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gautampw

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I updated MacBook Air (base model, M1) to 11.0.1 today and did a reset. Now I have this 17 GB volume, which disk utility reports as "APFS system snapshot". This is just after a fresh install, and I don't have time machine activated on this MacBook. How do I delete this and get the space back? Apple support said it is Big Sur installation file which I cannot delete.

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chabig

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You can't delete that. That's the computer's operating system. Big Sur lives on a Sealed System Volume (snapshot).



 

chabig

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We assumed you were running Big Sur. Apparently you installed it but then reverted to something earlier.
 

chrfr

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We assumed you were running Big Sur. Apparently you installed it but then reverted to something earlier.
It's an M1 Mac, which can only run Big Sur. I'm a bit confused as to what the OP is describing.
 

gautampw

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We assumed you were running Big Sur. Apparently you installed it but then reverted to something earlier.
It’s m1 Mac. It came with big sun. I never installed anything except 11.0.1 update

edit - I should’ve scrolled down before replying.
 

chrfr

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Should I expect any issues? So far I haven’t had any
How did you delete it? I can't delete that snapshot in Big Sur on a test system, which makes sense since that's what the computer is booted from.
 

gautampw

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How did you delete it? I can't delete that snapshot in Big Sur on a test system, which makes sense since that's what the computer is booted from.
I disabled SIP from recovery, booted back into macOS, dragged the folder from finder to trash and emptied it. Then rebooted back into recovery and enabled SIP.
 

chabig

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I disabled SIP from recovery, booted back into macOS, dragged the folder from finder to trash and emptied it. Then rebooted back into recovery and enabled SIP.
That snapshot was a signed system volume (see links above). You have no doubt messed up your system. I don't know what the consequences will be. You might not notice until the next Big Sur update, but I would recommend you boot to recovery and reinstall Big Sur.

Edit: Maybe you got lucky and deleted a snapshot of the previous 11.0 installation.

 

gautampw

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That snapshot was a signed system volume (see links above). You have no doubt messed up your system. I don't know what the consequences will be. You might not notice until the next Big Sur update, but I would recommend you boot to recovery and reinstall Big Sur.

Edit: Maybe you got lucky and deleted a snapshot of the previous 11.0 installation.

it was definitely previous installation snapshot. I haven't ran into any issues yet. I'll update when 11.1 arrives.
 

chabig

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If the update to 11.1 succeeded, he should have a new sealed system snapshot.
 

MisutaaUrufu

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Response removed as I have learned that as of at least 11.1, behavior of how snapshots has changed for me. I'm not sure if it's supposed to look like that; in previous versions of macOS with APFS snapshots, they would only show when there was more than one (usually before an update process), but that is indeed the system snapshot in Big Sur. Though I'm not sure why it's using "com.apple.os.update" as it's name. Please disregard.
 
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Mike Boreham

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I know this is an old thread but there still seems to be crossed wires.

The OP screenshot clearly showed the booted sealed system snapshot as what he wanted to delete. As others have said you can't delete that.

The OP also showed 17.6 GB of "other" which he seems to have assumed was the same thing.

The OP said later in post#4 he had successfully deleted the folder "macOS Install data" which does sometimes appear at root level and can safely be deleted, and is nothing to do with the sealed system snapshot.

Yes, other snapshots appear on the boot drive which can be deleted, but not the sealed system boot drive.
 
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amaze1499

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I know this is an old thread but there still seems to be crossed wires.

The OP screenshot clearly showed the booted sealed system snapshot as what he wanted to delete. As others have said you can't delete that.

The OP also showed 17.6 GB of "other" which he seems to have assumed was the same thing.

The OP said later in post#4 he had successfully deleted the folder "macOS Install data" which does sometimes appear at root level and can safely be deleted, and is nothing to do with the sealed system snapshot.

Yes, other snapshots appear on the boot drive which can be deleted, but not the sealed system boot drive.
That's right. As I said, some snapshots can be deleted.
 

amaze1499

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Apologies, I read your post as saying 'actually you can' (delete the sealed system boot snapshot).....and others.
Sorry, I could have put it more precisely in the first place. Because indeed, it was actually about the sealed system boot snapshot
 
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avz

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The OP also showed 17.6 GB of "other" which he seems to have assumed was the same thing.

Yes, other snapshots appear on the boot drive which can be deleted, but not the sealed system boot drive.
I would like to know if anybody knows how to delete 17.6 GB of "other"? I went back to Sierra on my Intel Macs just to get rid of the "other".
 

Mike Boreham

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I would like to know if anybody knows how to delete 17.6 GB of "other"? I went back to Sierra on my Intel Macs just to get rid of the "other".
In the OPs case "Other" was the Mac OS Install data which can be deleted as he did successfully in post#4 above.

Your "Other" may be that or something else.

The About this Mac > Storage bar chart takes a while to fully categorise everything.....have you tried leaving it to see if "Other" gets replaced? After leaving mine for a few minutes I dont have any "Other".
 
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