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Herb4372

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Apr 5, 2018
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Thinking of adding a couple Hunter Symphony Fans to my home. unfortunately their instruction manual doesnt really cover what i'm looking to find out and my email to hunter support has been unanswered for several days. Does anyone here have experience with them?

I undertand that their ideal isntallation is a single hardwired power source, or one switch and operate the fan and light with the remote or home app (or hunter simple connect app). But there are a few questions i need clarified on this.

1) The manual has an option to install two switches (my bedrooms are prewired for 2 switches to the ceiling one for light, one for fan already) but the instructions show how to install 2 switches then says to cap it off and use only one... is this accurate?

2) once wired, does switching it off at the wall default it back to a normal operation? I.e. like hue bulbs.. when you turn them off and back on at a switch they will come back on as white light. I'm hoping that switching it off and on at the wall will still turn the fan on... otherwise activating the switch THEN using the remote or app seems bulky.

3) if thats the case, it seems a better option is to install a homekit switch on the wall and a standard "dumb" fan on the ceiling....

Thoughts? Experiences?
 

vipergts2207

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Apr 7, 2009
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Thinking of adding a couple Hunter Symphony Fans to my home. unfortunately their instruction manual doesnt really cover what i'm looking to find out and my email to hunter support has been unanswered for several days. Does anyone here have experience with them?

I undertand that their ideal isntallation is a single hardwired power source, or one switch and operate the fan and light with the remote or home app (or hunter simple connect app). But there are a few questions i need clarified on this.

1) The manual has an option to install two switches (my bedrooms are prewired for 2 switches to the ceiling one for light, one for fan already) but the instructions show how to install 2 switches then says to cap it off and use only one... is this accurate?

2) once wired, does switching it off at the wall default it back to a normal operation? I.e. like hue bulbs.. when you turn them off and back on at a switch they will come back on as white light. I'm hoping that switching it off and on at the wall will still turn the fan on... otherwise activating the switch THEN using the remote or app seems bulky.

3) if thats the case, it seems a better option is to install a homekit switch on the wall and a standard "dumb" fan on the ceiling....

Thoughts? Experiences?

1. I can’t answer this as I have a single switch setup.

2. The fan and light do remember their last state when power comes back on, but it seems to me that this will cause an issue if someone turns it off in HomeKit, as then the fan won’t come on at the switch because it recognizes its last state as being off.

Personally I replaced my switch with one of these.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hunter-...all-Mount-Ceiling-Fan-Control-99373/301081336
 

Herb4372

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Apr 5, 2018
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I see what you’re saying. Unfortunately I already have 2 switches wired and putting a blank on the wall irritates me. Though I could use that spot for a hue dimmer or some other smart switch.

Do problems using the hunter universal switch? Can move freely between wallswitch and HomeKit controls without conflict?
 

cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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I see what you’re saying. Unfortunately I already have 2 switches wired and putting a blank on the wall irritates me. Though I could use that spot for a hue dimmer or some other smart switch.

Do problems using the hunter universal switch? Can move freely between wallswitch and HomeKit controls without conflict?

If I were you I would do one of two things.

1. Don’t blank it off. Get a smart switch but just wire it to hot and neutral. Then have it control something via automation, a table lamp with a smart plug for example.

2. (What I already did in my house with 2 switches for each fan). Don’t buy the hunter/return it. Get any fan you light based on quality and appearance. Then get a smart switch and a smart dimmer. Replace the existing switches with the switch on the fan and dimmer on the light (don’t use a dimmer on the fan motor). Most fans come with a wireless speed controller (or buy a universal) and those do retain their previous setting through a power cycle.

Now I can turn on the fan and lights via Siri but the reason I did that is so anyone can turn the lights and fan normally with the option to use an app/Siri which can be frustrating especially for guest.

The only con I have is I can’t control the fans speed via Honekit. Which isn’t a problem for me though, I like it on low. Since the light is on a dimmer (wired straight through not through the controller) I still have full HomeKit control.

Hope this helps or at least gives you some ideas.
 

Herb4372

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Apr 5, 2018
12
3
If I were you I would do one of two things.

1. Don’t blank it off. Get a smart switch but just wire it to hot and neutral. Then have it control something via automation, a table lamp with a smart plug for example.

2. (What I already did in my house with 2 switches for each fan). Don’t buy the hunter/return it. Get any fan you light based on quality and appearance. Then get a smart switch and a smart dimmer. Replace the existing switches with the switch on the fan and dimmer on the light (don’t use a dimmer on the fan motor). Most fans come with a wireless speed controller (or buy a universal) and those do retain their previous setting through a power cycle.

Now I can turn on the fan and lights via Siri but the reason I did that is so anyone can turn the lights and fan normally with the option to use an app/Siri which can be frustrating especially for guest.

The only con I have is I can’t control the fans speed via Honekit. Which isn’t a problem for me though, I like it on low. Since the light is on a dimmer (wired straight through not through the controller) I still have full HomeKit control.

Hope this helps or at least gives you some ideas.

Yup. That’s what I was leaning toward. Thanks for confirming this lay out
 

vipergts2207

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Apr 7, 2009
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I see what you’re saying. Unfortunately I already have 2 switches wired and putting a blank on the wall irritates me. Though I could use that spot for a hue dimmer or some other smart switch.

Do problems using the hunter universal switch? Can move freely between wallswitch and HomeKit controls without conflict?

No I don’t have any issues with HomeKit and the wall switch. The wall switch is really just a remote as opposed to a true switch.
 
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