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How Many Personal Assistants Do You Use/Want To Use?

  • None - I'm not presently interested

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • One - I like to keep it simple

    Votes: 7 38.9%
  • Two - I mix it up a little

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • Three or More - It's Downton Abbey up in here

    Votes: 3 16.7%

  • Total voters
    18

jeremiah256

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This is an interest of mine since I want to get more into the Internet of Things (IoT) and want to start off with home and personal automation. I'm no expert on any of the assistants, and hopefully, this thread will provide myself and others who are interested, a way to expand our knowledge.

At present, I personally use Siri and Google Assistant quite a bit. Siri is my on-the-go hands free assistant for sending messages, getting information and directions, and to activate certain apps, such as music. I'm looking forward to using my basic Workflow skills into playing with the new Shortcuts functionality in iOS 12.

At home, I use Google Assistant the most. I have a Google Home Mini and the app on my phone. I use Google Assistant, combined with two Chromecasts, for getting information, simple tasks and entertainment. Using voice only, I can access a good portion of my media and use the basic routines the Home Mini provides for when you wake up, come home, and go to bed.

I presently don't have much of a use case for Cortana or Alexa, but as Amazon almost gives away extremely cheap Alexa devices, and I have Amazon Prime, I can see myself putting one in the kitchen and using it as a cooking/shopping assistant.

Cortana is a more difficult assistant to integrate. I do use Microsoft Office as my main productivity suite, but using Cortana at work would be awkward, and I don't understand the functionality enough to use it in my home office.

That said, it seems most people have an issue with mixing personal assistants and I wonder if I'm missing something. In the end, I'm looking at creating something like this:

Google (Assistant)- Majordomo: Main AI for exploring and interacting with the world
Apple (Siri) - Valet: Knows your personal wants and needs
Amazon (Alexa) - Butler: Purchasing and domestic (IoT) assistant
Microsoft (Cortana) - Secretary: Business/work assistant

Have I gone mad and on the path to failure and tears of disappointment?
 

Hater

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I find all of them frustrating. Cortana and Siri get disabled as soon as I jump on a Windows/MacOS device as they chew up valuable system resources (and my work computer doesn't have a mic anyway)

I have never used Google Assistant or Alexa, nor do I plan to.
 
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jeremiah256

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I find all of them frustrating. Cortana and Siri get disabled as soon as I jump on a Windows/MacOS device as they chew up valuable system resources (and my work computer doesn't have a mic anyway)

I have never used Google Assistant or Alexa, nor do I plan to.
Your icon says you're from Scotland and I've heard Siri (don't know about the other assistants) seems to have a hard time with understanding English language accents, Scottish and Irish especially. Is this why they are frustrating?
 

Scepticalscribe

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Jul 29, 2008
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It's annoying because the Siri stuff comes up when I don't want it to if it's not disabled.

I've never really used it because... I don't see the point. I just don't use my phone in that way.

Neither do I.

And a disembodied voice (which is not human) giving advice, instructions or commands drives me nuts.

Personally, I prefer written instructions, or live human beings offering advice.
 

Matz

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Apr 25, 2015
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I rarely use Siri. Mostly because I forget it's there.

But when I do, it's typically on my AW, such as setting a timer for the French press, or giving me directions home when traffic may affect choice of route. I find it easier than hauling the phone out.
 

Lioness~

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None of those. Nor do I have any interest of any of them.
Tried briefly with Siri, but it is like training a dog ;)

I was more thinking assistants that actually do something real for me.
We’ll see in the perfect future.
 
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jeremiah256

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None of those. Nor do I have any interest of any of them.
Tried briefly with Siri, but it is like training a dog ;)

I was more thinking assistants that actually do something real for me.
We’ll see in the perfect future.
And your phrase, "...do something real for me." may highlight the serious problem with how digital assistants have been presented to the public.

Most demos I've seen online are very simple and give the impression that assistants are used for very minor duties or duties that can be just as easily done with a remote control. And while those uses are valid, I think it skews the purpose of what assistants can be used for toward the frivolous end of the spectrum.

While I'm interested in these services, I'm also interested in capabilities that Cortana, for example, is getting, allowing it to be used exactly like you would a secretary or executive assistance. Moving files via voice command. Reserving meeting rooms. Answering emails.

I've noted, however, from the feedback (thanks all), it seems voice is not a command and control method most are comfortable using.
 

jeremiah256

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Maybe it's just me, but with multiple assistants, with different strengths and weaknesses, it helps if I look at the device in order to give the right command to the right assistant. For instance, in the kitchen, both Alexa and Google Assistant have traditionally been the better assistant since Siri cannot set multiple timers. Yet, I'm usually watching media on an Apple device, so I accidentally go to Siri first.

I live in Japan, and the assistant shown in video below is tailored toward a unique requirement and subculture, but I do think that if assistants had a more 'human' presentation, it would alleviate some of the resistance to 'talking into the ether' that some people have with them.

 

Shanghaichica

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Maybe it's just me, but with multiple assistants, with different strengths and weaknesses, it helps if I look at the device in order to give the right command to the right assistant. For instance, in the kitchen, both Alexa and Google Assistant have traditionally been the better assistant since Siri cannot set multiple timers. Yet, I'm usually watching media on an Apple device, so I accidentally go to Siri first.

I live in Japan, and the assistant shown in video below is tailored toward a unique requirement and subculture, but I do think that if assistants had a more 'human' presentation, it would alleviate some of the resistance to 'talking into the ether' that some people have with them.

Siri can do multiple timers now!

I have one of my echos in the kitchen, one in the dining room. In my living room I have 2 HomePods in a stereo pair and a google home mini.

I agree that they all have their strengths and weaknesses and I usually use each one according to what it’s best at.
 
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jeremiah256

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Siri can do multiple timers now!

I have one of my echos in the kitchen, one in the dining room. In my living room I have 2 HomePods in a stereo pair and a google home mini.

I agree that they all have their strengths and weaknesses and I usually use each one according to what it’s best at.
Thanks on updating me about Siri.

And your setup seems to mirror what I'm building and others have built (including, I presume, @Bazooka-joe), where Amazon Echos seem strongest in the kitchen and dining room, where users can take advantage of Amazon's shopping services, while HomePods and Google Home products seem to dominate the living areas.

I'm probably going with the Google Home Max over the HomePods since I want the sound from our DVR and XBox to be via a speaker system.
 
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