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newmaccanada

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Jul 19, 2005
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:( I downloaded and installed the 10.4.3 update onto my:

ibook 14 in 133 mhz 1.25 g ram

On reboot, it took forever to start Mac osX. Then after I entered my password at login screen I got the spinning beachball for about 10 minutes with no progress.

I hit the power button and did a restart and the same thing has now happened -- long long startup (10 minutes) and spinning beachball after login that won't stop (it's now been another 5 minutes).

What should I do?

Thanks in advance from a newbie who until this point has had not problems.
 

Eniregnat

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Jan 22, 2003
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In your head.
EDIT- The above seems likely - Wait it out - EDIT


Push and hold the power button. I believe if you hold the D button, it will force the computer to boot from the hard drive. Sombody else should chime in on this.

I posted this elseware, but it may help.

Apple.com said:
About 10.4.3 Article #301984, "Delta" update
Important: ...
*You may experience unexpected results if you have third-party system software modifications installed, or if you've modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)
*The installation process should not be interrupted. If a power outage or other interruption occurs during installation, use the standalone installer (see below) from Apple Downloads to update.
*If issues occur during installation—for example, Software Update quits unexpectedly—please see this article.

Stand Alone- if your flickerd.

I hope this helps some.

It may be you need to boot from the restore or Tiger disk, and see if you can repare premissions, and see if that helps.

Perhaps running the install again (see StandAlone above), to see it it helps. See the link in the quote for trouble shooting.

I post this only because I read the "Read This Before You Install", and I'd hate to think that I wasted my time.

Good luck.
 

newmaccanada

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Jul 19, 2005
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liketom said:
wait it looks to be re indexing your spotlight data foryour system

Thanks liketom -- there seems to be some progress now. I am past spinning beachball and now at blue backgroud screen (but without dock or icons). Maybe its just a question of waiting this out.
 

QCassidy352

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Mar 20, 2003
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Give it a bit more time before you panic. My ibook took a loooong time to boot up after the update. Maybe not quite as long as yours, but still quite a wait.
 

ohcrap

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Aug 12, 2005
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My PB took no longer than 2 minutes to reboot after installing the 97MB update.

Keep waiting, though. Sounds like it's coming along. Must be different for different machines or something. :confused:
 

newmaccanada

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Jul 19, 2005
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thanks everyone.

It's finally up!!! I'm just repairing permissions and then hopefully the second start up won't be quite as worrying.
 

longwood

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May 10, 2005
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mine is doing the same thing. i let it load up for about 10 minutes and still didn't get a login screen. i guess i'll just wait longer. when i updated to 10.4.2 it didn't take this long. :(
 

Lacero

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Yeah, the first reboot after the update had me sweating bullets because it took so long. I updated in the middle of a very important project and didn't bother to make a backup.

But thankfully everything booted fine and I was able to continue with my work.
 

longwood

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May 10, 2005
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im going on 14 minutes now and still a blue screen. 1.2ghz 512mb. should i start being concerned?
 

trainguy77

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try booting holding the shift key. I had this happen about 3 weeks ago with a 10.2 machine but i had to do a archive install to fix it.
 

newmaccanada

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Jul 19, 2005
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longwood said:
im going on 14 minutes now and still a blue screen. 1.2ghz 512mb. should i start being concerned?

I just waited it out. It also took just as lonng on the second reboot (after repairing permissions). It's running fine now and Safari seems speedier after the update.

I'm a researcher and have tons of doc/pdf files. I am wondering if the reboot took so long because of Spotlight and indexing text.

Anyone else with lots of text files on harddrive experience long bootup??
 

ElectricSheep

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Feb 18, 2004
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You might try booting into single user mode (if you can't boot normally at all) and trashing the following files:

/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kernelcaches
/System/Library/Extensions.kextcache
/System/Library/Extensions.mkext
/Library/Caches/com.apple.ATS
/Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices*
 

longwood

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May 10, 2005
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i ran disk utility from the install dvd. didn't fix anything. so then i just decided to do a archive install and that seemed to work just fine. i think im going to copy everything to an external drive and do a full erase/install. thanks for the help everybody. i just dont understand why this happened.
 

Sly

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Nov 30, 2003
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My imac G4 crapped out after the reboot. Booting from the Tiger disk and running disk repair gave me an error of "bad Node structure" disk is not repairable. :mad: I have had to run a complete erase and install. Good job I made a complete backup before starting the 10.4.3 install. This is the first time EVER I have had to re-install the system on a Mac.
 

grapes911

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Jul 28, 2003
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When you update your Mac, all the files can not be installed because certain system files are in use. All files that cannot be copied over are placed in a folder to be installed at reboot. If you look before you reboot, you'll find a locked folder called waiting to be installed or something like that. Then during reboot those files are moved to the correct places. My 1.67 PB took 4 minutes to get to the login, then it reindex spotlight for a while. My roommate has the same system and it took 2 minutes and no idex. Expect older systems to wait even longer. Maybe even up to 15 minutes. The worst thing you can do it turn off the computer during boot. Some files will be moved and others will not. Meaning You'll be running 10.4.2.5 (somewhere between 10.4.2 and 10.4.3. Ok, bad joke :eek: )
 

shadowmoses

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My iBook in sig took a while on the first re-boot but is now running better than ever, mine kept spinning on the white apple startup for like 3 minutes and i was getting worried, but there was no need all went well,

SHadow
 
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