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pianodude123

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Ok, here's the deal:

For christmas, my uncle and my dad want to buy a new computer for my grandfather. My dad asked me what kind of computer we should get for him. I instantly replied "Imac G5". Since my dad is a bit closed minded, and he has never used a mac before (our whole family is long time windows users, except for me:p ) and he doesnt want to get him one of those "fruity" computers. The price range they want to spend is from around $900-1000, which is slightly too much for an imac, but they want an All-in-one. My uncle is afraid that if he were to have problems with it (which he wouldn't have) I would be the only one who could help him with it. I usually have to help him removing spyware off his dell, or help install drivers for his printer. He is also afraid of compatibility, and whether it would be hard to use...:cool:

So....basically, I;m wondering whether the imac would be the best choice (which of course you're going to say yes) and how I can prove to the stubborn ruler to get the imac instead of a comparable IBM desktop.
 

risc

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Jul 23, 2004
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Your sig says you have a Power Mac G5 already if that isn't enough to convince your father nothing is, get a PC! Personally I believe the current iMac G5 is an amazing machine and plenty of people will agree with me, but none of us are paying for your grandfathers.
 

Seasought

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pianodude123 said:
For christmas, my uncle and my dad want to buy a new computer for my grandfather. My dad asked me what kind of computer we should get for him. I instantly replied "Imac G5". Since my dad is a bit closed minded, and he has never used a mac before (our whole family is long time windows users, except for me ) and he doesnt want to get him one of those "fruity" computers.

I guess the best advice would be to keep finding ways to convince your dad that a Mac would be a better idea. Perhaps bring up the issue of spyware...run a scan on his computer and, after removing all of the spyware, make a comment about that not being a problem for your Mac.

You might want to memorize some statistics on the average number of viruses found on Macs vs PCs and make a point to say that you will be helping your grandfather with any problems he has (thus showing that the responsibility falls on your shoulders if problems should arise). If you want to get more aggressive state that you don't want to waste your grandfather's time with having to remove thousands of spyware, browser hijacks, worms, trojans and viruses from Windows.

Sounds like a difficult venture given your Dad's distaste for Macs. Good luck.
 

pianodude123

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risc said:
Your sig says you have a Power Mac G5 already if that isn't enough to convince your father nothing is, get a PC! Personally I believe the current iMac G5 is an amazing machine and plenty of people will agree with me, but none of us are paying for your grandfathers.


I never asked for you to pay for it, I just asked for things similar to the apple switch section, like the powermac intro video...anything like that?
 

risc

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pianodude123 said:
I never asked for you to pay for it, I just asked for things similar to the apple switch section, like the powermac intro video...anything like that?

If you want video have a look at the keynote where Steve Jobs intros the new iMac, if he can't sell it no one can. I still don't get the point you have a Mac there, your father considers it "fruity" how can we change his mind? You have the hardware he should know how it runs.

BTW you didn't once ask for anything ;) You asked us to provide you with proof that Macs are nice computers you have 1 get your father to use it for 2 minutes.
 

FFTT

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Apr 17, 2004
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I've spent quite some time tutoring several senior citizens, both with and without previous computer experience.

Those with previous Windows experience are amazed at how much easier
and trouble free their computer experience has become.

One had spent several hundred dollars with Geeks while on fixed income to help her remove all the spyware, adware and viruses off her 1 year old
p/c.

After I helped her with a general orientation set-up on her new mini, she was good to go and never required any help that couldn't be answered in an e-mail.

Another friend at age 62 had never used a computer before.
Now he is quite proficient and delighted with his 15" PowerBook.

In fact his friends marvel at the fact that he never has any problems.
That includes his new sweetheart that he met online.

One of his best friends is a high level Windows administrator who is constantly amazed with his old friend's capabilities.

So amazed that he is purchasing a G5 for himself.

After 20+ years running Windows networks and servers, he is thoroughly convinced that OS X is by far a superior platform to anything he has worked with.
 

Seasought

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FFTT said:
After 20+ years running Windows networks and servers, he is thoroughly convinced that OS X is by far a superior platform to anything he has worked with.

It's difficult to compete with an example like that.
:D
 

gnasher729

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pianodude123 said:
My uncle is afraid that if he were to have problems with it (which he wouldn't have) I would be the only one who could help him with it.

Very simple. Tell him: If grandad has problems with the Mac, you will be the only one to help him. If he has problems with a Windows PC, you will be the only one who will _not_ lift a finger to help him.
 

generik

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gnasher729 said:
Very simple. Tell him: If grandad has problems with the Mac, you will be the only one to help him. If he has problems with a Windows PC, you will be the only one who will _not_ lift a finger to help him.

Doesn't that mean you won't need to help him ever? :rolleyes:
 

bi0metric

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Nov 21, 2005
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pianodude123 said:
Ok, here's the deal:

For christmas, my uncle and my dad want to buy a new computer for my grandfather. My dad asked me what kind of computer we should get for him. I instantly replied "Imac G5". Since my dad is a bit closed minded, and he has never used a mac before (our whole family is long time windows users, except for me:p ) and he doesnt want to get him one of those "fruity" computers. The price range they want to spend is from around $900-1000, which is slightly too much for an imac, but they want an All-in-one. My uncle is afraid that if he were to have problems with it (which he wouldn't have) I would be the only one who could help him with it. I usually have to help him removing spyware off his dell, or help install drivers for his printer. He is also afraid of compatibility, and whether it would be hard to use...:cool:

So....basically, I;m wondering whether the imac would be the best choice (which of course you're going to say yes) and how I can prove to the stubborn ruler to get the imac instead of a comparable IBM desktop.

I had the same problem with my parents! I was thinking about buying them a mac. They have a older pc with windows xp home. But I was thinking it might be better for them to just keep what they have because they are used to it. But hey if he wan't an apple get him an apple!
 

gnasher729

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Since it is for your grandfather...

One thing you should check out before buying a computer, any computer, for your grandfather, is how good his eyesight is and what kind of monitor is the best.

He might be better off with a Mac Mini and a good 19 inch LCD screen (1280 x 1024) with bigger pixels. With a decent amount of memory it makes a good machine; maybe not for video editing if he is impatient :)
 

FFTT

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Apr 17, 2004
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I just bought my daughter a refurbed 1.33 GHz/512/Scroll Track Pad/9550/AP BT 12" iBook for $799.

I'm adding 1 GB of RAM and she's set for the next 4 years heading off to college.

If your Grandfather has good vision, this would be a wonderful gift allowing
him the freedom to use it anywhere he goes.

If he's more of a home body, then a well equipped mini with a good display
would give him the same performance with a much larger display for not much more.

If you can swing the difference, the 17"WS iMac is by far the best ready to go configuration Apple has offered in years for $1199 education price.

Apple is also now offering up to a 50% rebate on MS Office with any Mac
purchased.

Your family should be impressed that you care that much about your Grandfather.
 
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