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QueenMadge

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jan 16, 2006
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I just bought a iMac today. Is there anything I should know about before it arrives to make the switching process easier from my crappy Toshiba laptop to the new Mac? I should say that my particular laptop is crappy, probably not all Toshibas, especially as I am passing it on to my husband.lol

Thank you for any tips you can give me. I have not used a Mac since the late 80's.

Margot
 

ncoffey

macrumors regular
Feb 18, 2005
106
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Congratulations on your new purchase... The basics are pretty easy to figure out, safari is for web browsing, mail is for e-mail, if you need an instant messaging application I would recommend Adium (http://www.adiumx.com), and if you have any specific questions don't hesitate to ask. Did you order one of the intel iMacs? If so then you might be a little bit of a guinea pig for third party applications like Adium. (although they should still work)
 

QueenMadge

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jan 16, 2006
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Yes it is one of the intel iMacs

I wanted something that won't take up a huge amount of space as I have a very tiny desk at home to work on. I didn't need a laptop at this point so decided the iMac would be a better fit. I am not sure what the intel-ness means, and frankly since I'm not a technophile I don't know if I want to!:). I just want something I don't have to send in four times a year to get repaired because it wasn't designed right in the first place....can you tell I'm tired of my Satellite Pro?

Thank you.

Margot
 

discoforce

macrumors 6502a
Jan 27, 2004
575
0
Vermont, USA
Welcome back!

Regarding what you can do before your computer arrives:

1. I think finding this site was a great first step.

2. You may want to check out this guide. It answers a lot of general questions about using Macs.

3. Apple's website has info on those making the switch (e.g., from a hated Toshiba to a glorious iMac).

4. Buy Apple Care if you haven't already. Macs work great, but they can still have problems. Nothing burns that happy-mac-feelings like hearing you're 3 days out of warranty.

QueenMadge said:
I am not sure what the intel-ness means, and frankly since I'm not a technophile I don't know if I want to!:).

Well if you change your mind you can always read this.
 

à la Mac

macrumors newbie
Jan 17, 2006
4
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QueenMadge said:
I wanted something that won't take up a huge amount of space as I have a very tiny desk at home to work on. I didn't need a laptop at this point so decided the iMac would be a better fit. I am not sure what the intel-ness means, and frankly since I'm not a technophile I don't know if I want to!:). I just want something I don't have to send in four times a year to get repaired because it wasn't designed right in the first place....can you tell I'm tired of my Satellite Pro?

Thank you.

Margot

Check "About this Mac" at the Apple menu, wich is located left of the menu bar.
 

QueenMadge

macrumors newbie
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Jan 16, 2006
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Thank you, yes I bought applecare. The extended

warranty is the only thing that saved me with the class action lawsuit model toshiba...grrrr.

I've checked some of the beginner's guide stuff here as well. I will read the suggested link for technophiledom later;-).

Thank you so much for the help. I have an 18 year old son who is takeing some computer classes in highschool to become a p.c. repair person. He (his teacher too) do not think much of the higher price tags on mac machines and I don't want him to have the opportunity to give me a bad time. I think also my husband will not thank me if I ever let him use my Mac.lol He really is a computer novice and gets very frustrated when the pc won't do what it did the last time and wont do what he wants it to do. I will let him use the iMac eventually.....hehe

Margot
 

Ashapalan

macrumors 6502a
Apr 17, 2005
543
0
England
QueenMadge said:
warranty is the only thing that saved me with the class action lawsuit model toshiba...grrrr.

I've checked some of the beginner's guide stuff here as well. I will read the suggested link for technophiledom later;-).

Thank you so much for the help. I have an 18 year old son who is takeing some computer classes in highschool to become a p.c. repair person. He (his teacher too) do not think much of the higher price tags on mac machines and I don't want him to have the opportunity to give me a bad time. I think also my husband will not thank me if I ever let him use my Mac.lol He really is a computer novice and gets very frustrated when the pc won't do what it did the last time and wont do what he wants it to do. I will let him use the iMac eventually.....hehe

Margot

the imacs are good value i think. Perhaps the laptops are higher.
 

iEdd

macrumors 68000
Aug 8, 2005
1,956
4
QueenMadge said:
I think also my husband will not thank me if I ever let him use my Mac.lol He really is a computer novice and gets very frustrated when the pc won't do what it did the last time and wont do what he wants it to do.
All the more reason for him to get a mac too. :p They just work. Also the iMac is by far the greatest value in the mac lineup, your son surely won't see it as poor value.
 

law guy

macrumors 6502a
Jan 17, 2003
999
-1
Western Massachusetts
QueenMadge said:
I just bought a iMac today. Is there anything I should know about before it arrives to make the switching process easier from my crappy Toshiba laptop to the new Mac? I should say that my particular laptop is crappy, probably not all Toshibas, especially as I am passing it on to my husband.lol

Thank you for any tips you can give me. I have not used a Mac since the late 80's.

Margot

Keep your mac away from open flames and have fun ::)
 

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nagromme

macrumors G5
May 2, 2002
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Yes :) some things you should know:

1. Drag your Applications folder to your Dock (after the divider line). It will now work like your start menu. Just right-click it instead of left (if you have two-button clicking enabled). I also recommend moving your Dock to the left side--out of the way of all scrollbars.

2. Customize! Look through everything in System Preferences, and in every app's own Preferences, and in every app's View menu. Lots of powerful choices.

3. Try the option key. Option clicking is a common shortcut that does different things. Option-drag a file in Finder to make it Copy. (Or Command-Option drag to make a shortcut.)

4. Command-Shift-3 to take screen shots, saved to your desktop. (Or advanced mode: Command-Shift-4. Now drag a box around what you want--OR control-drag to Copy instead of saving to desktop.)

5. Drag-and-drop. Just about anything on the Mac can be done this way. Click and HOLD on selected text before you drag, and you can drag the text to another program or even to your desktop. Drag the "clipping" back later--it's like copy and paste. And lots of apps have other uses for dragging an icon or file from one place to another. (Click and hold on the littly "proxy icon" in a document's title bar, and it's like you are dragging the whole file: you can even move an open document to another folder that way.)

6. Command-click in a document's title bar (or Finder window title). Bingo--instant path. Select and go.

7. Use Exposé Show All Windows. Put it somewhere easy like on your lower-left screen corner or your middle (scroller) mouse button. A lifesaver for switching windows. And windows in Exposé are still live and changing: you can use this to keep an eye on several apps at once.

8. http://versiontracker.com for downloadable software.

9. TextEdit (in your Applications folder) can Open and Save Microsoft Word documents (if not too complexly formatted).

10. Ask here for help anytime. And welcome to Mac! :)

Note re price: Macs don't cost more anymore. If you find a name brand PC cheaper, it's a pretty sure bet it is missing something expensive that the Mac comes with. People like to look at one or two obvious specs and assume the other features must be alike too. Not so--the devil is in the details, and Macs are LOADED, from hardware I/O to quiet design, to great software bundle. (You can however get a name-brand PC cheaper than a Mac: you can get a really stripped down, poorly-equipped model. Apple doesn't offer anything that low-end, just the $499 Mac Mini.) And of course Macs have no viruses yet, and that's not likely to change very much.
 

QueenMadge

macrumors newbie
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Jan 16, 2006
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Its shipped! lol I can't wait til it gets here.

Neither can our youngest son, He gets the handed down family p.c.;-).

Just a few more days.......
 

omeletpants

macrumors 6502
Oct 21, 2005
397
164
QueenMadge said:
I just bought a iMac today. Is there anything I should know about before it arrives to make the switching process easier from my crappy Toshiba laptop to the new Mac? I should say that my particular laptop is crappy, probably not all Toshibas, especially as I am passing it on to my husband.lol

Thank you for any tips you can give me. I have not used a Mac since the late 80's.

Margot

I recently switched from a PC and I would say the following:

-You will have to deal with iPhoto which is a terrible program. Incredibly slow and pictures disappear or are grayed-out for no reason.

-I like that OSX allows you to move things around with ease. Between the web, your desktop and programs.

-Whatever you do don't buy iMac. Support is email only (no phone). So, if you have an email problem you are screwed. Takes them very long times to fix resolve an issue even on common errors listed on Apple's website

-It's great not to have to deal with viruses an Mac eliminates that

-Websites often don't render well on a Mac and if you use Windows for Mac everything defaults to about a 3 pt pica setting. Even after you adjust, the settings will change themselves. It's bizzare. BTW, forget about WYSIWYG when printing. A lot of adjustments need to be made and you can print from the same source and have two different results. Also this suite of products looks like it was written on an etch-e-sketch, pretty primative.

-The iMac G5 is slick and seems like reliable hardware.

-iTunes does everything I need
 

samanthas

macrumors regular
Sep 21, 2005
170
5
Portland, OR
I assume you mean AppleCare, not iMac? Because that makes no sense. And AppleCare DOES have phone support, so I have no idea where you got the email only thing from.
 

ldenman

macrumors regular
Jul 20, 2005
229
0
omeletpants said:
I recently switched from a PC and I would say the following:

-You will have to deal with iPhoto which is a terrible program. Incredibly slow and pictures disappear or are grayed-out for no reason.

-I like that OSX allows you to move things around with ease. Between the web, your desktop and programs.

-Whatever you do don't buy iMac. Support is email only (no phone). So, if you have an email problem you are screwed. Takes them very long times to fix resolve an issue even on common errors listed on Apple's website

-It's great not to have to deal with viruses an Mac eliminates that

-Websites often don't render well on a Mac and if you use Windows for Mac everything defaults to about a 3 pt pica setting. Even after you adjust, the settings will change themselves. It's bizzare. BTW, forget about WYSIWYG when printing. A lot of adjustments need to be made and you can print from the same source and have two different results. Also this suite of products looks like it was written on an etch-e-sketch, pretty primative.

-The iMac G5 is slick and seems like reliable hardware.

-iTunes does everything I need
Most of the things stated above need to be disregarded. For instance, the print thing...I don't know about anyone else, but My iMac prints fine. If you are having problems, don't blame it on the iMac. Blame it on yourself for not having correct drivers.
Don't Knock iPhoto because YOU don't know how to operate it. iPhoto is an awesome program and there is no reason to misguide a new mac user.
I won't go into "iMac care" because the user above me already said something.
Websites don't Render right? OOOOKKKKKK...what browser are you using? Internet Explorer? Ridiculous.

Queenie, don't listen to this dude. He/she obviously hasn't had enough experience.
 

law guy

macrumors 6502a
Jan 17, 2003
999
-1
Western Massachusetts
I'm not sure what's going on with omeletpant's system, but to put you at ease, I think you can discount the issues identified as others have stated. In particular, I wanted to note:

omeletpants said:
-You will have to deal with iPhoto which is a terrible program. Incredibly slow and pictures disappear or are grayed-out for no reason.

iPhoto is a wonderful program in my experience with it over the last several years - I've always been blown away by it and it just keeps getting better. Mine has several thousand pictures in the library and is very fast on both my G4 PM and G4 PB.. I've never had issues with a picture either disappearing or being grayed-out... or any other issues with iPhoto for that matter.


omeletpants said:
-Websites often don't render well on a Mac and if you use Windows for Mac everything defaults to about a 3 pt pica setting. Even after you adjust, the settings will change themselves. It's bizzare. BTW, forget about WYSIWYG when printing. A lot of adjustments need to be made and you can print from the same source and have two different results. Also this suite of products looks like it was written on an etch-e-sketch, pretty primative.

I've never had a problem with Safari, Netscape or Explorer displaying on or printing from my Macs. HP 5150 inkjet, Dell 3100cn color laser, and HP 2100n B&W laser all print just fine - exactly WYSIWYG.
 

omeletpants

macrumors 6502
Oct 21, 2005
397
164
Meant to say .Mac not iMac. .Mac doesn't have phone support. Last week I was prevented from sending email for 6 days because I violated .Mac's rule of 100 recipients on an email message. Ok, so it takes them six days to reset my permissions, Can't talk to them on the phone and you can't email them directly ot respond to their email because they use phoney addresses. So, I had to open a new case each time I wanted to communicate with them. They denied they were restricting sending email even those I provided them with the error messages they were sending. Just outrageously poor service.

Go to the Apple support forum and you will see many posts about photos disappearing or "greying out" on iPhoto. In my case had 700 photos one day and the next day 400 photos even though I did nothing to manipulate the program. Another problem area is scrolling speed, which is a documented problem on the Apple support boards (I have 1gb memory). Of course, no one can provide any solutions, they just acknowledge the problem.

What really galls me is the lack of operator's manuals not provided with the product. Apple arrogantly assumes that everyone knows the Apple conventions, file structures, etc.

I noticed that none of you commented on Mac features I think are great. Apple users don't take any criticism of the product very well.
 

VelvetElegance

macrumors regular
Jan 20, 2006
151
0
Atlanta, GA
One more thing...

Congrats on your new iMac. I just bought mine last week as well and am still learning to work out the kinks. One thing you should know about your new Intel iMac is that it currently does not support Flash or Shockwave. When you visit a site that displays flash, you will be prompted to the Macromedia page to download your plugins and once you do this, you will find your problem has not been resolved. I spent the better part of Friday night researching any viable workarounds and as of yet there arent any. I just loaded a flash-loaded page using IE.. I know "who wants to use IE". Also, you could try using Firefox. I haven't gotten to that part yet but I will eventually. Until then, I'm looking for Macromedia to post a fix.

Hope that helps
 

Artful Dodger

macrumors 68020
Hi and welcome to MR :)
Try this book for the iLife Apps. as it comes with a dvd as well for us that learn a tad better by watching ;)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321426541/qid=1138068839/sr=8-7/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i7_xgl14/103-3460554-3021452?n=507846&s=books&v=glance

This should help you out a lot until you get the hang of things in some of the iLife apps. It's very well written with two hours of dvd as well.

I think everyone else has great advice for you and don't worry you can correct most of what you do if you have to so enjoy :)
 

law guy

macrumors 6502a
Jan 17, 2003
999
-1
Western Massachusetts
omeletpants said:
Apple users don't take any criticism of the product very well.

I think folks were correcting statements they didn't think were accurate rather than responding to criticism. - For example, it really wouldn't be great if iPhoto was slow and lost photos, or if Macs didn't print well in general. If that were the case, you'd certainly have something to criticize. It seems you've described some problems with your system that others don't have and so I didn't want the person who started this thread to have the impression that those are commonly experienced problems.
 

QueenMadge

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jan 16, 2006
18
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No worries. I am prepared for a "re-learning" curve.

I don't expect to not run into any glitches....this is a new machine to me and a new machine for apple. As with anything we buy there are often unit "defects" things that don't work the way they are supposed to or perhaps don't work at all. I have paid for the extended warranty thing....my pc laptop taught me that was a good thing. I am not impatient as far as dealing with customer support etc. Not even with my Toshiba, when sending it back for the fourth time in one year, and finding out it was a design flaw....not happy, but it is not the customer service reps. fault is it?

I have numerous Mac forums bookmarked and I know I can get help from experienced users if and when necessary.

I may not have the "trouble" some of you have because I am not as technically literate as it seems most of you are. I have not had any computer programming experience, don't know what bios means and most of the other technical jargon that is exchanged goes way over my head so I will probably not be pushing my mac the same way I can and do push my spinning wheel's ability...lol I am a low tech girl and don't want to expand that anytime soon. Thank you for the information both positive and negative. It all is information and that will help.

Margot
 

GimmeSlack12

macrumors 603
Apr 29, 2005
5,406
13
San Francisco
Once you get the iMac, to really get your husbands goat (assuming he still hates it when things don't "work").

Show him how easy the iMac prints.

Step One) plug USB cable into iMac.
Step Two) Hit the Print button.

(notice there is nothing to do with drivers or software hassles, cause it's all ready to go, built-in, and fantastic! iPhoto works the same for any digital camera)

Oh the first time you start up the machine is pretty classy too. I'll save the details for you to find out.
 
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