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mauly

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I’m really confused with photos and iCloud. In photos on my mac I have just completed the upload library and have download originals to mac selected.. So my understanding is all photos and videos are now stored on my mac! but, when I deleted a photo on my phone it deleted the photo on my mac too!!!

My phone is going into apple on Monday for a new battery and needs to be reset…
 
That’s how it works. You have one library. Each device is a “window” to your single library. Every device presents the same view.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204264

That’s how email has worked for a long time. The web is the same way—post to MacRumors from your phone and you’ll see it on your computer.
 
So how do i remove photos from my phone without it deleting them on my mac?
You don’t

Don’t think about it like. You have just one photo library. You can view and manage it from any device.

Don’t worry about space either. Your devices automatically manage the storage space. For example, my photo library contains 10,500 photos—over 50GB in total. I have a 64GB iPhone and my phone still has 35GB free storage because iCloud intelligently manages the storage.
 
It is rather easy, don't use an Apple program to store all your photos just the ones you want from your Mac or phone. Download your photos to your computer then only upload the ones you want to show or use. In the opposite direction, take photo's on your phone and put them on your computer and only upload the ones you want to the cloud. You will always have originals on your computer that will never be erased until you decide to erase them.
 
chabig wrote:
"That’s how it works. You have one library. Each device is a “window” to your single library. Every device presents the same view.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204264
That’s how email has worked for a long time. The web is the same way—post to MacRumors from your phone and you’ll see it on your computer."


Heh.
That's why I don't use -- and will NEVER use -- iCloud.
It's also why I don't use iOS products.

I do have an Android tablet, which I bought specifically because I DID NOT want "synching" via iCould, and because there's no other way to really access and control an iPad other than using iCloud, right?

I prefer that I can plug the Android tablet into the Mac, and have it appear on the desktop "as if it were just another USB drive".
I can then copy items into the folders on it, or copy them FROM such folders, etc.
In other words, it has a "real file system" that is user-accessible.

If Apple still had this (they used to let you run an iPod this way when attached via firewire), I would have bought one of their products instead.

But... they don't.

One more thing:
I don't use IMAP either, for the reasons chabig stated above.
I'll stick with POP3 as long as it still works.
But I'm just an old troglodyte anyway (refer to my avatar!) ;)
 
So how do i remove photos from my phone without it deleting them on my mac?
Open Photos on your Mac and drag the picture to some Finder folder then delete the picture from your Library.
I always thought one could have a second Photos Library that isn't shared but local to your Mac. I'll give it a try.
 
chabig wrote:
I do have an Android tablet, which I bought specifically because I DID NOT want "synching" via iCould
Then don't activate it?
, and because there's no other way to really access and control an iPad other than using iCloud, right?
Erh, how on earth did you come up with that crazy thinking? You don't have to use iCloud in any way, with any Apple product, if you don't want to.

I prefer that I can plug the Android tablet into the Mac, and have it appear on the desktop "as if it were just another USB drive".
I can then copy items into the folders on it, or copy them FROM such folders, etc.
In other words, "Get off my lawn".

In other words, it has a "real file system" that is user-accessible.
File manager is the word you are looking for. Of course it has a filesystem.

If Apple still had this (they used to let you run an iPod this way when attached via firewire), I would have bought one of their products instead.
You could actually do that with the Firewire iPod.

But... they don't.
Yes, they did. You are just not doing proper research and digging further into your 'Apple is bad' hole.

I don't use IMAP either, for the reasons chabig stated above.
You really are missing out on convenience.

But I'm just an old troglodyte anyway (refer to my avatar!) ;)
Now that is absolutely correct![/QUOTE]
 
chabig wrote:
"That’s how it works. You have one library. Each device is a “window” to your single library. Every device presents the same view.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204264
That’s how email has worked for a long time. The web is the same way—post to MacRumors from your phone and you’ll see it on your computer."


Heh.
That's why I don't use -- and will NEVER use -- iCloud.
It's also why I don't use iOS products.

I do have an Android tablet, which I bought specifically because I DID NOT want "synching" via iCould, and because there's no other way to really access and control an iPad other than using iCloud, right?

I prefer that I can plug the Android tablet into the Mac, and have it appear on the desktop "as if it were just another USB drive".
I can then copy items into the folders on it, or copy them FROM such folders, etc.
In other words, it has a "real file system" that is user-accessible.

If Apple still had this (they used to let you run an iPod this way when attached via firewire), I would have bought one of their products instead.

But... they don't.

One more thing:
I don't use IMAP either, for the reasons chabig stated above.
I'll stick with POP3 as long as it still works.
But I'm just an old troglodyte anyway (refer to my avatar!) ;)

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but you can still plug you i-device into your computer and you will presented with a folder you can load and unload photos in, this works really well on the Windows side.
 
So...
I can plug an iPad into the Mac, then open it (as if it were say, a USB drive), and access its file system using the finder, create folders, move items and folders back and forth?
 
I prefer that I can plug the Android tablet into the Mac, and have it appear on the desktop "as if it were just another USB drive".
I can then copy items into the folders on it, or copy them FROM such folders, etc.
In other words, it has a "real file system" that is user-accessible.
I have an Android phone as well as an Amazon Fire (which is really an Android tablet honestly) and neither do this on a Mac. On a PC yes, but I've never, ever had that happen with a Mac. If I want to move files onto them using my MBP, I have to use a special program (i.e. Commander One or that godawful official file transfer app from Google) and they never show up as external drives in Finder.
 
Apollo wrote:
"I have an Android phone as well as an Amazon Fire (which is really an Android tablet honestly) and neither do this on a Mac."

I have 2 Samsung Android devices.

The first is a phone-sized "Galaxy Player 4" (not a phone).
When I connect that to the Mac using a USB cable, the Samsung presents a dialog asking if I wish to connect via USB. When I click OK, the device appears on the desktop, and I can then access its file/folder system and move files in and out accordingly.

The second is a new S2 9.7" tablet.
Haven't tried connecting that to the Mac yet.
I'll have to try it later, and see what happens.

A direct question to anyone reading this:
Can I plug an iPad into the Mac, and then:
- have its icon mount on the desktop
- open the icon and access files/folders within?
- copy data in and out of those folders?

EDIT:
I tried connecting the Galaxy S2 to the Mac, and it wanted something called "Android File Transfer" (6mb app).
I downloaded that, and it gave me a "finder-like" window through which I could access files on the tablet.
 
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