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Help requested: mobile me to iCloud forced move?

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I just got an EM from Apple saying I have to move from MobileMe to iCloud. As I read it, iCloud REQUIRES Lion and iOS 5.

I am running snow leopard because I still use the evil Intuit's Quicken 2007, which doesn't run on Lion. I've looked for better home finance software, but it's all garbage, so I hadn't made a move.

In this switch, will I loose my Mobile Me Gallery and e-mail (the only two things I really use)? Do I have any hope to stay on SnowLeopard and move to iCloud? What are my options here?

Thanks for any help, though I think the answer is "too bad for me."
 
I'm not sure about using iCloud on Snow Leopard, but if the only reason you're holding onto SL is so you can use Quicken 2007 then I'd suggest taking a look at a demo of iBank. I'm a former Quicken user (on PC) and thought Quicken Essentials stunk the room up, so I had to go out and find an alternative. I started with Quickbooks when I got my first Mac back in early 2010, but that got to be too clunky and I wanted something with some iOS compatibility and iBank fit the bill perfectly.

Pretty good piece of software that I would recommend to anyone.
 
ugahairydawgs said:
I'm not sure about using iCloud on Snow Leopard, but if the only reason you're holding onto SL is so you can use Quicken 2007 then I'd suggest taking a look at a demo of iBank. I'm a former Quicken user (on PC) and thought Quicken Essentials stunk the room up, so I had to go out and find an alternative. I started with Quickbooks when I got my first Mac back in early 2010, but that got to be too clunky and I wanted something with some iOS compatibility and iBank fit the bill perfectly.

Pretty good piece of software that I would recommend to anyone.
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Thanks. I've tried them all. I don't get along with any of them, so I've just been sitting on Q2007.
 
In June when MobileMe is shut down, you will lose access to the Gallery and iDisk (if you are using it). If you switch to iCloud before this, you will continue to be able to use both Gallery and iDisk until June.

If you have not switched to iCloud, your mobileMe email will probably be shut down in June. However, you can switch to iCloud and keep the same MobileMe email address.
 
AlanShutko said:
In June when MobileMe is shut down, you will lose access to the Gallery and iDisk (if you are using it). If you switch to iCloud before this, you will continue to be able to use both Gallery and iDisk until June.

If you have not switched to iCloud, your mobileMe email will probably be shut down in June. However, you can switch to iCloud and keep the same MobileMe email address.
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Thanks!

If all I care about are the Gallery and e-mail (I don't care about synching right now), do I have to move to Lion, or can I access e-mail from my iPhone and web-based interface from my Mac? Can I upload to Gallery from iPhoto? That might buy me more time on SL for now.
 
My understanding is that you need to perform the actual switch on a Lion machine. (But you could sign in from a friend's machine, if you want.) Once you do, you'll be able to access email via SL (it's just imap like mobile me, with different servers maybe). You'll still be able to upload photos via iPhoto to Gallery, but as mentioned, the gallery will go away completely in June. After that time, you will not be able to upload things even with Lion.
 
You don't need Lion to convert your MobileMe to iCloud. You also don't actually need it to use iCloud. For mail, contacts, and calendars you can just use the web based versions at iCloud.com. However the native Lion apps are nicer. If you want to access iWork documents stored in iCloud I believe that requires Lion though.

The actual conversion takes place on a website. You just need to make sure at least one computer or iDevice has a fully up to date copy of your MobileMe data before making the conversion so that when you turn on iCloud for that device you can merge all the data into iCloud. Then the other devices can be set up by just turning on iCloud.
 
Thanks! I did the conversion yesterday without running Lion on my Mac. My iPhone and iPad are syncing, as is Mail on my Snow Leopard Mac. It's pretty much all I need for now, until I'm ready to move to Lion (or the next release)

Thanks all!
 
HELP! With iDisk gone, how can I share files with clients?

I used iDisk for sharing (mostly .pdf) files with clients. It seems the new iCloud doesn't allow storage of .pdf files. And DropBox and the other online file storage services require a tedious third party sign-up. I don't want to ask hundreds of clients to join some new service, I just want them to see my files.

Any suggestions? I know I'm not alone as I've seen others ask about this, but I haven't seen a reply. The end of iDisk June 30, 2012 is looming large for me, when all my clients will be left in the dark.

Please help! Thanks!
 
JoeSherer said:
I used iDisk for sharing (mostly .pdf) files with clients. It seems the new iCloud doesn't allow storage of .pdf files. And DropBox and the other online file storage services require a tedious third party sign-up. I don't want to ask hundreds of clients to join some new service, I just want them to see my files.

Any suggestions? I know I'm not alone as I've seen others ask about this, but I haven't seen a reply. The end of iDisk June 30, 2012 is looming large for me, when all my clients will be left in the dark.

Please help! Thanks!
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Based on what is sounds like you need I think Dropbox will work. There is a public access folder in Dropbox that will not require anyone on the other end to signup for the service. You just load the file/files up in the public folder and e-mail the link to download the file.
 
Thanks! It works perfectly!

ugahairydawgs said:
Based on what is sounds like you need I think Dropbox will work. There is a public access folder in Dropbox that will not require anyone on the other end to signup for the service. You just load the file/files up in the public folder and e-mail the link to download the file.
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Great suggestion. I hope the others that need to share files find this too. Too bad Apple can't keep a feature like this in iCloud, but I'm thrilled to have a working solution. Thanks so much 'dawg.
 
bking1000 said:
I just got an EM from Apple saying I have to move from MobileMe to iCloud. As I read it, iCloud REQUIRES Lion and iOS 5.

I am running snow leopard because I still use the evil Intuit's Quicken 2007, which doesn't run on Lion. I've looked for better home finance software, but it's all garbage, so I hadn't made a move.

In this switch, will I loose my Mobile Me Gallery and e-mail (the only two things I really use)? Do I have any hope to stay on SnowLeopard and move to iCloud? What are my options here?

Thanks for any help, though I think the answer is "too bad for me."
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Same here. Holding out for the Q07 fix for Lion, then upgrade to Lion and transition MM to iCloud. Hopefully out soon before MM goes away.

Dear Quicken Mac Customer:

As a fellow Mac fan and customer, I wanted to personally introduce myself, and share some highlights of our Apple-related efforts with you.

I recently became General Manager of the Personal Finance Group at Intuit, responsible for Quicken and Mint.com. Intuit's 25 years of leadership in personal financial management software makes me excited to lead this team and I am committed to creating products to help you reach your financial goals.

I recognize, however, that we have not always delivered on this promise to Quicken Mac customers.

As you may know, Quicken for Mac 2007 does not currently work on Apple's latest operating system, Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion). I understand the frustration this may have caused you and have put a team in place to address this issue. I am happy to announce that we will have a solution that makes Quicken 2007 for Mac "Lion-compatible" by early spring. There are still details to be worked out, so I ask your continued patience as we work through these. In the meantime, you can find more information on our Mac FAQ page.

Working toward a Quicken for Mac 2007 solution is just a first step in winning back your confidence.

We are expanding our development team to continue our renewed focus on personal finance solutions that suit the needs of our Mac customers. As we develop solutions, we'll be looking to you and the rest of our Mac customers for ideas and feedback.

I understand we have a way to go, but I wanted to start by communicating our commitment to Mac and look forward to sharing the details with you as they emerge.

Thank you for your continued loyalty to Quicken.

Sincerely,

Aaron Forth
General Manager, Intuit Personal Finance Group
 
Is this a legit e-mail? I was about to commit to QEssentials, but if they are going to get 2007 running on Lion, I'll stay on that. Of course, Quicken has promised this kind of thing before and not delivered. Back in 2008/9 they were making all kinds of statements and promises, and none of it came true (unless you think QE and mint.com are answers to users demands).
 
That email has been around since right after Lion came out. I wouldn't hold my breath on that Q2007 update.
 
Did you notice that as of 3/8/2012 it appears there is a Quicken fix for Lion or am I reading this wrong?
 
Why not simply abandon both MobileMe and iCloud?

ugahairydawgs said:
Based on what is sounds like you need I think Dropbox will work. There is a public access folder in Dropbox that will not require anyone on the other end to signup for the service. You just load the file/files up in the public folder and e-mail the link to download the file.
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First, if you know of a place where there is good discussion (or an extended essay) about my question, please send me to it. I will be grateful.
Second, this provocative question is coming from a true Mac lover, who has been buying Apple computers all the way back to the Apple 2. In the darkest days, I stayed with Apple, and I still have several Macs and will continue pushing family and friends into Macs.
Here's my bottom-line issue. I have serious "professional" investment in software and related data files that will not run under Lion. At the minimum I need many months to be in a position to abandon backward compatibility in favour of Lion, iCloud, etc.
It seems a lot cheaper (taking time cost and "pain" into account) to migrate all my important MobileMe services (esp. iDisk) to non-Apple support sources, and just forget about iCloud. I am definitely not into sync'ing photos, calendars, email, etc across multiple computers.
So here's my $64,000 question. What am I losing that is so important to not lose if just kick over this Apple service 100% -- i.e., develop viable substitutes for ALL my MobileMe services before it is closed down?
 
It depends on what features of MobileMe that you currently use that you'd want to move over. If it is just iDisk then it would be a pretty simple move to a service like Dropbox.
 
ugahairydawgs said:
It depends on what features of MobileMe that you currently use that you'd want to move over. If it is just iDisk then it would be a pretty simple move to a service like Dropbox.
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Thank you for your prompt and helpful response. I just read an effective and very recent pro-ICloud presentation at http://www.trainsignal.com/blog/what-icloud-means-for-apple-users , and it was written by an IT person who seems to work in both the PC and Mac worlds. Your comment and what I have learned there suggest the following route for me to follow. I lay it out in some detail in case it might be helpful to others in situations similar to mine as regards their inability to simply jump on the latest Apple developments and disregard their investments in "old" environments.

Considering that iCloud seems to target primarily iOS users, I plan to go ahead and open an iCloud account from my iPad. But first, I will migrate all of my e-mail service OFF MobileMe (into some non-Apple service) in case the iCloud software threatens to cause a lot of "pain" with what I've accumulated under my MobileMe email service along with Mail on the Mac. (Rather than try to deal with the "pain", I will simply ignore what is happening with my MobileMe mail and/or Mail.)

Since the i-disk service is dead anyway, as of June, I will promptly investigate substitutes starting with DropBox, as you suggest. This means that on my Macs, I will basically pay no attention to iCloud; but on my 2 iOS devices I will let iCloud "do its thing", and reap the impressive advantages outlined at the link above.

Bottom line -- I will stop using Apple for e-mail service and for putting my business files at Internet locations where I can send others to get them, or where I simply want to have access to them from anywhere in the world.

Cheers, and thanks again dawgs.
 
theordore said:
Bottom line -- I will stop using Apple for e-mail service and for putting my business files at Internet locations where I can send others to get them, or where I simply want to have access to them from anywhere in the world.
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I'm with you 100%. I too have been a very loyal Apple user for a long time. It really does seem like we are being forced to upgrade, which is in some cased quite costly. For example, I am using CS3 applications and apparently they are not fully supported on Lion. So the $29 apple os update will end up costing me close to $1000. with the 3rd party upgrades.

I have to say, I'm really rubbed the wrong way by the fact that Apple is not supporting even the previous os, much less previous two or three! All of us Apple users have paid through the nose for their wonderful hardware and software, and I for one expected better treatment.

I've looked into shifting my email into a 3rd party email client and am just now trying out Sparrow, which I like ok. It has it's problems though, with mediocre junk filters. As well, I miss the ability to sort by date, name, sender, etc... But at this point, I'm committed to cutting off the ties I have to Apple's syncing features. Beyond the fact that they are obviously creating a wretched predicament for a lot of users, the email was riddled with problems for the last 4 years.

Sorry if I sound a bit bitter. It's just frustrating.
 
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