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fisherking

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this is new in monterey; there's no preference setting (& nothing i see in system preferences>screentime) to hide apple music in the music app.

i don't use it (am on spotify), and so, no reason for it to be there. is there a way to hide it? (outside of masking tape at that spot on my screen)...?
 

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this is new in monterey; there's no preference setting (& nothing i see in system preferences>screentime) to hide apple music in the music app.

i don't use it (am on spotify), and so, no reason for it to be there. is there a way to hide it? (outside of masking tape at that spot on my screen)...?
Exactly my issue. Any progress?
 

fisherking

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no matter what we want, apple wants to own us, and makes it harder, all the time, to shut out the things we don't want.

i love my macs, my iphone. i love the OSes. but i hate that we have little or no control over many things. i had an android tablet briefly, just to check out the OS. customizing it was most of the fun; otherwise the OS didn't do it for me. and i miss my jailbreaking days, when my iphone was mine.

it is, indeed, a walled garden. so, no... no solution (yet) to hiding apple music in the music app.
 
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it is, indeed, a walled garden. so, no... no solution (yet) to hiding apple music in the music app.

You didn't mention this in your original post, but did you go into Preferences in the Music app and go to the "Restriction" section in there? The below screenshot is from Big Sur, but that is where the Apple Music preferences existed before, not in the Screen Time in System Preferences.


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fisherking

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You didn't mention this in your original post, but did you go into Preferences in the Music app and go to the "Restriction" section in there? The below screenshot is from Big Sur, but that is where the Apple Music preferences existed before, not in the Screen Time in System Preferences.


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yeah, and that's the whole point; that section is no longer there in monterey. so it goes. (i keep hoping it will return before the final release)...
 

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yeah, and that's the whole point; that section is no longer there in monterey. so it goes. (i keep hoping it will return before the final release)...
Ah, I see. I really do hope that returns then because pushing your own services with such a heavy hand is in really poor taste in my opinion.

You mentioned Spotify. I believe the Spotify app has some limited functionality for local file playback if you decide to squeeze out the Music app altogether.
 

fisherking

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Ah, I see. I really do hope that returns then because pushing your own services with such a heavy hand is in really poor taste in my opinion.

You mentioned Spotify. I believe the Spotify app has some limited functionality for local file playback if you decide to squeeze out the Music app altogether.
my library, up to a point is all in apple music. after that (maybe 2018) life here takes place on spotify. and am happy to keep them separate. the applemusic thing isn't painful, but it isn't reasonable either.

thanks!
 

Mr. 123

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This is disappointing. I recently had the same issue with the Music app on Apple TV. I wanted to hide all Apple Music related things (I’m a match user) but it’s impossible. Too bad that macOS is going the same way.
 

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This is disappointing. I recently had the same issue with the Music app on Apple TV. I wanted to hide all Apple Music related things (I’m a match user) but it’s impossible. Too bad that macOS is going the same way.
i'm giving them up to the final OS release; a preference to hide applemusic. or i want my money back... 🤪
 
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mikzn

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my library, up to a point is all in apple music. after that (maybe 2018) life here takes place on spotify. and am happy to keep them separate. the apple music thing isn't painful, but it isn't reasonable either.
thanks!

I wish they would have split the app into 2 separate apps 1) iTunes for purchased / local / legacy music player and 2) a separate "Spotify" type app for playing streamed Music and monthly subscriptions

Calling the app "Music" is a very confusing "Marketing" strategy - they should have called it anything but generically Music

I left the Music (Streaming) side of apple music @ Catalina - Like your OP I wish I could hide that in Monterey - Switched to Spotify and no regrets - Spotify has better selection and it's nice to keep the streaming subscription music separate from my 20 year plus "purchased Music" that was in iTunes

You mentioned Spotify. I believe the Spotify app has some limited functionality for local file playback if you decide to squeeze out the Music app altogether.

With the paid version of Spotify you can download the files for playing locally and when disconnected from the internet
 

fisherking

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i live on spotify, but have a lot of (previously purchased or imported) music in the music app, which i am fine using. it's just incomprehensible to me that apple won't let us hide applemusic; but honestly, it's not life & death. when i play music, i have 'smashtunes' giving me artist/title in the menubar; i never spend time staring at the music app window.

so it goes.
 
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i live on spotify, but have a lot of (previously purchased or imported) music in the music app, which i am fine using. it's just incomprehensible to me that apple won't let us hide applemusic; but honestly, it's not life & death. when i play music, i have 'smashtunes' giving me artist/title in the menubar; i never spend time staring at the music app window.

so it goes.

FWIW - I added this issue to the "Missing Features" - in the Monterey sticky thread
 
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FWIW, on the iOS Public Betas, if you disable "Show Apple Music" in Settings, it comes back every time the app is relaunched. I think (and dearly, dearly HOPE) that the attitude is "you have to have it if you're supposedly testing out the Public Betas", meaning I expect them to both correct that behaviour in iOS come the GM/final release and add back the ability to hide Apple Music from Music.app on macOS once the final version ships (kind of like they'll add Universal Control into the final release. Amazing that they developed that in a way that obviates the need for testing, eh guys?)

I hope I hope I hope.
 

fisherking

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FWIW, on the iOS Public Betas, if you disable "Show Apple Music" in Settings, it comes back every time the app is relaunched. I think (and dearly, dearly HOPE) that the attitude is "you have to have it if you're supposedly testing out the Public Betas", meaning I expect them to both correct that behaviour in iOS come the GM/final release and add back the ability to hide Apple Music from Music.app on macOS once the final version ships (kind of like they'll add Universal Control into the final release. Amazing that they developed that in a way that obviates the need for testing, eh guys?)

I hope I hope I hope.
hmm. i've always had apple music hidden on my iphone, and it's never re-appeared; one of the reasons i'd expect to be able to do the same on the mac.

not sure why doesn't stay hidden on your phone...
 

SketchyClown

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Just discovered this on Monterey 12.0.1 Final. No way to hide Apple Music now at all. 🤬🤬🤬 Tried to get rid of it in Screen Time, but that's just another can of worms wasting resources that I don't want enabled on here. This one actually makes me mad.
 

Mr. 123

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In the IOS music app you can click hide Apple Music but it always returns after a restart... seems like Apple really want me to subscribe lol
 

fisherking

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this is interesting; i just helped a friend set up her new (M1) macbook pro. copied her Music folder manually to the new mac, and pointed the music app to it, and.... no applemusic. so there must be a way to make this happen for the rest of us...
 

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I was wondering about this - I have Apple Music hidden on my iPhone/iPads but really don't want it showing up on my Mac. Is there really not a workaround for this? It's not a huge deal but I do not want to see a service I'm not using in an app I am using.
 

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this is interesting; i just helped a friend set up her new (M1) macbook pro. copied her Music folder manually to the new mac, and pointed the music app to it, and.... no applemusic. so there must be a way to make this happen for the rest of us...
You might be on to sth. Maybe the setting to hide apple music is still there somewhere inside an xml-file / parameter in the music folder…and apple only got rid of the „frontend“ a.k.a the restrictions tab…this is indeed ridiculous.
 

fisherking

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You might be on to sth. Maybe the setting to hide apple music is still there somewhere inside an xml-file / parameter in the music folder…and apple only got rid of the „frontend“ a.k.a the restrictions tab…this is indeed ridiculous.
altho i resent it greatly that this can't be disabled, have gotten used to ignoring it; i mean, i spend more time listening to music than staring at the music app window. but still... there should be a preference setting (as there used to be).
 

elmacci

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altho i resent it greatly that this can't be disabled, have gotten used to ignoring it; i mean, i spend more time listening to music than staring at the music app window. but still... there should be a preference setting (as there used to be).
i know, first world problem. but i just don't like the direction apple is going with this. Reminds me of the whole "use the smartphone eco system as an ad platform" of android and especially samsung phones...
The thing is: Apple Music does make sense for someone getting fresh into the apple eco system or for the "younger folk" out there who never felt the need to "own" music...But i have over 300 Gigs of finely curated music i gathered over the last 20 years...and i simply don't want to let apple mess with it by throwing music i own together with music i dont own... in one single app. Others might think it is logical to have a "one stop shop"-app for their music, wether its their own (ripped) music or coming out of apples streaming catalogue. I want to be able to distinguish them. And currently i do so by using the music app for my own music and TIDAL for the streaming experience...

Using Apple music for your own AND streamed music is like having a library full of books and not knowing which book you actually own and which one you don't. That just doenst feel right, at least to me. And yes, I know that speaking in a "book library metaphor" is not really helping my case and kinda makes me look like a grandpa who only talks about the "good ole times" :-D :-D ah, well...
 

fisherking

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i know, first world problem. but i just don't like the direction apple is going with this. Reminds me of the whole "use the smartphone eco system as an ad platform" of android and especially samsung phones...
The thing is: Apple Music does make sense for someone getting fresh into the apple eco system or for the "younger folk" out there who never felt the need to "own" music...But i have over 300 Gigs of finely curated music i gathered over the last 20 years...and i simply don't want to let apple mess with it by throwing music i own together with music i dont own... in one single app. Others might think it is logical to have a "one stop shop"-app for their music, wether its their own (ripped) music or coming out of apples streaming catalogue. I want to be able to distinguish them. And currently i do so by using the music app for my own music and TIDAL for the streaming experience...

Using Apple music for your own AND streamed music is like having a library full of books and not knowing which book you actually own and which one you don't. That just doenst feel right, at least to me. And yes, I know that speaking in a "book library metaphor" is not really helping my case and kinda makes me look like a grandpa who only talks about the "good ole times" :-D :-D ah, well...
streaming applemusic is separate from your library, you're not downloading anything. so you can just ignore it.
 

elmacci

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streaming applemusic is separate from your library, you're not downloading anything. so you can just ignore it.
I once tried Apple Music (albeit, tbh, 3 or 4 years ago i think) and it started matching all of my existing music with their streaming catalogue - with quite a few mismatches. Usability was a miss.
I just dont want to end up having to sort out which song variant is the correct one. Being an experience i made a few years back, maybe I'll just try it with my second apple id and a small music library to see for myself if there really has been progress ;)

Serious question: What about Playlists? What about the frontend? Is the streaming song variant distinguishable from the owned song variant? (e.g. a special icon shown or s.th.?)
When searching for a particular song, will apple music show me the song in my library (which might be a bootleg or some special live recording) AND the one in the streaming catalogue (which is probably not the variant i want ;-) )?When creating a playlist consisting of owned and non owned songs - am i able to say which one is which within the app?
Can I search my library and let it show only my owned music?
Etc. etc.

If so, i definetely will consider switching from tidal to apple music.
But if not...meh. ;)

Btw: https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/21/apple-music-mac-app/

But reading the comments under this article i realized that i am only one of the few who is bothered by this...
 

fisherking

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I once tried Apple Music (albeit, tbh, 3 or 4 years ago i think) and it started matching all of my existing music with their streaming catalogue - with quite a few mismatches. Usability was a miss.
I just dont want to end up having to sort out which song variant is the correct one. Being an experience i made a few years back, maybe I'll just try it with my second apple id and a small music library to see for myself if there really has been progress ;)

Serious question: What about Playlists? What about the frontend? Is the streaming song variant distinguishable from the owned song variant? (e.g. a special icon shown or s.th.?)
When searching for a particular song, will apple music show me the song in my library (which might be a bootleg or some special live recording) AND the one in the streaming catalogue (which is probably not the variant i want ;-) )?When creating a playlist consisting of owned and non owned songs - am i able to say which one is which within the app?
Can I search my library and let it show only my owned music?
Etc. etc.

If so, i definetely will consider switching from tidal to apple music.
But if not...meh. ;)

Btw: https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/21/apple-music-mac-app/

But reading the comments under this article i realized that i am only one of the few who is bothered by this...
i understand your concerns; i don't use applemusic (am married to spotify), so can't confirm anything. but i have friends who have on-their mac libraries, and now also use applemusic, and they seem no more confused than they were a few years ago... 🤪
 
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