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k995

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As my old macbook pro 2013 is getting at the ends of its life, looking for a replacement.

I really like the power in my mac mini M1 but seeing that apple has had some serious issues with its macbooks: how reliable are these new arm models ?

Anyway who has been using them from the start: how are these holding up?
 
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3Rock

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They came out just about a month ago so no one has any idea of the reliability of these. However, I've had mine a short time and everything seems to be OK.
 

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AlumaMac

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Many people, including myself, have issues with the trackpad not recognizing taps and pinch to zoom fails regularly. This seems to be a software issue vs hardware, but Apple doesn’t seem interested in fixing it since its been an issue since at least Monterey.
 

k995

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They came out just about a month ago so no one has any idea of the reliability of these. However, I've had mine a short time and everything seems to be OK.
I was referring to all of them, I think the first came out late 2020? Thats 2.5 years ago.
 
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dmccloud

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As my old macbook pro 2013 is getting at the ends of its life, looking for a replacement.

I really like the power in my mac mini M1 but seeing that apple has had some serious issues with its macbooks: how reliable are these new arm models ?

Anyway who has been using them from the start: how are these holding up?

I just switched from a 13" M1 Pro to a 14" M2 Max Pro - mainly because my workflows were starting to stretch the M1 and its 8GB of RAM to its limit. But from a reliability standpoint, even that machine was rock solid, to the point where I gave it to my mom to replace an old intel Mac Mini from 2012-14 range. Most of the issues I encountered with that were software related (i.e., third party devs being slow to update and/or support Apple Silicon) rather than anything on Apple's end, whether hardware or software related.
 

appltech

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No major problems so far, BUT be very, very carefully with the screen, especially where surrounding temps could vary, close the screen/lid properly, do not push, be cautious while cleaning and beware putting it into clogged bag (display can be squeezed out from the internal)
 

RokinAmerica

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Apple has a very generous return policy so check out for yourself. If not happy, return. I do not have any recent Apple products (12 PM iPhone is my latest, but between my maybe 9 or 10 ipods, a couple of everyday iphones (including a still pristine 6 I use daily for work) and multi ipads, I have never had anything Apple fail on me. I am not a fanboy, I use windows pc's daily for work. But I had my first Mac PC in 93. probably had 3 or so after that, and as I said, I have never had any fail on me.
 

tcatsninfan

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As my old macbook pro 2013 is getting at the ends of its life, looking for a replacement.

I really like the power in my mac mini M1 but seeing that apple has had some serious issues with its macbooks: how reliable are these new arm models ?

Anyway who has been using them from the start: how are these holding up?
I'm not sure what kinds of "serious issues" you're referring to with regard to MacBooks. If you're referring to the butterfly keyboard issues, those are gone now and are no longer a problem.

The only repeated issue I've heard about, even in small numbers, is screen cracking. But as people give more info about the problem, it seems to happen a lot because people are putting hard clamshell cases on their MacBooks and that puts too much stress on the lid.

I haven't heard of any widespread issues related to the M-series MacBooks. I have an M2 MacBook Air and it's absolutely amazing, probably the best laptop I've ever owned.
 
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BC-Doc

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Hi, I‘ve owned two MacBook Pros.

My 2009 MBP was a bear and lasted over a decade with one battery upgrade, and some ram and a ssd added along the way. It survived my kids using it and abusing it. Ultimate cause of death on autopsy was a broken display hinge from my youngest opening it too forcefully—at this point, it was so old, repair wasn’t worth the cost.

My most recent purchase was a MBP 14 inch which I purchased in November 2021. It’s a beautiful little laptop which I’ve adored and treated with great care (my kids are now all grown up and have their own computers). It’s left the house twice in its young life and is only fed electricity, never my beverages or my leftover food. Despite being babied, the display on my MBP stopped working, with my laptop
only 14 months old. Diagnosis, display or logic board failure according to the Apple Authorized Repair store pathologist.

Fast forward to a recent phone call with Apple Service— rep tells me my MBP can be resurrected for the princely sum of $1,200. Apple Care? Nope, didn’t have it. Apple has a reputation for selling a high quality, dependable product and the reputation fit with my experience as an Apple user over the past 20 years. In practice, I avoid products that due to low quality require an extended warrant— Apple in the past was never one of those companies but apparently now they are. Apple Service wasn’t willing to budge on the repair fee (I think they should fix it for free as this is a manufacturing hardware defect). I have purchase protection on my credit card which will ultimately make me whole if Apple doesn’t, but this one is on Apple I believe. I sent a letter to the office of Tim Cook asking for a review of my situation and hope to hear back with favourable news from Apple. Barring that, this will be my last Apple purchase as the quality on the purchase of this premium product has disappointed.

Short answer— not reliable in my experience.
 

MrGunny94

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Dec 3, 2016
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The most reliable thus far for me, the only issue I had was with the battery health degradation but I have been doing some heavy usage on my M1 Pro as I use it almost 9h-12h per day from my work to personal life it's my go to computer for everything I do
 

tstafford

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I've had no issues with my M1/2 machines -iMac, MBP14, Studio and M2 MBA. I'd recommend any of them to a friend. Will be repurposing one of the laptops for my kids' to have a dedicated machine. I'd rather keep it than trade it in.
 

xraydoc

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My 14" M1 Pro has been 100% perfect since day one.

And FYI, my wife's 2016 15" MBP core i7 -- with the infamous version 1 butterfly keyboard, no less -- has also been trouble free. Even the keyboard is still operating perfectly.
 

dmccloud

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I'm not sure what kinds of "serious issues" you're referring to with regard to MacBooks. If you're referring to the butterfly keyboard issues, those are gone now and are no longer a problem.

The only repeated issue I've heard about, even in small numbers, is screen cracking. But as people give more info about the problem, it seems to happen a lot because people are putting hard clamshell cases on their MacBooks and that puts too much stress on the lid.

I haven't heard of any widespread issues related to the M-series MacBooks. I have an M2 MacBook Air and it's absolutely amazing, probably the best laptop I've ever owned.

I've used clamshell cases on my Macs going back to the 2021 13" MBP, and I haven't had a single cracked screen in that time. I usually put a skin on my Mac (either from Decal girl or DBrand), and use a clear hardshell case to protect the device itself.
 

DaKKs

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Aug 15, 2012
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They are mostly reliable machines. The only thing you should worry about are the screens, mainly on the Airs. They are a lot weaker than your 2013 tank. And there is no gap between the screen and keyboard, you get crumbs or some **** and close the lid, RIP.

We wanted thin. Apple gave us thin. Now we have to live with thin.
 

AdamBuker

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Mar 1, 2018
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I don't know, man. I gave my macbook pro about $350 last week to get my car detailed and the gas filled. MBP came back, the car looked the same and the gas gauge read lower than when I sent him out with the car. Not reliable AT ALL. That laptop was SHADY AF.
 
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MBAir2010

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I was referring to all of them, I think the first came out late 2020? Thats 2.5 years ago.
I purchased a MacBook Air 2020 M1 which was from a MacBook Air 2010 and MBP'12
they are very reliable!
im using my MBP12 now due to Monterey rebooting and cleaning an older ext hard drive.

but if I need to:
  • Start a new account (hide my email is great!)
  • surf the web- few tabs open
  • handbrake a movie (5 times faster than intel i7)
  • watch a game via laptop or stream to TV
  • listen to music to 2 HomePod minis
  • graphic design via Affinity
  • and other task
I rely on the MBA2020 more than the others.
that MacBook never had a spinning ball and battery last 20 hours plus
great screen and very versatile, and typing is better, as I forget!

probably the best product I have ever purchased

hope this helped!
 

pshufd

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Oct 24, 2013
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I bought the 2021 MBP 16 at launch and use it daily and it has been flawless. The quality is comparable to my 2014 MacBook Pro which is still in daily use, though not by me.
 
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benwiggy

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As my old macbook pro 2013 is getting at the ends of its life, looking for a replacement.

I really like the power in my mac mini M1 but seeing that apple has had some serious issues with its macbooks: how reliable are these new arm models ?

Anyway who has been using them from the start: how are these holding up?
I've had a 16" MBP M1 Pro since they were released. It's absolutely the best Mac laptop I've owned.

Yes, the butterfly keyboard was a design failure, and they're rolled back on that. Most other issues were to do with discrete GPUs and overheating from Intel CPUs. And that's exactly why they've moved to their own chip.
 
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