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meet102

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Sep 25, 2020
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hi there, In settings>icloud>icloud drive , there is an option to turn on icloud for iwork apps that are pages,nuumbers,and keynote so i wanted to what is the meaning of turning that on /off because in the latest versions of these apps we can browse and select the place where we want to create that document. and in my case my icloud for these appss is turned off still i can save these documents to there app specific folder in icloud drive.
please explain the whole concept.
kindly,
Meet.
 
hi there, In settings>icloud>icloud drive , there is an option to turn on icloud for iwork apps that are pages,nuumbers,and keynote so i wanted to what is the meaning of turning that on /off because in the latest versions of these apps we can browse and select the place where we want to create that document. and in my case my icloud for these appss is turned off still i can save these documents to there app specific folder in icloud drive.
please explain the whole concept.
kindly,
Meet.
Using iCloud makes your documents accessible on other devices and on icloud.com in a browser. They would also be part of your device's iCloud backup.
 
Using iCloud makes your documents accessible on other devices and on icloud.com in a browser. They would also be part of your device's iCloud backup.
Yes, but what I am experiencing is that even if my iCloud for these apps is turned off still I am able to create documents in iCloud drive.
Please help.
 
I wonder if you're confusing what you can view and do in the Files app with iCloud Drive. Turning on iCloud Drive makes your iCloud Drive visible as a location in the Files app. Some apps, including iWork apps, allow you to set the default save location to On My [device] or iCloud.

For example, if you have Settings > Pages > Document Storage set to On my [device] (and not iCloud), you can view those documents in the Files app in the On My [device] location.

Is this what seems to be happening? If so, that is completely normal.
 
I wonder if this Apple support article about iCloud Drive might be helpful to you:

Thanks for your time. but 1 last thing, in document storage even if I select iCloud drive as save location still when I open the app I get an option to where to create that document ethier on my phone or on iCloud drive.
Please have a look at the attachment you will get whatI wanna say.
Please do reply to me.
I am really tensed about it. I just bought this iPhone 11 pro before 2months.

 
If I understand your question correctly, you are asking why can you create and save a document in either On My iPhone or iCloud Drive when the Pages setting for document storage is set to one or the other. If that is your question, the answer is that setting is for the default location. As long as you have iCloud Drive enabled, you will see it as a location you can save to. The only way not to see iCloud Drive as a save location is to turn it off.
 
Yes you understood it now. Thank you so much you cleared my half doubt.
I want to know that if you are saying that if iCloud is turned on for this apps only thenI can see there app specific folders in iCloud drive and the settings for documents storage is whereI want to store my documents as default. Right ? That is what you explained above?
 
From what I can tell, if you saved a document in iCloud Drive, and then turn off iCloud for that app, the app-specific folder will still be displayed in iCloud Drive because that document is still saved there. Does that help?
 
In other words, if you turn off iCloud for that app, it won't delete what you had saved in iCloud Drive for that app.
 
Ohk perfect. That means for the first time we need to set up iCloud for those apps so that there app specific folders can be displayed in iCloud drive.
Once set up then it doesn't matter if iCloud is turned on/off.
I amI correct.
And thank you for you replies and time.
Kindly.
Meet.
 
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Part of this has to do with supporting historical practices. The Files app is relatively new. Before Files there was iCloud Drive, but pre-iCloud Drive, the only way to save an iWorks document to iCloud in iOS (or documents from any app that uses iCloud) was to enable that app individually in iCloud settings. To this day, the app-specific default folders in iCloud Drive are created the first time that app is enabled in Settings > iCloud.

That original iCloud approach of app-specific folders also echoed the sandboxed data structure in iOS - each app's data is stored within that app's sandbox/silo/container. The natural extension of that was to duplicate it in iCloud - sandboxed on iPhone = sandboxed in iCloud.

Today, Files app and iCloud Drive gives us more options. As long as iCloud Drive is enabled in iCloud Settings you can access iCloud in the Files app and access any folder that's ever been created there or create new, regardless of whether that app's enabled individually in iCloud Settings.

You can certainly create your own Pages folder (or call it whatever you wish), but someone who has been using Pages since before the Files app existed already has that default folder. Plenty of people are accustomed to the historic default arrangement and don't bother with Files on a day-to-day basis.

Files and iCloud Drive exist in part to satisfy the traditionalists who must create and manage folder structures of their own design (obviously, anyone can benefit from that flexibility). Being "forced" into an app-specific default folder was totally unsatisfactory to them, and they complained bitterly (some still complain, but they have less to complain about). But different people have different requirements and habits. For many, a system that, by default, puts all documents created by a particular app into an app-specific folder is more than they would have done on their own, and therefore can actually be beneficial to organizing their data.

So, old practices and settings continue to be supported. No doubt, should Apple decide to dispense with those historic, app-specific toggles they'll have to create an app-specific folder in some other way. And undoubtedly there will be some who complain that the toggles have been removed. Such is life.
 
Thanks man , that is what I wanted to hear. Absolutely perfect answer. Thank you so much. Hey can I get your Instagram ID. I cannot express , you just removed a big confusion from my mind. From many days.
Thanks.
Meet.
 
How does OS X / iCloud drive know that there are apps that have this iCloud drive feature built-in even though the user has not even launched the application itself once?

How does it work? iCloud adds the software programm automatically. Does iCloud "scan" everything I put in the
folder "Applications"?

How does the banana tech work? iCloud could at least ask me if I want to put all my data on iCloud or if I do prefer to keep my stuff on my own hdd or ssd? Yes? No?

If China decided to move iCloud servers to China. Could Europe also say, we want the data to be hosted
within the data territory of Europe?

Regards,

BLACK BARON
Design / Photo / Art / Music
 
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