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eddie24

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So earlier today I was upgrading the iPhone 15 Pro Max to the iPhone 16 Pro Max, which was running iOS 18.1 dev beta 4. The initial stages of the upgrade seemed smooth as usual, with the iPhone 16 prompting the standard update before the data transfer could proceed. However, things quickly took a turn when the wireless transfer between the phones froze for an extended period. After concluding that the process had stalled, I stopped and restarted it, but this led to a new issue - the transfer wouldn't initiate at all. It seemed as though the previous attempt had caused a conflict that prevented the process from beginning again.

I reset the iPhone 16 Pro Max, hoping a fresh start would fix the issue, but the transfer still wouldn’t work. At this point, I suspected that the problem might lie with the software, so I updated the 16PM to iOS 18.1 beta 4, which seemed to take forever. Despite this, more problems surfaced during the next attempt, including a strange situation where my passcode was repeatedly rejected. Even though I was certain I had entered the correct code, it failed three times, leaving me locked out of the phone. To make matters worse, my eSIM had already transferred to the new device, but without the data, I couldn’t access anything on the new phone, and the old phone no longer had the eSIM. So I couldn't even use my phone to phone apple or my network provider.

This led to a trip to a store to transfer the eSIM to a physical SIM, but that process was delayed for several hours due to issues on their end. Eventually, I resorted to putting the iPhone 16 into recovery mode, but even then, I encountered errors retrieving the necessary files from the server. After switching to a different Mac, I was finally able to restore the iPhone 16 Pro Max and proceed with another data transfer attempt. This time, after a lengthy process of reinstalling iOS 18.1 beta 4, the transfer succeeded.

The entire experience was a reminder of the potential pitfalls when upgrading with beta software, particularly during a critical transfer. The challenges with the eSIM added another layer of frustration, and the passcode issue remains a mystery. In hindsight, it's clear that attempting a transfer with beta software is not advised. I really should know better.
 
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Jeff5i

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My process every time is to sign into the new phone, not continuing with a transfer, then updating to the latest beta version. I then factory reset the new phone and then transfer from the old one.
 

The Doctor11

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Wow, so sorry your fun day turned into more stress than fun. Usually I wouldn’t be tempted to run a beta in new iPhone season, but this year of course I am. Decided I’d force myself to wait until at least next Friday before putting 18.1 on my 16PM. Hoping by then if there are any issues day to day I’ll hear about it hear on the forum and be able to decide from there.
 
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eddie24

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My process every time is to sign into the new phone, not continuing with a transfer, then updating to the latest beta version. I then factory reset the new phone and then transfer from the old one.
Yep that is sensible, and should have been my process. The eSim being transferred over and then the pin not working really caught me out. Got knows how I entered it wrong.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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15PM to 16PM. My Esim transferred perfectly, but I couldn't restore to my 16PM from the 15PM 18.1 dev backup. So I had to setup my 16PM from scratch. I never had this issue before with dev betas, so I think it's all the AI stuff that mess things up. I could have put my 16PM on dev 18.1, then restored, but I didn't want to do that with a new phone.
 

Irvin38a

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My 16PM updated to 16.1 fine during initial setup then begun restore from iCloud. That’s where it stalled. Didn’t move at all for an hour so reset phone and setup by transfer from my 15Pro and all went perfectly. Then I had to leave for night shift, along with the 15Pro rather than the 16PM 😔😂
 

JRoDDz

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So earlier today I was upgrading the iPhone 15 Pro Max to the iPhone 16 Pro Max, which was running iOS 18.1 dev beta 4.

Which is why I don't run Beta anything. It's not like they're paying you. Why should I work out their bugs?
 
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whackit

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Dec 22, 2014
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Similar issue here. Not on beta. Copying from phone. Everything seemed to go smoothly. It was stuck on "2 minutes left" for about 15 minutes. Then seemed fine. Passcode did not work - this is the passcode that was copied from my old phone (theoretically). Then of course $%#@#$% locked out of my phone for too many attempts. WTF!! Okay, well, I'll just reset it and start over. Here's the weird thing. When I went to enter my Appleid password to reset - that didn't work either!!! I was finally able to get the phone on find my and erase it which let me start the process over. I'm 3 hours into this and F'ed if I don't have a working phone tomorrow morning. Tried to use Apple support but they were more than useless and their constant "I can see you are having a password issue, you must be very frustrated" type platitudes make me even more angry. Currently at 30 minutes left on the restore - 4 hours until I need to get up. I'll report back if this works. I've seen a few others having this issue. Seems like a bug.

[UPDATE]
Okay. Erasing phone from find my worked. Just redid setup after erase. The only issue this time was it wiped my esim that had been previously updated on the new phone. Was reasonably easy to get this via a QR code on ATTs website as long as you have a 2FA setup that isn't your phone... because your phone can't receive texts. Fun!
 
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byron_hinson

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UK store said esim transfers are the biggest issue they get now with upgrades. Wish I had stuck with the SIM card last year.
 

Jackbequickly

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Only got one phone and I can/will not take a chance running a beta os. I did long time ago and had problems, learn my lesson.
 

Penny81

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Can you transfer e sim from old iPhone to new iPhone with them next to each other ?
 
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