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I feel like I'm losing the faith!?
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Ridiculous hyperbole. Much of the above can be equally applied to Microsoft.
Vaguely interesting article but essentially a long-winded self-justification.
Blue Velvet said:
I can't stand these sites anymore, articles are like research papers, omg they're long. Articles are supposed to be short and sweet, that's why I like magazines.
What about the cost arguments?
I mean, I'd pay MORE for reliability... we work in Design and cannot, repeat CANNOT afford to spend endless hours in computer trouble.
My friends and family on PC seem to have at least 3 times the trouble with their computers than we do on our Macs. But sometimes... with open source freeware growing, I wonder if I've got it all wrong...
I mean, I'd pay MORE for reliability... we work in Design and cannot, repeat CANNOT afford to spend endless hours in computer trouble.
My friends and family on PC seem to have at least 3 times the trouble with their computers than we do on our Macs. But sometimes... with open source freeware growing, I wonder if I've got it all wrong...
slooksterPSV said:
yep, the best articles are short and to the point. i don't care what year it was, what color your computer was, just get me to the point, cuz if i spent 15-20 minutes reading an article, it better be good otherwise i'm pissed off and probably anti-whatever you were trying to say.
I went to the page. My initial thought was hey, that's not sooo bad. I then scrolled down and realized it was page 1/5.
That is way too long of a rant. I mean when you are going to write a rant and post it on the internet, you should at least be considerate of what other people want to read, right?
They think they are being helpful by splitting it up into 5 pages, but all that they are really doing is giving false hope to initials visitors that the read wouldn't be too excruciating.
That person just seems to go on and on about why they probably won't buy a Mac again.
Personally, I don't care if they plan on buying a Mac again or not. What does bother me, though, is that they are trying to influence everyone else's purchasing decision... they obviously expect many readers, if they split up the rant into 5 pages. They wouldn't need to split it up, if it was only for themselves.
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That is way too long of a rant. I mean when you are going to write a rant and post it on the internet, you should at least be considerate of what other people want to read, right?
They think they are being helpful by splitting it up into 5 pages, but all that they are really doing is giving false hope to initials visitors that the read wouldn't be too excruciating.
That person just seems to go on and on about why they probably won't buy a Mac again.
Personally, I don't care if they plan on buying a Mac again or not. What does bother me, though, is that they are trying to influence everyone else's purchasing decision... they obviously expect many readers, if they split up the rant into 5 pages. They wouldn't need to split it up, if it was only for themselves.
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Blue Velvet.
The article's point exactly!
He failed to mention one point though:
4 months into an Intel transition (give or take); Apple still cannot provide an reliable laptop.
Now we may think that 4 months is not so much, but we are all talking about how quickly models get updated and it's not like they haven't been working on this for longer.
Defective and premium priced products.
I can't bring myself to buy a new Mac either
The article's point exactly!
He failed to mention one point though:
4 months into an Intel transition (give or take); Apple still cannot provide an reliable laptop.
Now we may think that 4 months is not so much, but we are all talking about how quickly models get updated and it's not like they haven't been working on this for longer.
Defective and premium priced products.
I can't bring myself to buy a new Mac either
I used to know PC's so well, now *bows head* I ask for help on them, lol. It's true, sometimes I do cause I'm so used to a Mac Environment. I ask them to open up terminal on Windows XP. They ask why a prog won't work, I say, repair permissions. Nah, I'm still good with PC's its Linux I'm moving into to learn more about now. I'm becoming a PC guru, my school is at a loss cause I gradgitate (lol graduate o'course) this year, they want me to get a cell-phone and all this stuff so I can help them next year. Ahhh, Macs, how would the world ever get by without them. -- sorry a little rant OTeclipse said:
EDIT: I am a Mac Guru *hugs iBook*
EDIT2: And to think, 5 years ago I said, who would want a mac, piece of crap. Now I can't use a PC cause of Macs features *hugs iBook again*
Sorry to be such a noob, but can I construe from these posts that Mac users don't read books?
I say again: DON'T READ BOOKS?
Sorry for the sarcasm, but I would think that a critique of the length of the article would be more relevant with regards to the CONTENTS and not the absolute length. As far a convincing others about our opinion...I don't see any of that from Apple users
I am probably PNG at MR now
I still think it's unbelievable (and unacceptable) that MBPs are being returned because they 'burn' furniture. I mean, I can't stand the alternative, but Macs burning furniture? Is this for real? XP seizing up, reliability problems, yes, but a SONY destroying the livingroom table , never seen that one before! but MBPs are still selling like hot cakes.
I say again: DON'T READ BOOKS?
Sorry for the sarcasm, but I would think that a critique of the length of the article would be more relevant with regards to the CONTENTS and not the absolute length. As far a convincing others about our opinion...I don't see any of that from Apple users
I am probably PNG at MR now
I still think it's unbelievable (and unacceptable) that MBPs are being returned because they 'burn' furniture. I mean, I can't stand the alternative, but Macs burning furniture? Is this for real? XP seizing up, reliability problems, yes, but a SONY destroying the livingroom table
, never seen that one before! but MBPs are still selling like hot cakes. iPie said:Sorry to be such a noob, but can I construe from these posts that Mac users don't read books?
I say again: DON'T READ BOOKS?
Sorry for the sarcasm, but I would think that a critique of the length of the article would be more relevant with regards to the CONTENTS and not the absolute length. As far a convincing others about our opinion...I don't see any of that from Apple users
Look, for me the problem with the length is that he's not telling us anything new, page after page. Wow, you don't like Apple, and you're throwing up strawmen that are easy to knock down... page four... page five.... ok, enough. Seriously, don't like Macs? Don't buy them. Apple's got a really small market share, and yet gets a huge amount of negative attention like this, which I just can't understand. Is it a "beat on the little guy" mentality, or what? Sheesh.
Anyways, sorry to rant, but it just bugs the heck out of me that I even wasted any time reading that crap. Gah. I'm gonna go take a shower now.
eclipse said:
I think it was written by Bill Gates. Did you notice all the Windows server ads on each page?
The drivel he wrote is not worth reading, save your time. The writer thinks the Apple users on a forum like this are brain dead and hate anything other than Mac. Anybody who generalizes people like that does not deserve my time.
eclipse said:
Open source is awesome, I have a couple machines that run on Linux. But they are still PC architecture and made from cheaper parts (the latter is now the only benefit in this argument, thanks a lot Steve), and the software is just more stable in the MacOS (or just better, in the case of comparing, say, Photoshop to Gimp). Still, it's free, and it works, and is far more stable than Windows, so...
iPie said:Sorry to be such a noob, but can I construe from these posts that Mac users don't read books?
I say again: DON'T READ BOOKS?
Sorry for the sarcasm, but I would think that a critique of the length of the article would be more relevant with regards to the CONTENTS and not the absolute length. As far a convincing others about our opinion...I don't see any of that from Apple users
If a book can be summed up in 5 paragraphs, then it should. Books are 100's of pages because they have content, which this article doesn't. It's like talking about who won a sports game, by dragging it over 2 pages. Unnecessary
I seriously want to say thanks to the guy who wrote that. I don't know why I'm saying this in a predominantly-Mac forum, but he's right, to an extent, about the fanaticism and advocacy rampant in such places like mac website forums.
Unfortunately it looks like I'm the only one who thinks that way here
And I've considered getting one of those tiny shuttle barebones setups as a birthday gift to my mom instead of a mac mini, those things are sweet as hell
However, unlike the author of that article, I will be buying Macs not because they're manufactured by Apple (seemingly a bad thing nowadays, what with the thermal paste and whatnot) and have that shiney little Apple logo on it, but because they come with OS X. The day Apple starts selling OS X standalone for any x86-based machine is the day I'll start buying and building my own hardware.
Unfortunately it looks like I'm the only one who thinks that way here
And I've considered getting one of those tiny shuttle barebones setups as a birthday gift to my mom instead of a mac mini, those things are sweet as hell
However, unlike the author of that article, I will be buying Macs not because they're manufactured by Apple (seemingly a bad thing nowadays, what with the thermal paste and whatnot) and have that shiney little Apple logo on it, but because they come with OS X. The day Apple starts selling OS X standalone for any x86-based machine is the day I'll start buying and building my own hardware.