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rickeames

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Mar 12, 2008
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Seriously. This is a graph from my MBP, sitting closed since last night when I pulled it out of my office off of the charger. Haven't opened it. I do not know how to debug this, or what to do to stop it. I want ALL ACTIVITY to stop when I put the computer to sleep. ALL OF IT. I guess to achieve this, I just have to shut it down because "sleep" doesn't mean "sleep". Most startling is the 9am to 9pm drop. Steady plummet into below 50%.

Has anyone figured this out?

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1BadManVan

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Dec 20, 2009
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Wow and this is 14 pro specific issue? Have you contacted apple regarding this? one thing apples MacBooks have going for them is their awesome standby time.
 

Basic75

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May 17, 2011
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It has become harder and harder to make a Mac sleep when you tell it to. And once it does it wakes up all the time. It's a bit annoying.
 

Fishrrman

macrumors Penryn
Feb 20, 2009
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OP wrote:
"I want ALL ACTIVITY to stop when I put the computer to sleep. ALL OF IT. I guess to achieve this, I just have to shut it down because "sleep" doesn't mean "sleep"."

You have answered your own question above.
If you're not going to be using it for a reasonably long length of time (as in, "overnight"), just shut it down.
Restart in the morning.

I've been doing this with my Macs (desktops and laptops) for 36 years now.
Works for me.
 

Honza1

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Nov 30, 2013
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Has anyone figured this out?
Sure, well known problem... there are web pages on the web dedicated to this issue. Google can help to find them. I have been solving sleep issues may be every second year over teh last 10 years. I have whole notebook page with notes and instructions, how to figure this out...

This page seems relatively useful for novices: https://www.howtogeek.com/302942/how-to-figure-out-whats-preventing-your-mac-from-sleeping/

In short - some application is running preventing sleep or you my have hardware issue. Applications can prevent system from sleeping - and you REALLY want them to be able to do it - for example if you are playing 3 hours long movie, you do not want system to fall asleep every 15 minutes or so. So any app which can play some content must be able to prevent sleep... There may also be problematic/hanging apps, drivers, background processes, or even corrupted power options. For what we know, you may have it in the background running bitcoin miner, options are nearly infinite.
It is also possible that display close sensor, which should be indicating that the display is closed, may not be working (for example of hardware issue causing this). Some Bluetooth devices (even some mice) can prevent sleep, when connected.
Basically, there are way too many possibilities for this behavior and no simple answer. Rebooting may help if it is app which hanged. That is easy to try. If that does not fix it, follow web instructions and see what you can find. Finding culprit will take time, could be hardware or software.
Powering off will surely solve the issue, but takes longer to restart (would you care?). May be easiest solution, I am afraid...
 

profcutter

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Mar 28, 2019
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Yeah, that ain’t normal. I can open my 16 inch 2 days later, and it’s still at 100 percent. Either a misbehaving piece of software or a hardware problem.
 

rickeames

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Original poster
Mar 12, 2008
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I guess I am giving Apple too much credit that when I select “sleep” I believe nothing should be able to stop that. I get it if the computer slips into sleep by itself, but if I explicitly tell the machine to go to sleep, go to effing sleep.
 

Novius89

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Nov 1, 2020
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I have the same with my M1 Pro 2020. There are a couple of threads here about it. Something to do with windowserver and or other apps that disable sleep. You can see it in activity monitor.

Thought I had the culprit a couple of times, but nope. Turns out it works for some people when you close all open windows and apps, but that’s not a solution in my eyes…. Really annoying. I had this since I upgraded to Ventura
 

maerz001

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Nov 2, 2010
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OP wrote:
"I want ALL ACTIVITY to stop when I put the computer to sleep. ALL OF IT. I guess to achieve this, I just have to shut it down because "sleep" doesn't mean "sleep"."

You have answered your own question above.
If you're not going to be using it for a reasonably long length of time (as in, "overnight"), just shut it down.
Restart in the morning.

I've been doing this with my Macs (desktops and laptops) for 36 years now.
Works for me.
U are wasting your time with shut downs. I restart my macs maybe 5 times a year. Im talking about 20 years of usage.

If your mac is configured correctly there is no need to shut it down.

I guess some app is the issue. Check energy impact under activity monitor
 

Queen6

macrumors G4
Easy answer just shut it down as these M1 Mac's open all apps on boot. is potentially a bug in the OS or more likely a 3rd party application. Activity Monitor energy will reveal apps that stop the Mac going into deep sleep. That's the answer to your problem.

From my experience this is not an Apple issue. My own M1 MBP sleeps peaceably, yet off is off. Your problem is a 3rd party app is stopping the deep sleep process...

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Queen6

macrumors G4
U are wasting your time with shut downs. I restart my macs maybe 5 times a year. Im talking about 20 years of usage.

If your mac is configured correctly there is no need to shut it down.

I guess some app is the issue. Check energy impact under activity monitor
I've an M1 for the serious work, but my creaking very stock 2011 15" MBP is only ever shutdown when we move house. It's been up for literally years on end as its our media sever. It just goes & goes, but the battery is shot. That said at over 11 years old it's a value purchase to say the least.

Only reason I shutdown my M1 is to save on battery cycles as in sleep they are still connected. Activity Monitor energy is the solution the OP's issue as some apps can and do override the OS as the user has given permission LOL.

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