I am assuming not, but those on a 5,1 and High Sierra...

[monkeybagel]

Seeing any apparent difference in the new boot ROM capabilities? Internet Recovery made an appearance by chance? Or a black boot screen with silver Apple logo to "modernize" the machine somewhat. I know the boot screen is trivial and has no importance, but I do find it interesting they have a team dedicated to keeping these machines alive a little while longer, so I wonder how far they will go? It was quite shocking for them to admit the 2013 was not "the best workstation on the planet" and announce the iMac Pro many months before release.

I have always thought it has been very "un-Apple" like to not have a supported, authorized method of recovering the machine from a failed disk, although the majority of us have the installers on USB drives for about every version.

 

[h9826790]

Seeing any apparent difference in the new boot ROM capabilities? Internet Recovery made an appearance by chance? Or a black boot screen with silver Apple logo to "modernize" the machine somewhat. I know the boot screen is trivial and has no importance, but I do find it interesting they have a team dedicated to keeping these machines alive a little while longer, so I wonder how far they will go? It was quite shocking for them to admit the 2013 was not "the best workstation on the planet" and announce the iMac Pro many months before release.

I have always thought it has been very "un-Apple" like to not have a supported, authorized method of recovering the machine from a failed disk, although the majority of us have the installers on USB drives for about every version.

No quite sure what you mean, all cMP should shipped with a pair of DVD that can re-install the OSX and software if the Mac suffer from a hard drive failure. Of course, for most of us, that disks are useless now because of the 5,1 firmware hack, or that OS won't support our GPU etc. But that's our own problem. Apple do provide a way to safe the machine on stock config if something goes wrong. For 4,1, it even provide a firmware recover utility (downloadable from Apple.com) if something goes wrong during firmware upgrade.

 

[monkeybagel]

The only ones that shipped with the two DVDs (OS X and Applications) were the ones that shipped before the release of Lion 10.7. Other than that, they shipped with 10.6.4 which excludes any retail media that was sold except Server media. Mine did not ship with DVDs or have any "drop ins" included and had 10.8 installed out of the box, which was a CTO. Perhaps they would mail 10.6.4 recovery DVDs if one requested them, but them being long out of warranty I am sure there would most likely be a fee even if they are still in stock.

 

[h9826790]

Oh, thanks for correcting me, I don't know about that. My 4,1 come with the OSX recovery disk, and a software disk that included iWork, iLife, etc. So, all 2012 Mac Pro do not come with a disk?

That's really a problem. I can understand their logic is the recovery partition can do the job (only recovery the OS, but not the software), so the disk is not require anymore. But since the 2012 Mac Pro do not have internet recovery. As you said, if the hard drive fail. Then the Mac stuck, and no official method to let the user fix it.