I'm trying to install Panther and it acts like it's not reading the CD drive. I get a flashing icon followed by a circle with a slash. I've tried holding down the C key and tried holding down the Option key.
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Help. I'm trying to install Panther
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I finally figured out the problem. I had a bad batch of CD's. So far everything is installing
This is how I did it on my iMac G3.
Personally, I'd go with Tiger and spend some time optimising and tweaking it. Tiger is better than Panther and opens the door to running new stuff by the community.
I would agree with @TheShortTimer. I installed Panther on a PowerMac G4 tower and quickly found that it was nearly impossible to get much meaningful software for it. There is the "Panther Thread" here on Mac Rumors that provides some application links, but in general, per @TheShortTimer, Tiger is much more richly represented in the app space.
Unless performance is an issue, I would go with Tiger vs. Panther. That having been said, I do understand the historical interest in bringing up and running Panther - I have done it myself!
Unless performance is an issue, I would go with Tiger vs. Panther. That having been said, I do understand the historical interest in bringing up and running Panther - I have done it myself!
Yeah, most of the new PPC stuff that's been created by our community requires Tiger as the absolute minimum. In the past, I ran it as part of a triple-boot on my Gigabit G4 along with OS 9 and Tiger but nowadays I wouldn't bother with it because Tiger is basically an improved version of Panther.
Performance doesn't have to be an issue though. As I pointed out in my reply, Tiger can be optimised and tweaked to run well on lesser machines - as I've done so on my iMac G3/350.
I only have 192mb of ram. Do you think Tiger would run on that? Do I need to have Panther installed first or can I go straight to Tiger?
What are you going to do with OS X?
Tiger will run — but not nicely — but the installer might require more RAM, and it will complain because your iMac doesn’t have FireWire. You can install Tiger once that non-issue is circumvented.
However, I wouldn’t even think about OS X with less than 256 MB, better yet 512 MB.
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@Amethyst1 types faster than me and beat me to replying but to reiterate, Tiger's official minimum RAM requirement is 256MB. You could probably get away with 192MB but as he's already warned, I dread to think how painful it would be. As has been answered already, there's no requirement to install Panther first.
Do yourself a favour and pick up some extra RAM for the iMac. You'll thank yourself for it.
Have a look on eBay for starters. You should be able to find cheap stuff on there easily.
The maximum RAM is 512 MB, but that requires two low-density 256 MB modules. (The more common high-density modules will be recognised as 128 MB.)
I think the iMac G3 333 MHz is too old for USB booting. You need firmware later than 1.3f2 04/23/99 such as 3.0f3 06/13/00 which is the earliest that I know that boots USB.
https://68kmla.org/bb/index.php?thr...-booting-from-usb-from-the-boot-picker.48601/
I tried to boot from the image from the link but it won't go past the flashing iconThis is how I did it on my iMac G3.
Personally, I'd go with Tiger and spend some time optimising and tweaking it. Tiger is better than Panther and opens the door to running new stuff by the community.
Okay, I didn't use the version in that link but according to a poster, it boots from USB. They copied the image using Disk Utility and held down Option post-chime.
I don't think that you need XPostFacto - in my case I certainly didn't.
How did you set up the USB install in Disk Utility? Was it the same as my method?
Not if the firmware hasn't been updated as @joevt warned:
You've got an iBook G4, right? You could remove the HDD from the iMac, place it in a USB enclosure or connect it to a USB IDE adapter and plug it into your iBook and run the Tiger installer and let it install to the HDD. Afterwards, put the HDD back inside the iMac and it'll boot up Tiger.
That's one option to keep in mind.
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Apparently this would have to be done with OS 9 installed on the HDD.
See my suggestion to just remove the HDD and install Tiger on it from the iBook using a USB enclosure/adapter.
Could I download the tiger-10-4-6-ppc.iso (3.53 GB) from Macintosh Garden and use an IDE adapter so I could put a SSD in it?Apparently this would have to be done with OS 9 installed on the HDD.
See my suggestion to just remove the HDD and install Tiger on it from the iBook using a USB enclosure/adapter.
Yes, you can!
I wanted to suggest that you buy an SSD but its an added expense and I didn't want to come across as directing you to spend money that you might not want to… The HDD in the iMac will likely be slow - even for its time and an SSD will provide a noticeable boost in performance.
With my iMac G3, I used an IDE to SATA adapter with an SSD.
Make sure that you get an adapter like mine that has a red PCB - aka the Marvell 88SA8052 chipset. You could connect the SSD to your iBook with a USB adapter and then install Tiger onto it and afterwards fit the SSD inside the iMac. This might be an even better solution.
I have this one laying around would it work?Yes, you can!
I wanted to suggest that you buy an SSD but its an added expense and I didn't want to come across as directing you to spend money that you might not want to… The HDD in the iMac will likely be slow - even for its time and an SSD will provide a noticeable boost in performance.
With my iMac G3, I used an IDE to SATA adapter with an SSD.
Make sure that you get an adapter like mine that has a red PCB - aka the Marvell 88SA8052 chipset. You could connect the SSD to your iBook with a USB adapter and then install Tiger onto it and afterwards fit the SSD inside the iMac. This might be an even better solution.
Do I need to partition the drive because it's a tray loading iMac? The drive that's in the computer now has a 7gb partition for Panther