MP 1,1-5,1 Help! I've moved Opencore to the wrong drive

[sirroderick]

I just noticed I seem to have moved Opencore from the installer USB to the wrong drive (i.e. not a system drive). I really don't understand how that happened. I''m starting to panic a bit because I've spent several days reinstalling/authorizing all my software from scratch. Everything seems to be working fine so I never noticed. I really don't know how that could have happened. Is it possible to move it to the system drive?

 

[startergo]

Download OpenCore configurator. When you open it in the top right corner and you point to the OpnCore configurator item there should be an option to mount EFI drive. In there You will see the actual OC boot EFI volume and can mount it.

 

[sirroderick]

Is that the cloverleaf configurator?

 

[sirroderick]

I can't move it directly from the OPENCORE app then?

 

[sirroderick]

I just don't know how this happened in the first place. I would never have selected a non-system drive to move OC to, especially a mechanical drive

 

[sirroderick]

I just noticed I seem to have moved Opencore from the installer USB to the wrong drive (i.e. not a system drive). I really don't understand how that happened. I''m starting to panic a bit because I've spent several days reinstalling/authorizing all my software from scratch. Everything seems to be working fine so I never noticed. I really don't know how that could have happened. Is it possible to move it to the system drive?

Download OpenCore configurator. When you open it in the top right corner and you point to the OpnCore configurator item there should be an option to mount EFI drive. In there You will see the actual OC boot EFI volume and can mount it.

Nothing in top right hand corner but there's a 'Mount EFI' option in the tools menu. I've mounted the partition -now what?

 

[startergo]

Is that the cloverleaf configurator?

Download OpenCore Configurator 2.77.0.0 | mackie100 projects

OpenCore Configurator will help you to fully configure your OpenCore bootloader.

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[startergo]

Download OpenCore Configurator 2.77.0.0 | mackie100 projects

OpenCore Configurator will help you to fully configure your OpenCore bootloader.

mackie100projects.altervista.org

Look up in the toolbar there should be drop down menu.

 

[sirroderick]

But what do I do after I've mounted it? I'm at the screen grab attachment above. Do I open it now? TBH I have NO idea what this app does

 

[sirroderick]

I'm not sure I've adequately explained what's happened here. When I first completed the OpenCore installation the window never opened for transferring OC from the USB installer to the system drive so I had to look around for advice on how to do that. I followed a YouTube vid using the OCLP app in my Apps folder. It seemed to work but I now realise it transferred OC to a random mechanical drive. Maybe because I called the drive 'Content' I have no idea.

 

[startergo]

Once you mount the EFI folder you can copy OC folder to your mounted EFI on the USB drive and remove OC folder in the original EFI folder.

 

[sirroderick]

When you say 'USB drive' do you mean the exact same USB stick I first installed OC Monterey with? cos that no longer exists. I've rebuilt it twice to install on my 2 other Macs. Attached is the directory of the hard drive 'Content'. The Applications, Lib, System & Users folders seem to be copies of the System SSD (except Library is truncated to Lib). I assume the EFI is not visible at the desktop level. BTW the 'Content' drive appears in the startup disk options.

 

[startergo]

You can put it in any EFI folder on any drive. Just select and mount it in the OC configurator. But there is a dedicated thread for OC on a Mac Pro, why don't you follow the guide in the first post there?

 

[sirroderick]

Assume you mean this https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/opencore-on-the-mac-pro.2207814/
I did start to wade through that some weeks ago but I'm afraid just don't have the free time to absorb that much tech info. It goes on forever. I really need to get back to work and my Macs are where I do it. All 3 are running Monterey flawlessly now but when I cloned these 3 installs I realised I had this prob with my main Mac Pro. I'm guessing it's effectively running half on an SSD and half on a mechanical drive.

This seems like a disaster waiting to happen so I need to address it but I just don't have the time to go back to the drawing board to do so. If this Configurator app can rectify this problem do you know of a thread that walks us through the transfer process.

 

[sirroderick]

Thanks BTW

 

[paalb]

This seems like a disaster waiting to happen so I need to address it but I just don't have the time to go back to the drawing board to do so. If this Configurator app can rectify this problem do you know of a thread that walks us through the transfer process.

This is not a problem, many of us that are using OC on 5,1 macs are having the OC EFI on a non-system drive. The instructions you follow are for single drive macs. Or made by people who don’t know better. With the 5,1 we have the options to use another drive and it is a better solution.

 

[sirroderick]

Interesting. Sadly it seems there are a lot of 'people who don't know better' out (including me). So do I assume you're taking up the 2 4-lane PCI slots with the SSDs or are you putting them on the SATA2 bus?

 

[tsialex]

Interesting. Sadly it seems there are a lot of 'people who don't know better' out (including me). So do I assume you're taking up the 2 4-lane PCI slots with the SSDs or are you putting them on the SATA2 bus?

You can put your OC ESP anywhere that your Mac Pro can boot, SATA HDDs/SSDs, SATA DVDs, USB disks/key, FW disks, PCIe drives.

I don't know if anyone confirmed, but I don't doubt that you can boot OpenCore with a MacPro5,1 even from a NetBoot share.

 

[paalb]

I moved the Mojave system disk I had in Bay 1 to to CD-Slot Location Upper. Placed one small SSD in Bay 1. Put EFI folder in it. Have Big Sur on the NVMe. As @tsialex says, you are free to place it anywhere. Having it seperate from working system makes everything more flexible.

 

[sirroderick]

Well psslib since you're obviously significantly more up to speed with OC than me can you shed any light on this?

I thought I'd try upgrading OCLP from 0.4.7 to 0.4.10 After all plenty of other people seem to have managed it without issue. I did the following:

1) downloaded 0.4.10 and put it my application folder (overwriting 0.4.7)
2) ran the OC update and clicked on 'Post Install root Patch.
3) clicked on 'Start Root Patching' and entered password

Progress details scroll as normal but then instead of going straight to login again I got a window with "Optimising Your Mac, Performance will be compromised until completed'. Then after several minutes it jumped to the OS setup windows you get when you first install Monterey. (Accessibility options etc but notably NOT the 'choose password' window). The trouble is that when the login window appears and I enter my password the screen clears for minute or so then the log appears again -ad infinitum.

Looks alarmingly like a basket case to me but maybe you know different. I'd love not to have to start from scratch again.

 

[tsialex]

3) clicked on 'Start Root Patching' and entered password

Why you are root patching? A properly upgraded Mac Pro don't need it.

 

[sirroderick]

Why you are root patching? A properly upgraded Mac Pro don't need it.

That's what this guy did...

Maybe he's a fool.

Do you mean OC should update itself?

So is this a reinstall from scratch again scenario now?

BTW In case the password was corrupted or something I changed it in the terminal. It still doesn't allow login, just takes a lot longer to think about it

 

[tsialex]

That's what this guy did...

Maybe he's a fool.

Do you mean OC should update itself?

So is this a reinstall from scratch again scenario now?

BTW In case the password was corrupted or something I changed it in the terminal. It still doesn't allow login, just takes a lot longer to think about it

Root patching is only needed if you have obsolete/hardware that was removed support, like NVIDIA GPUs or the Mac Pro factory AirPort Extreme, and not needed with a fully upgraded Mac Pro (with a still supported GPU + modern AirPort Extreme).

Btw, Monterey is still a mess even with a fully supported Mac, while Big Sur is stable like a rock with a fully upgraded Mac Pro.

 

[sirroderick]

All very interesting tsialex but not very helpful in my case. Would have been much more valuable before I spent 3 arduous days on one of my other Mac Pros reinstalling and reauthorising my studio software (100s of plugs etc). I guess I'm stuck with 12.4 and OC 0.47 on that one. Fortunately this particular machine that's now toast has had less installation work done on it so would probably make sense to to redo with Big Sur.

I still have no idea of the correct way to keep Open Core up to date. Are you saying we have to just pick a version and stick to it?

 

[tsialex]

All very interesting tsialex but not very helpful in my case. Would have been much more valuable before I spent 3 arduous days on one of my other Mac Pros reinstalling and reauthorising my studio software (100s of plugs etc).

Price of learning.

I guess I'm stuck with 12.4 and OC 0.47 on that one. Fortunately this particular machine that's now toast has had less installation work done on it so would probably make sense to to redo with Big Sur.

I still have no idea of the correct way to keep Open Core up to date. Are you saying we have to just pick a version and stick to it?

If you are going pure OpenCore and following the cdf stickie OpenCore with Mac Pro stickie thread, updates are released monthly, usually first Monday of the month, when OpenCore devs release the new monthly versions. Follow the stickie thread first post maintenance instructions.

If you are using OCLP, stick to it and just update when new versions are released by the Dortania devs on GitHub. OCLP don't follow the OpenCore release schedule. OCLP is fairly stable at the moment, with minor updates from time to time. This will change when Ventura is released, but Ventura won't work with a MacPro5,1 or MacPro6,1 anyway.