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patent10021

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The other day I tried to drag and album from iTunes onto my iPhone but it said to turn off iCloud music first.

I thought we could have both synced from iTunes music (in My Music) plus iCloud music at the same time.

Also after I turned off iCloud Music and dragged an album onto my phone, that album did not appear in iCloud Music when I switch iCloud Music back on. It didn't appear in my iPhone's Recently Added playlist or anywhere.

Even now, that album is in my iTunes but not in the cloud even though I turned it back on.
 

Paco II

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What you want requires a subscription to Apple Music or iTunes Match.
 

whsbuss

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The other day I tried to drag and album from iTunes onto my iPhone but it said to turn off iCloud music first.

I thought we could have both synced from iTunes music (in My Music) plus iCloud music at the same time.

Also after I turned off iCloud Music and dragged an album onto my phone, that album did not appear in iCloud Music when I switch iCloud Music back on. It didn't appear in my iPhone's Recently Added playlist or anywhere.

Even now, that album is in my iTunes but not in the cloud even though I turned it back on.

Not how it works. If you want your local music sync'd to your iPhone iCloud library has to be off. And if its off, none of your other devices will have the capability to stream or download it.
 

Paco II

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If you have iTunes Match, and iCloud music library is enabled on both your source computer and iPhone, all your music will appear on your iPhone. If you need it offline, you'll have to specifically download those tracks . But with iCloud music library enabled, you can no longer manually move music to your iPhone. But there should be no need. If it is on your computer, it will appear on your iPhone.

Already have it. That's why it was working before. Suddenly it's weird.
 
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westrock2000

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The only work around is to turn off Match and then sync. I believe the songs that are on the phone will stay, so you won't have to completely re-sync the device. You can then turn Matach back on and the songs you put on will now be mixed in. You do this periodically to keep the device sync'ed with your "local" stuff.

But with iCloud music library enabled, you can no longer manually move music to your iPhone. But there should be no need. If it is on your computer, it will appear on your iPhone.

There are a couple situations. If you have music that is higher bit-rate then 256Kb/s (which is what Match will do). Or if you want to put music videos on your phone that are not on iTunes Music.
 

whsbuss

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The only work around is to turn off Match and then sync. I believe the songs that are on the phone will stay, so you won't have to completely re-sync the device. You can then turn Matach back on and the songs you put on will now be mixed in. You do this periodically to keep the device sync'ed with your "local" stuff.



There are a couple situations. If you have music that is higher bit-rate then 256Kb/s (which is what Match will do). Or if you want to put music videos on your phone that are not on iTunes Music.

iTunes Match or Apple Music iCloud Library? I believe there's a difference.
 
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westrock2000

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iTunes Match or Apple Music iCloud Library? I believe there's a difference.

With iTunes Match you cannot sync your device. But you gain full access to your library. With iTunes Music you can sync your device, but you loose access to your full library.

If you have both on then you cannot sync, but do get access to your full library, as well access to the "iTunes Store" (so to speak)
 

madmaxmedia

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As others have said, with iCloud Music turned on you shouldn't have to transfer songs via iTunes- after being 'matched' in your iTunes, they'll show up on your iPhone and from your iPhone you can download them for offline listening.

However...if you turn off iCloud Music on your iPhone, you can then manually transfer songs over. Then turn iCloud Music back on, and when given the option to merge or replace content on your iPhone, pick merge.

I guess this would be necessary if you want to load your phone with anything in your iTunes Library that doesn't get matched up via iCloud Music.
 
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