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petvas

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I was wondering, are there any M8 owners that will switch to the iPhone 6 when it comes out?
If yes why? If not, then again, what are the reasons?

I love my M8 but I am still very tempted by the new iPhone. I am not sure if all I ever wanted is a bigger screen, so I will wait for the official announcement and then make a decision.
On the other hand, there are some benefits using the M8, that the new iPhone won't change at all:
  • Customization capabilities in Android are really nice
  • The Boomsound speakers are amazing
  • The M8 design is amazing
  • I love Blinkfeed and it keeps me always up to date with a minimal effort. Flipboard isn't that good..

I am a bit bored of the iPhone design, but maybe the new iPhone will change that for me. I am not saying I will definitely not switch, but I am currently leaning towards keeping the M8.
Apple needs to create a device I can't say no to..Judging by the leaked designs, this is not the one, but of course when we see the device in reality, things might change.
 

Ddyracer

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wtf? i thought you said you were using your iPhone again in your android vs ios thread.
 

petvas

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wtf? i thought you said you were using your iPhone again in your android vs ios thread.

Yes, I know. I have gone back and forth at least 5 times! Now I am using an HTC One M8..I just couldn't give up on this device, but my Apple affinity is too big to ignore too..
 

maflynn

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I was wondering, are there any M8 owners that will switch to the iPhone 6 when it comes out?

Why M8 owners specifically? Would the question be more accurate for any android users?

I'm not knocking the M8, I think on paper its a great phone, though based on what I've read its having a hard time selling against Samsung.
 

petvas

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Why M8 owners specifically? Would the question be more accurate for any android users?

I'm not knocking the M8, I think on paper its a great phone, though based on what I've read its having a hard time selling against Samsung.

I am more interested in hearing the opinion of people that have the best designed Android phone. There are already threads about the whole Android vs iOS discussion. I belong believe that the M8 is the only Android phone with a build quality on par with the iPhone, so I am interested to see how people who value top design and great build quality plan about the new iPhone.

If I could afford both phones, I would have both, but I need to choose only one. Currently my choice is the M8, but knowing myself I might become weak when I see the iPhone 6. On the other hand, Android has grown on me the last weeks..I also like the new design in Android L, but till the M8 has gotten the update, it will be the end of the year (best case scenario)
 

jamezr

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I am more interested in hearing the opinion of people that have the best designed Android phone. There are already threads about the whole Android vs iOS discussion. I belong believe that the M8 is the only Android phone with a build quality on par with the iPhone, so I am interested to see how people who value top design and great build quality plan about the new iPhone.

If I could afford both phones, I would have both, but I need to choose only one. Currently my choice is the M8, but knowing myself I might become weak when I see the iPhone 6. On the other hand, Android has grown on me the last weeks..I also like the new design in Android L, but till the M8 has gotten the update, it will be the end of the year (best case scenario)
Right now I have an M8.... among others......I will be getting the IP6. But i don't plan on it replacing my M8. I use both Android and IOS. The m8 and IP6 both will use a nano sim so it is just a matter of pop in the sim and go.
I use Google for contacts and calendar. I use Dropbox to sync and store photos. I use isyncr to manage my iTunes library and playlists.
The only thing I have been able to sync between mobile OSes is text messages. SMS Backup will sync and backup texts on Android to Dropbox. But the iPhone will not import them.
 

sddabrow

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I'm not an M8 owner, but did have a high end Android device. All my issues aside, I have a couple reasons the iPhone might pull me back.

- SMS continuity - looks super slick and as a guy who works on my Mac Air often, would love to have this feature
- Call Forwarding - same reason as above.
- Standard iPhone functions - Airdrop & iMessage get used by all my non tech friends and.
- Handoff functionality.

Those are really what have me excited, the rest seem like catchup but those features will be huge to me.
 

Fernandez21

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I might be be replacing it. I carry 2 phones, one for work and one personal. For my work phone I currently use an iPhone 5S, main reason being is that on my work phone I talk to a lot of clients and use it mostly as a phone, so the smaller form factor is much more comfortable for me to use in this regard.

While on my personal phone I use mostly text to communicate and since I still have unlimited data with at&t I use it to stream a lot of media and to web browse. So for this phone, having a larger screen is a big advantage.

So right now I'm using the HTC One M8 as my personal and iPhone for work. What I still haven't decided is what I'll do with the new iPhone. If apple only releases a 4.7" model than I'll probably keep the M8 as my personal device and use the 6 as my work phone, but if apple also releases a 5.5" version then it'll be a tough decision but I might just get that and use it as my personal phone and sell the M8 and use a Moto X (or the X+1 depending in size) as my work phone.

Its a very tough decision and I really like my One M8 with GPE ROM, which means I'll get Android L this fall when its released, but since I also have a Mac and iPad and most of the people I text have iPhones I feel it would serve better as my personal internet, gaming, and media device than the One M8. Then again, maybe I'll just keep using the M8 as my work phone even though its slightly uncomfortable to use as phone over an extended amount of time.
 

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I have the original HTC One and think the M7 looks better to me than the M8. Glacial silver over any color of the M8 even if it was in glacial silver too. M8 seemed rehashed and not as fresh. But the M8 seems to have a more comfortable feel with the rounder edges and has the superior battery life.

With that said, the only phone I would consider over the M7 or M8 is the LG G3. I was leaning steel gray but like the white one. Has a removable back and the design is pretty nice and big jump from the G2. I'm generally not into iPhones as a daily driver. Being part of their "ecosystem" is like being in a restrictive marriage. I can't even mass delete photos or move different files around without iTunes.

6s over 6 just because we get the refinements internally while having generally the same design. I prefer the superior "s" twin. I learned in 2011 and 2013 to always go for the "s" model. Design fades. Performance lasts. This is why my all-time favorite phone might be the Xiaomi Mi 3 for under $250. Faster and more stamina. I prefer better battery performance over design, overheating, weak camera, etc. Longer battery means I can text and web surf longer which are usually the two things I do most on a smartphone. Art is just art. Useless and an eye candy paperweight.
 

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The only thing I have been able to sync between mobile OSes is text messages. SMS Backup will sync and backup texts on Android to Dropbox. But the iPhone will not import them.

switch to google voice?

I'm not an M8 owner, but did have a high end Android device. All my issues aside, I have a couple reasons the iPhone might pull me back.

- SMS continuity - looks super slick and as a guy who works on my Mac Air often, would love to have this feature
- Call Forwarding - same reason as above.
- Standard iPhone functions - Airdrop & iMessage get used by all my non tech friends and.
- Handoff functionality.

Those are really what have me excited, the rest seem like catchup but those features will be huge to me.

if you still have access to an android device, try using Airdroid or mysms, web pc suite app. there r tons of other apps which does a lot through wifi. you can use sms, backup files, import/export etc etc using airdroid. no wires needed. works on any platform and any computer without special software.
 

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I think everything depends on what you prioritize higher.

For me based on my comparisons with my phones -

HTC One vs Xiaomi Mi 3
Design - HTC One
Screen - HTC One
Videos - HTC One
Music - HTC One
Calling - HTC One
Texting - Xiaomi Mi 3
Surfing - Xiaomi Mi 3
Battery - Xiaomi Mi 3
Games - Xiaomi Mi 3
Camera - Xiaomi Mi 3

But I rank texting, browsing web, and battery life higher than most. As of now, the One became the backup phone or portable media player. It has a nicer and neutral display, much better sound internally/externally, and more storage space. Perfect for videos or songs. Call reception is also louder for me, has the better selfie cam, and it is probably my favorite design ever surpassing the Nexus One, any iPhone, or any other beautiful phone I've owned or lusted for. It is nearly a deadheat with a few ties like the custom skin/OS, but I prefer the Mi 3 because battery life is nearly 2x longer thanks to the Snapdragon 800 and 3050 mAh capacity. And the rounded edges makes it more comfortable to hold longer even with a larger footprint.

Maybe next year when I move back to US, I will use the One again more as a daily driver as it has LTE. Choose what you value more based on your daily usage. Then decide if you want to make a switch.
 

Technarchy

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I do not have an M8. I have a Samsung Galaxy S5, which was daring since the Galaxy S4 left a very bitter taste in my mouth and validated all the horrible things I remember about android prior to my getting the iPhone 4S, 5 and 5S.

However, I am quite content with my S5. I am interested in what Apple will offer, but at this moment I feel no excitement for what Apple is working on based upon leaks. This is mostly due to the S5 doing just about everything really well.

We'll see what Apple is working on. It's possible I might change over, but that is really up to Apple and what iPhone 6 brings to the table. The brand alone has no star power for me.
 

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Only used the M8 for a few days but I liked it a lot. Best industrial design out of any phone I ever owned and I still miss those speakers.

The dealbreaker for me was that camera though. It's just bad
 

petvas

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Only used the M8 for a few days but I liked it a lot. Best industrial design out of any phone I ever owned and I still miss those speakers.

The dealbreaker for me was that camera though. It's just bad
The camera isn't bad, you can still make nice pictures with it. It is good enough, but not as good as the iPhone's. For web pictures and sharing it is definitely ok though.
If I am on a trip I would definitely take a dedicated camera with me.
 

Liquorpuki

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The camera isn't bad, you can still make nice pictures with it. It is good enough, but not as good as the iPhone's. For web pictures and sharing it is definitely ok though.
If I am on a trip I would definitely take a dedicated camera with me.

I didn't like it and ended up sticking with the S5 strictly because of the camera even though with almost everything else I preferred the M8.

I'm buying a new house right now and I took a picture of the house with my S5 from across the street. I was able to zoom in and see the wall texture and address number. You can't do this with a 4 MP camera. The minute you zoom into an image taken on the M8, to make out details or do editing, you see how inadequate the camera is.

If HTC ditched the ultrapixel / depth sensor combo and stuck in a 10+ MP sensor, they'd have the perfect phone IMO
 

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I am more interested in hearing the opinion of people that have the best designed Android phone.

Well that's an opinion in itself, I don't think the M8 is the best design Android phone for instance.

Anyway I wouldn't get an iPhone myself if the screen resolution can't even get to or above 1080P, but that is no fact as we have no real specs of the phones. I wouldn't get one anyway still. Like Android too much really.
 

jamezr

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I didn't like it and ended up sticking with the S5 strictly because of the camera even though with almost everything else I preferred the M8.

I'm buying a new house right now and I took a picture of the house with my S5 from across the street. I was able to zoom in and see the wall texture and address number. You can't do this with a 4 MP camera. The minute you zoom into an image taken on the M8, to make out details or do editing, you see how inadequate the camera is.

If HTC ditched the ultrapixel / depth sensor combo and stuck in a 10+ MP sensor, they'd have the perfect phone IMO

I agree with you about the M8 camera....it is not all that bad. It is just not what you expect from a flagship phone in 2014
 
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petvas

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Well that's an opinion in itself, I don't think the M8 is the best design Android phone for instance.

Anyway I wouldn't get an iPhone myself if the screen resolution can't even get to or above 1080P, but that is no fact as we have no real specs of the phones. I wouldn't get one anyway still. Like Android too much really.

I guess this is really subjective, but let's just agree that the M8 is one of the top designed phones. Most of the press has said it is the best designed phone, but I understand that different people will have different views.
 

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I had to switch carriers about a month ago and after my lackluster experience with an S3, I decided I wanted the iPhone experience where everything 'just works.' I bought a secondhand iPhone 4s to hold me over till the 6 is released, and I barely made it a week before I decided to stick with Android. I have some nit-picky beefs with iOS, but it was the keyboard that kept me from even liking iOS. (I know they are doing something about this, but it's yet unproven.)
Back on track, the answer is no. I'm keeping my M8. The camera is weak, but it serves it's purpose. I have an SLR for real photos. The build quality is superb (unlike the G3), the screen size is right on, I can hear the speakers, and it has expandable storage. Google takes care of all my syncing needs, so I'm set.
Every single phone has it's tradeoffs; my advice is to just get the phone that makes you happy.
 

petvas

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I had to switch carriers about a month ago and after my lackluster experience with an S3, I decided I wanted the iPhone experience where everything 'just works.' I bought a secondhand iPhone 4s to hold me over till the 6 is released, and I barely made it a week before I decided to stick with Android. I have some nit-picky beefs with iOS, but it was the keyboard that kept me from even liking iOS. (I know they are doing something about this, but it's yet unproven.)
Back on track, the answer is no. I'm keeping my M8. The camera is weak, but it serves it's purpose. I have an SLR for real photos. The build quality is superb (unlike the G3), the screen size is right on, I can hear the speakers, and it has expandable storage. Google takes care of all my syncing needs, so I'm set.
Every single phone has it's tradeoffs; my advice is to just get the phone that makes you happy.

I think that is the best advice anyone can give.
You cannot imagine how many times I have switched back and forth, between the iPhone and the M8. The truth is, I prefer the M8 as a phone..I just wished it was made by Apple!! I guess I am a big fanboy and cannot admit it. (or maybe I just did :) )
The M8 is the phone hat makes me want to use it all the time. The iPhone 5S is not. The M8 is exciting, while the iPhone is dull and boring (to me).
I have made up my mind and will keep the M8, at least for now. I will go to an Applestore and have a look at the iPhone 6 and see how it is, but I don't think I will be getting it. The OS is the major issue here, together with the boring design (after so many years we are still getting the same design, with small alterations). Maybe Apple proves me wrong. We will see.
 

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Some reasons to stay with M8 -

- HTC has the best build quality and design among all Android OEM's. Premium brand maker. Even better designs than Sony and Motorola. They take more chances than Apple. True, a few hideous clunkers here and there but their history in design has always been top-notch since the Touch Diamond. Even the plastic they use is excellent. M8 is the best-looking design flagship for 2014 and might remain so even after the iPhone 6 gets officially announced. That's how good the M7 was last year that rehashing it still keeps them up there.

- External sound is generally class-leading with BoomSound. Even Sony Xperia Z line have tinny speakers excluding the Z2 which went dual front-facing. Internal sound is up there with the best like Sony sans Beats Audio nowadays.

- The Super LCD they use is generally one of the nicest displays out there. Truly a joy to use while watching movies. Never too cool (blueish) or warm (yellowish). Neutral.

- Headphones that come with the phone is the best I ever owned.

- More metal but less overheat compared to its predecessor thanks to the cool and power efficient Snapdragon 801, 300 more mAh than M7, and HTC's own battery optimizations.

- Expandable memory slot and better battery life makes it better than its predecessor by those two reasons alone not to mention the double tap feature to wake screen up for M8 owners.

- Sense has now become among the best Android skins and 6 seems even faster and more fluid than before. LG even took some cues from HTC's icons and revamped LG's skin for the better. HTC did copy LG's Knock-On feature.

- HTC has improved on updating for both Android and Sense. It seems like 2013 was when they pressed the reset button and went back to year (or step) "One" as most 2012 phones like the One X, One S, and prior got shutout completely from official updates.

- IR blaster and Zoe gallery app are pretty cool.



Some reasons to ditch M8 -

- HTC's financial security looks gloomy. It actually shrank marketshare this year in the US at 5%. Very little marketshare in Asia other than its home country of Taiwan. Isn't top 10 in China.

- Smartphones is HTC's main source of income. They rely on Microsoft and Google's mobile OSes. No retail stores. No other product segments they are successful in. One-trick pony. Even a 4-year old company like Xiaomi is expanding their product line and already have a mascot with their Mitoo bunny that they sell for $16 as plush toys. If you like ecosystems, HTC is NOT for you.

- Marketing is poor and lack of retail stores also prevents an ecosystem. Relies heavily on carriers to market their products which is a problem for most Android OEM's other than Samsung. Sony and LG already have a reputation in other industries.

- Questionable customer service. With Apple, they are willing to give you a newer replacement on the same day and sometimes no charge! Not wait two weeks by shipping it to their service centers only to receive sometimes a refurbished one. Sony is also guilty of this.

- Unremovable battery. The iPhones are also unremovable but the screws underneath are easy to remove to slide off its backplate.

- Repairability rating is very poor based from iFixit. Difficult to crack open. Once metal surface dents or scrapes, it doesn't go away. This is why metal is overrated but most people are brainwashed into thinking metal rules, plastic sucks when the latter is more practical for damages. Easier to remove and replace. Less signal blockage. Lower SAR. Lighter and lesser heat.

- Weak UltraPixel camera (again) which is nowhere the level of 5s, S5, Z2, and Lumia flagships. Rear dual cameras looks odd and they aren't protected by sapphire crystal like the iPhone 5/5s and G2/G3. Two lens to easily scratch up.

- Lack of accessories. Samsung helped popularize the flip covers and LG's G3 has a much nicer flip cover than HTC's.

- iPhones have better resell value. HTC does not since far lesser demand for them. One of the HTC retail stores here might actually be closing down. Rarely do I see anyone go inside. The M8 was never even released here because the M7 was a commercial flop locally. People were too busy buying iP5s, GS4, GNote 3, Sony, Lenovo, or local brands last year. HTC is one of the major global brands that you can also consider "obscure" to the general masses.



I feel HTC is one generation away of making the near-perfect smartphone for them. Ditch the UltraPixel. Find a way to add a removable back cover which was common back in 2010. Maybe add water/dust resistance like the Butterfly 2. I would like HTC to go back to the M7 design and similar footprint but give it M8's rounded corners, memory slot, and 5-inch screen for their M9. Read they will work with Bose to trim the speaker bezel. Nice.

Even after all that, who knows? Might NOT be enough in a crowded field. Competition is getting stronger with the rise of Chinese brands. Personally, I have no interest in iPhone 6 or its ecosystem. I would keep my M7 for sentimental value even with all its flaws. It still would make a great backup phone and portable media player. I don't keep my phones longer than 2-3 years. It would have to be a minimum of the LG G3 specs/design for me to sell it off.

Right now, I don't feel the G3 is $200-$300 better than the M7 or 2-3x pricier than a Mi 3 or Mi 4. Battery life is suspect trying to power a useless feature to me like a 2k resolution. But it is removable and has a comfortable feel. The Z2 interests me with the all-day battery life, but I don't like the sides, rear glass, and it overheats alot. It is also more expensive than the G3 while being older and less attractive or comfortable. I would keep the M7 until something really better comes out.

M7 receiving multiple 2013 smartphone of the year awards was like HTC receiving their lifetime achievement awards. M7 was a pinnacle achievement and accumulation of their past and present at the time. M8 did improve upon it the way The Godfather Part II was an improvement to the original, but perhaps M9 or M10 could be HTC's swan song. The only person who can really decide is yourself and which one you will feel more comfortable to use in the long run.
 

petvas

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Yes, it's sad to see HTC not getting the market share and recognition their products deserve. Their future is definitely not sure, but they have improved their situation this year.
Despite their problems, what really counts is the user experience the M8 offers. I don't think that we should worry if HTC is going to be around in the next 2-3 years. Their financial position is not that bad.

I love using Apple's ecosystem and it bothers me somehow that the M8 cannot totally integrate into that, but this is not HTCs fault. In order to integrate the M8 into my Apple ecosystem I changed some things:
  • started using Exchange for Mail, calendar and contacts
  • installed Google's Music Manager on my Mac and uploaded my iTunes library to Google
  • I started using OneNote for Journal (before that I was using Day One Journal)
  • i started using Wunderlist for tasks (alternatively I use Omnifocus and there is even an unofficial Android client available)

Of course I have a major interest in Apple, but my daily driver is going to be the M8 for me, at least for now. My iPhone 5S is going to be used as a secondary device.
Maybe the iPhone 6 will be so spectacular that it will make me change my mind..
 

alphaod

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I keep two phones and three numbers. I will definitely be buying an iPhone 6 for at least one of these numbers.
 
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