I think this forum is counter productive - very few posts here about transition to Apple Silicon

[steve217]

Out of 52 posts on this forum page, I see maybe 4 threads that have anything to do with Apple's transition to their own native processors.

Mod's - is there anything to be done about this forum? The stated topic itself is important but I think the discussion has dried up and this forum has become sort of a grab bag of any issue with any M1 machine.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

If you give me a new M1 Macbook, I will write a lot of posts on the subject!

 

[hardwickj]

I'm not sure what it is you're looking for but I don't think it coincides with what the average user of this forum is here for. From a cursory glance, I'd argue the majority of threads are about some issue with (or question regarding) users recent change to Apple Silicon. Whether it's issues with external displays (lots of these issues with both Monterey 12.2 and M1 Macs), excessive swapping (this has been a consistent concern of M1 owners from what I've seen), or performance questions (there's a pretty big performance differential between Intel and Apple CPU's and people have questions), they all sound pretty appropriate to me.

 

[thenewperson]

Well, the focus of the forum would obviously shift once the transition actually started. It's basically a catch-all for everything related to ASi Macs now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Wando64]

I couldn't agree more with the OP.
I made exactly the same point a few months ago but it encountered resistance from mods.

As it is now everything is everywhere. There might as well just be a huge big forum with everything in it as there is no logic as to where you can find stuff, or indeed post it.

 

[Wando64]

I'm not sure what it is you're looking for but I don't think it coincides with what the average user of this forum is here for. From a cursory glance, I'd argue the majority of threads are about some issue with (or question regarding) users recent change to Apple Silicon. Whether it's issues with external displays (lots of these issues with both Monterey 12.2 and M1 Macs), excessive swapping (this has been a consistent concern of M1 owners from what I've seen), or performance questions (there's a pretty big performance differential between Intel and Apple CPU's and people have questions), they all sound pretty appropriate to me.

In fairness, right now most recent posts seem to be on topic.

The problem is that when someone is experiencing a problem on an M1 mac often the problem is actually caused by Big Sur or Monterey, so actually not an M1 specific issue at all. e.g. memory leaks, SSD swaps, etc...

 

[spiderman0616]

It seems to depend on the day, but I've had a lot of good discussions with people here about Apple Silicon pretty consistently. I think it's worth keeping around.

 

[Allyance]

Mine works great, have no complaints nor comments.

 

[steve217]

I'm not sure what it is you're looking for but I don't think it coincides with what the average user of this forum is here for. From a cursory glance, I'd argue the majority of threads are about some issue with (or question regarding) users recent change to Apple Silicon. Whether it's issues with external displays (lots of these issues with both Monterey 12.2 and M1 Macs), excessive swapping (this has been a consistent concern of M1 owners from what I've seen), or performance questions (there's a pretty big performance differential between Intel and Apple CPU's and people have questions), they all sound pretty appropriate to me.

I was expecting more of a high level discussion about the architectural transition.

If it's about an individual experience when someone buys an M1, then yeah, that's what's mostly being posted here.

 

[spiderman0616]

I was expecting more of a high level discussion about the architectural transition.

If it's about an individual experience when someone buys an M1, then yeah, that's what's mostly being posted here.

For me personally, the title doesn't really make this clear. I already think the M1 Macs are mind-blowing and don't really need anyone to sell me on them, but I don't hate talking about how much I like them with people either.

I also prefer the techier side of the discussion, just because I like to know if there are any advantages I can gain by upgrading, but that's just not the norm for the common computer user anymore.

 

[Bodhitree]

Well most of the transition is invisible to users. You get the same macos, with the same standard apps, and most of the old stuff runs under rosetta.

Even on a coding level, the languages and the API’s have stayed the same, only the compiler and linker and associated bits have changed.

 

[Freeangel1]

On an M1 if it is not a software Issue not much you can do or say. It's all system on a chip. The whole system.

Have you opened up an M1 Mac mini??

 

[ADGrant]

I was expecting more of a high level discussion about the architectural transition.

If it's about an individual experience when someone buys an M1, then yeah, that's what's mostly being posted here.

I think what is needed is individual forums for the new Macs. There are already forums for individual Mac models but they should perhaps separated into Intel and Apple Silicon forums. The M1 Mac mini for example has very little in common with the Intel Mac mini except for the case and power supply. The M1 iMac has even less in common with the 27" Intel iMac. They are both AIOs running MacOS but completely different computers otherwise.

 

[Sheepish-Lord]

I was expecting more of a high level discussion about the architectural transition.

If it's about an individual experience when someone buys an M1, then yeah, that's what's mostly being posted here.

I would argue that there's not much discussion to be had since many people are not well versed in chip development, logistics, engineering, or in depth knowledge about Apple's plans. Most "normal" programs built for x86 are translated using Rosetta and the rest are either native or slowly becoming native so it's hard to have high level discussions when folks have limited knowledge or the things they do/use daily work perfectly fine.

 

[lcubed]

this thread is contrary to the exchange of knowledge on the issues associated with the transition of macs to Apple Silicon.

 

[LeeW]

Whilst out in the garden a few months back my neighbour shouted me over to tell me that he bought the new MBA with the Intel M1 Chip in it. That is how much a lot of people care or are interested in the transition.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Most people simply don't care

"It's faster?"
"Great!"

That's about it..

 

[06tb06]

Most people simply don't care

"It's faster?"
"Great!"

That's about it..

This pretty much sums up most consumers.

I once cared solely about speeds and feeds when I was younger, and still do to a certain degree. But now as I grow older I realize I really just want something that works. It's that simple. Spend time focusing on other aspects of my life.

 

[cmaier]

I was expecting more of a high level discussion about the architectural transition.

If it's about an individual experience when someone buys an M1, then yeah, that's what's mostly being posted here.

There are other places to talk about such things

 

[satcomer]

Out of 52 posts on this forum page, I see maybe 4 threads that have anything to do with Apple's transition to their own native processors.

Mod's - is there anything to be done about this forum? The stated topic itself is important but I think the discussion has dried up and this forum has become sort of a grab bag of any issue with any M1 machine.

First consult the wiki of first silicon forum here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/universal-and-native-apple-silicon-apps.2267176/

 

[jinnyman]

Just like before, Macrumors should open up Intel Mac forum and make all current sub forums to ASi only. The transition itself is not yet completed as iMac high end, Mac mini high end and Mac Pro remain to be changed. Perhaps when all of them transit to ASi, they should implement the forum change.

 

[Bug-Creator]

There are already forums for individual Mac models but they should perhaps separated into Intel and Apple Silicon forums.

Just like before, Macrumors should open up Intel Mac forum and make all current sub forums to ASi only.

Splitting forums into ever smaller sub-sections would only make things worse as almost every thread would be valid for several different ones.

It is also far too early to put everything Intel into it's own "retro" sections. Thats (IMO) something that should wait till Intel Mac are dropped from macOS.

What might be a good idea is to add prefixes/tags so one can see at 1st glance if it is AS or Intel.

 

[MayaUser]

Out of 52 posts on this forum page, I see maybe 4 threads that have anything to do with Apple's transition to their own native processors.

Mod's - is there anything to be done about this forum? The stated topic itself is important but I think the discussion has dried up and this forum has become sort of a grab bag of any issue with any M1 machine.

So you complain about something and you make another topic about that something ?
This is the definition of hypocrisy
There are so many informative topics out there about M1 macs...just ignore the non-M1 related

 

[LeeW]

Most people simply don't care

"It's faster?"
"Great!"

That's about it..

Absolutely, I mean I get this is an Apple forum but what is there to discuss for the majority of users? Nothing as long as it does what they need. Also, don't forget that whilst I am sure the M1 devices are selling well the majority are still on Intel so are probably watching but not caring too much at this stage.

Actually, the lack of posts about the transition is a testament to how well Apple handled it. For the majority, it was just business as usual.

 

[Basic75]

I have a 2021 16" M1 MacBook Pro and am very happy with it. Not much to say. MagSafe? Great! Function keys? Great! More screen real estate? Great! Battery Life? Great!