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Mord

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Aug 24, 2003
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So, originally I replaced apples paste with my own generic white goop which helped a bit, then I needed to send in my macbook for repair so I took the thing apart and put the original stuff back on (i'm an apple tech thus I have a spare syringe of it) but this time I applied the original stuff properly, now I idle at about 58 degrees and it has not once moo'd, if it's at load the fan runs constantly and not very loudly and if it's idle it does not turn on at all.


Moral of the story is apple uses damn good paste it's just put on badly, your likely to get brilliant results just thinning the paste out a little and apple won't bat an eyelid as it's the original paste thus it won't look suspicious.
 

vv-tim

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I'm sure Apple will notice when the tech puts it on his lap and doesn't get burned ;) He'll immediately void your warranty and send it back to you!
 

Mord

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go get a job at an applecenter, you can just use the paste thats already there, just thin it out a bit.
 

michaelrjohnson

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Hector said:
go get a job at an applecenter, you can just use the paste thats already there, just thin it out a bit.
I am very happy that it was successful for you.

...however, you realize that this isn't really a "fix" for most people, right?
 

Mord

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well you don't need new paste, anyone can do it with a set of jewelers screw drivers, i'm just saying that the original apple paste is very good, everyone else seems to be using arctic silver which is alright but only lowers temps a bit.
 

7on

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Well if Hector is an Apple tech then I suppose anything he does wouldn't affect the warranty...
 

Mord

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as much as anyone elces actions do, apple is not liable for problems you cause, that is the only voiding or warrenty that can take place, naturally they can blame things on people and if they see that something has been tampered with and is not to apple spec they will probably blame problems on it.
 

Spanky Deluxe

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risc said:
Wow this has to be the best idea ever GET A JOB AT APPLE so Apple don't notice your fix. Excuse me while I ... :rolleyes:

What a pointless thread!

I don't think that's quite true. He's saying that because he's a tech he has access to the paste, yes. However, he's also saying that everyone else can use the paste that's already on there and thin it out, we all know there's enough on there for about twenty MacBooks after all! If you've already cleaned off their paste and put Arctic Silver on then that's your problem but for new virgin MacBooks this should be of great interest.
 

Mord

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Aug 24, 2003
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regular macbooks idle around 67ish and thus the fan turns on and off and on and off, i have to load mine for the fan to come on and the temps hover around 70ish and it's a constant fan noise.
 

playaj82

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This is not an easy task to begin with. I remember on the old powerbooks, they used to have these little pieces of tape inside the laptop. In order to take it apart, you had to rip the tape. This was a tell-tale sign that you had tampered with your laptop, thereby voiding the warranty.

Plus, any "deconstruction" of a MBP, you may as well take off a week of work
 

plinden

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Hector said:
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regular macbooks idle around 67ish and thus the fan turns on and off and on and off, i have to load mine for the fan to come on and the temps hover around 70ish and it's a constant fan noise.

Hmm, my wife's MB wouldn't gain anything then:
 

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fall3n

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Aug 17, 2006
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iMac

I'm no mac guru, would the iMac have the same results? Or does it not apply because it's not a notebook?
 

FullmetalZ26

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When I applied AS5 in my MacBook, the temps dropped to the mid 50's at idle, but only stayed there for a few days. They gradually climbed back up to the mid 60's, and have stayed there ever since (unless under load, of course.) So give it a few days, perhaps that miracle Apple goo just needs some time to dry out like the stuff I originally found in my 'Book :rolleyes:

Also, for the record, you're not supposed to 'reuse' thermal grease. The reason for applying it fresh every time the heatsink is removed is so that you know that all of the voids and such are actually being filled.
 

plinden

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fall3n said:
I'm no mac guru, would the iMac have the same results? Or does it not apply because it's not a notebook?

The iMac is much cooler anyway - mine idles in the high 20s Celsius.
 

Mord

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FullmetalZ26 said:
When I applied AS5 in my MacBook, the temps dropped to the mid 50's at idle, but only stayed there for a few days. They gradually climbed back up to the mid 60's, and have stayed there ever since (unless under load, of course.) So give it a few days, perhaps that miracle Apple goo just needs some time to dry out like the stuff I originally found in my 'Book :rolleyes:

Also, for the record, you're not supposed to 'reuse' thermal grease. The reason for applying it fresh every time the heatsink is removed is so that you know that all of the voids and such are actually being filled.

it had been like it has for 5 days before i posted, as for reusing one just removes some, the paste stays in the cracks and works fine, companies that sell thermal paste say you shouldn't do this but it's perfectly ok.
 

Mord

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plinden said:
Hmm, my wife's MB wouldn't gain anything then:

it's summer and that shot was take a week back when it was allot hotter.
 

FullmetalZ26

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Hector said:
as for reusing one just removes some, the paste stays in the cracks and works fine, companies that sell thermal paste say you shouldn't do this but it's perfectly ok.
Call me paranoid, but there seems to be a huge margin for error there.
 

Mord

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Aug 24, 2003
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one is taking it off the top, not using a needle to take it out of every nock and cranny,
 

johntucker09

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Aug 17, 2006
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i thought i would post my temp pics...

0*C is correct, it was in front of an A/C Vent...
icecoldmacbook.png


This is at idle, i have done the Thermal Paste mod...
idlingmacbook.png
 
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