on their iphone, and claim that the sun stole eighteen million dollars from out of my pocket.

If you download software or music or movies or any digital media for free, and you keep it, you should certainly pay for it. At the very least, you'll know you're getting a decent install of it. But since there is no trial mode on these amateur apps, this was bound to happen.
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Not making $280 or robbing you of $280 in this case is the same, you simply took something from the Dev that you weren't supposed to have, period. I never meant an specific named app, just set up the example.

I'm not going to argue the rest of your statement as its only a poor excuse for pirating apps. You know you are not supposed to, then don't do it. Using an excuse is no better.
 
I will always jailbreak. Jailbreaking allows you to do so much more..and to all thoes people who went back to stock .. they just dont know how to run a good jailbroken iphone.

I have NEVER had lag anytimes i have jailbroken.. and people are saying now with 3.0 no reason to jailbreak.

yes there will be .. i can even imagine the jailbreak apps that are going to be comming out now..

oh and i dont even go into the appstore i just get my **** from cydia(not cracked apps)

cycorder bossprefs insomnia,and other ****.. i seriously dont know how anyone could like stock...

stock sucks always will ... no lag for me in jailbreak and to the people that say well you dont notice it.. No i dont notice it cause its not there..

you can have your sucky stock iphones JAILBREAK will always RULE over Stock.
 
jav6454 said:
Ok, so let me understand this right... so let's say you are a Dev and put out an app out there for say $10. After Apple's cut tat is $7 ain't it? Well, let's say that one person buys it and then some other guy buys it but instead of promoting buying it from you, he pirates copies to his 40+ friends. How would you feel being robbed of excess $280?
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If an app is well made,fun,useful devs have nothing to worry about, its going to sell well and get positive reviews in the app store, even if it gets pirated.
 
TSX said:
If an app is well made,fun,useful devs have nothing to worry about, its going to sell well and get positive reviews in the app store, even if it gets pirated.
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It doesn't matter all what you said. The app could be stripped and not even to standards or for that matter everyone gives it a 1 star rating. Pirating an app is still pirating and saying or assuming the positions people here have started to take is sugar coating that fact.
 
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