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Other How many esims can the iPhone 14 have?
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"You can install eight or more eSIMs on an iPhone and use two phone numbers at the same time."
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About eSIM on iPhone - Apple Support
Learn what an eSIM is, how to set up an eSIM on your iPhone, and how to transfer a physical SIM to an eSIM.
"You can install eight or more eSIMs on an iPhone and use two phone numbers at the same time."
About eSIM on iPhone - Apple Support
Learn what an eSIM is, how to set up an eSIM on your iPhone, and how to transfer a physical SIM to an eSIM.
Do you know if the esim will come unlocked to use on any carrier no matter where it’s purchased? Thanks
Buying through Apple, the phone will be unlocked unless financing through installments on AT&T.
If you buy from a carrier store or third party (e.g. Best Buy), the phone will be locked to the first carrier it is activated on.
Verizon automatically unlocks phones after 60 days. The other carriers will unlock your phone if you contact them to do so (or do it online) once the phone has been active a minimum amount of time (usually 50-60 days, depending on carrier) and you do not owe the carrier money for the phone (installments paid off or bought outright).
i would imagine both. otherwise what is the point of a carrier lock?
Correct. When a phone is locked to a carrier, you can only use the phone with that carrier. You can have multiple lines on that carrier though, although the use case for that would be limited, I assume.
Fair enough, so the double locked phones can’t for example be used when travelling? Somewhat defeats the object of a dual SIM. I could ask what is the point of carrier lock anyway ? ….. if you owe money for buying a phone you owe it whether you use the carrier or not. (I know thats another topic 😄) I guess it depends what country you live in and how rigorously they enforce debt.
The phone is not “double locked”. It’s either locked or unlocked.
And in the US at least, carriers have been locking phones purchased through them for a long time. Originally, it was because phones were sold at a deep discount (or even free) in exchange for the customer signing a contract to keep service with that carrier for a certain amount of time (usually 2 years).
Those kinds of contracts are gone now and replaced with carrier financing, in which case a carrier lock is an attempt to reduce fraud, where someone attempts to finance expensive phones on an account in order to resell them, with no intention of paying for the phones.
The reason Verizon automatically unlocks phones after 60 days and does not require the phone to be paid off first is because of an agreement they made in order to make a spectrum purchase a number of years ago. They stopped locking phones altogether for a while, but started locking them temporarily a couple years ago due to fraud.
Edit: Some carriers used to allow the phone to be unlocked for international purposes while remaining locked domestically. Not all carriers allowed that, and I’m not sure if any of the ones who did still do or not.
Nope. The whole phone was either locked or unlocked. There’s no in between (with the exception of that international unlock thing I mentioned that may not be a thing anymore).
Thanks…. Interesting…. When I say double locked I meant both sims being locked.
Pre dual SIM this was common to lock phones in the UK.
Where I live now if you buy from a carrier you get an unlocked phone but the repayments for the phone are linked to you personally by various means, it doesn’t prevent fraud but drastically reduces it.
I used to sell phones, and people would try (and sometimes succeed) to buy phones with someone else’s account, or open an account in someone else’s name (i.e., identity theft). It’s impossible to prevent 100%, but along with locking phones, account PINs (which were not always a thing), checking IDs (with that black light thing), and looking out for unusual behavior are used to try to reduce it.
As I say depends on the country and obviously differs. Here anything to do with your phone is linked to your National ID card and biometrics …. Even if you want to change plan or similar.
I was worried about this when I did the Apple Upgrade Plan on my 14 Pro that I got last week. I use 2 ESIMs (Verizon/Mint). I didn't really want to shell out $ out of pocket and I wanted to go back to upgrading with my wife every year or every other year - so I did the Citizens One Apple Upgrade Plan. It required me to put in my Verizon account information.
But the phone was unlocked. I was able to add Mint Mobile eSIM no problem.
Just a comment: The Apple Upgrade Plan phones are unlocked.
But the phone was unlocked. I was able to add Mint Mobile eSIM no problem.
Just a comment: The Apple Upgrade Plan phones are unlocked.
I found that once on some pages. You can have multiple eSims installed (don't know the exact number, 10 maybe? this is a pure conspiracy) but you can activate only two of them at the same time. (I currently have installed 2 and both are active) (i Have iPhone 13 pro)
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How do you like Mint Mobile? Been curious how it compares to Verizon..I was worried about this when I did the Apple Upgrade Plan on my 14 Pro that I got last week. I use 2 ESIMs (Verizon/Mint). I didn't really want to shell out $ out of pocket and I wanted to go back to upgrading with my wife every year or every other year - so I did the Citizens One Apple Upgrade Plan. It required me to put in my Verizon account information.
But the phone was unlocked. I was able to add Mint Mobile eSIM no problem.
Just a comment: The Apple Upgrade Plan phones are unlocked.
I've had it for almost 6 months now. I don't use it as my primary data / call cellular service but I've used it. Most of my usage applies to Southern California and a few other states (Texas/etc).
Most of the time they have identical reception. There's a few places where T-Mobile will have max and Verizon will have none, and other places where Verizon will have Max and T-Mobile none. But more times than not, they're pretty identical. Verizon does have stronger overall reception.
I've experienced de-prioritization once at the mall where I had no data for a few mins despite having max reception. Also to be as impartial as I can - Verizon has better reception in more places. Verizon has a lot more hotspot data. Also note, Mint does not do Apple Watch cellular plans yet.
I really like the Ryan Reynolds Christmas cards and Youtube commercials.
However, with Verizon Wireless work discount and 5 people on a family plan - it's very close to Mint prices. But if you're just you, or you and your significant other - Mint makes a lot of sense. Find a Mint customer to refer you - you'll both get $. I would definitely do Mint for my primary if it was just me and my wife. Definitely try it out first with an e-sim before transferring.
I give Mint thumbs up. I love paying once for the entire year. Huge + for me.
E-Sim comments: My 13PM and now my 14P handle dual e-sims perfectly. You can have them backup each other too. So if I'm in a place with low Verizon reception, it'll use my Mint data, and other way around. I can get iMessages/texts from my Verizon # while using my Mint data, and other way around.
I've been on Verizon for over 15 years and haven't had a reason to leave. Mint Mobile has always made me curious and I am the only one on the plan so what your describing sounds enticing.. Just not sure I want to fix something that isn't broke..
Same I've been on Verizon since ... 05? 07? I can't remember. lol. Wow long time.
That's my opinion. That and work discount+5 family plan it's almost the same price. Like you, I was very very curious so I figured I'd buy a year and see how it is. I tried using the other # for work but ... everyone already has my primary number so that didn't work lol.
I don't think it is worth $240 a year when I already got Verizon. But it was nice to actually use it vs read other people's reviews. lol
$240 a year! I'm paying around $70 a month! What kind of a plan is it?
I did their 10GB/mo plan for 1 year at a year pricing:
https://www.mintmobile.com/plans/ - make sure to scroll down on any plan you choose to see: "What happens after 3 months"
My Verizon Wireless with employee discount and 5+ members is about $44.43/mo for unlimited. Mint Mobile's unlimited is about $30/mo.
The only real negative I’ve heard about Mint is that once the sign-up promotion ends, 3/6/12, its very hard to keep that pricing going forward without ending, transferring and then maybe switching back some months later. Can anyone speak to being able to keep some of these very decent pricing packages past a 12 month mark?