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If it’s not an M3 Max it’s not a MacBook Pro

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TheRealAlex

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Good luck doing work with anything less than an M3 Max. All the other M3’s have half the memory bandwidth and less Performance Cores. Or limited to 18GB of RAM vs 36GB I won’t even mention the 18 Core GPU vs the 30 Core GPU.

I’ve never seen such a huge leap in SKU’s or gap in features performance wise and still being called the same product.
So no matter what you ordered or think you will own it’s NOT a MacBook Pro, unless it has an M3 Max chip.
 
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dude...this is like...just a little bit insane, no?...I'm with ya that the "Pro" tier chip is kind of a let down in relation to the gains of the base and the Max....but the M3 Pro is literally slightly faster than the M2 Max in multicore, and even more so in single core. The true number of people that absolutely need the kind of performance the full tilt Max offers is so incredibly tiny...so yea, idk why u think the Base and Pro aren't "professional"
 
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Macalway

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What gets me is the transistor count. The max is like around 91 billion, the pro around 36? And the base is what, 18, 19?

It's like there're 3 completely different chips, never mind the benchmarks. The argument about need is sound, but it helps to know what you are buying.
 
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Macalway said:
What gets me is the transistor count. The max is like around 91 billion, the pro around 36? And the base is what, 18, 19?

It's like there're 3 completely different chips, never mind the benchmarks. The argument about need is sound, but it helps to know what you are buying.
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Well, nothing new.
M3 is like saying Intel 12 gen.
It designs the generation / model year of the hardware you are getting.
Then you have different sets of power requirement, and cores via binning.
 
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TheRealAlex said:
Good luck doing work with anything less than an M3 Max. All the other M3’s have half the memory bandwidth and less Performance Cores. Or limited to 18GB of RAM vs 36GB I won’t even mention the 18 Core GPU vs the 30 Core GPU.

I’ve never seen such a huge leap in SKU’s or gap in features performance wise and still being called the same product.
So no matter what you ordered or think you will own it’s NOT a MacBook Pro, unless it has an M3 Max chip.
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What an absolute joke of an opinion. So absurd that you're clearly either actively trolling or have no understanding what 'work' means. By your logic, anyone still using an Intel mac is literally incapable of doing any work.
 
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Apple is getting very very good at the whole Upselling game. The M3Pro in many ways makes little sense vs the M2 and the smaller Max has very funny RAM-configs. So you end up with a 6K machine. The M3 sounds good for everyday stuff, the Pro I don’t get at all, the Max is basically a Studio Ultra in your bag (which is insane). But also: only a desktop machine will give you the thermal design to work on high power for longer periods of time. Rendering Video on the Studio Ultra is way, way different than on the Max MBA. So we can all look forward to the M3 Ultra.
 
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H_D said:
Apple is getting very very good at the whole Upselling game. The M3Pro in many ways makes little sense vs the M2 and the smaller Max has very funny RAM-configs. So you end up with a 6K machine. The M3 sounds good for everyday stuff, the Pro I don’t get at all, the Max is basically a Studio Ultra in your bag (which is insane). But also: only a desktop machine will give you the thermal design to work on high power for longer periods of time. Rendering Video on the Studio Ultra is way, way different than on the Max MBA. So we can all look forward to the M3 Ultra.
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Someone is gonna drill or laser cut vents into the underside of a 16” M3 Max and add a mesh grill to keep out dust. And have fresh cool air cycling through and get Studio Ultra perfromance. From a M3 Max laptp
 
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darthbane2k said:
Does it say MacBook Pro on the chassis? If it does it’s a MacBook Pro.
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Just because Apple tells you it's a MacBook pro doesn't mean it is.. They're all liars.. liars! I tell you... Its all a huge conspiracy!
 
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Imagine my dismay this morning, having read this post after unboxing my M3 MBP 14" yesterday only to discover I have been duped by Apple!😨
Grateful to have non-biased and grounded facts provided by MacRumors users like OP here.
 
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Imagine taking the light hearted tongue in cheek original post so seriously....no hope for the apple cult.
 
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TheRealAlex said:
Good luck doing work with anything less than an M3 Max. All the other M3’s have half the memory bandwidth and less Performance Cores. Or limited to 18GB of RAM vs 36GB I won’t even mention the 18 Core GPU vs the 30 Core GPU.

I’ve never seen such a huge leap in SKU’s or gap in features performance wise and still being called the same product.
So no matter what you ordered or think you will own it’s NOT a MacBook Pro, unless it has an M3 Max chip.
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Good attempt at stirring up opinions. And all of that excellence from the master of random claims that never materialised (the 2017 iPad won’t have a headphone jack, for a ridiculous sample).
 
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Single-threaded performance is the great equalizer. A $7000 M3 Max MBP gets no better single core performance than the $1600 base M3 MBP.
 
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