I'm so over Yosemite!

[deang001]

Man, I have just had enough of Yosemite. I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012). Yosemite was a clean instal and not over the top of Mavericks. It's version 10.1.1

I don't know if I'm just unlucky or this is the worse OS Apple have ever bought out and I've been using Macs since my Mac Classic 14 years ago It seems like a complete failure. It looks crappy as well.

I just can't believe how many issues I've had since upgrading (bad word ... definitely not an upgrade !!) from Mavericks.

Firstly some of my email accounts wouldn't work properly ... kept asking for passwords ALL the time. The work iT guy finally kind of fixed this but it still happens intermittently.

The WiFi is just fracked ... dropouts and constantly saying there is "another computer on the network using the same IP address". We have called our internet provider and they say nothing is wrong with it. I've googled this and it seems many have this issue.

Two of my Logitech mice just wont work properly and I absolutely hate the mac mouse. It's rubbish for any type of graphics work.

Both Apple TV's don't work properly any more. Every time we want to use one after not using them for half a day or so, you need to re-boot iTunes or even pull the plug out and then plug it back in. It's like they are hibernating or something.

Safari doesn't always render websites properly and says i'm not connected to the internet or else doesn't render images properly for some reason. I'll switch to Chrome and the website renders perfectly.

My MBP is connected to a Thunderbolt Display and sometimes when I boot up there is no signal to the TB display. The only way I'll get it to work is by holding the on/off button on the MBP for 10 secs and until it switches off and then boot up again ... this always works and is very repeatable. Just bizarre.

There is also a "Thunderbolt Display Firmware Update 1.2" waiting to be installed, but every time I try and install it I get an error message.

Anyway, I kept my full Time Machine back up from Mavericks and someone is coming over Monday to take Yosemite off and go back to Mavericks thank god.

I have never had so many issues with a Mac system ever.

End of rant

 

[SlCKB0Y]

The WiFi is just fracked ... dropouts and constantly saying there is "another computer on the network using the same IP address". We have called our internet provider and they say nothing is wrong with it. I've googled this and it seems many have this issue.

This has nothing to do with your ISP or the OS. This is likely to be PEBKAC.

 

[roadbloc]

Yosemite gave me a slew of WiFi issues too. Not to mention a load of memory bugs and that god-awful theme. I don't know why Apple always seem to have the same issues with every OS release. And I don't know why anybody in Apple thought the Yosemite redesign was a good idea. It looks terrible, the first ever time I've stopped using an OS because of its looks. The contrasting is nasty and gives me headaches and that new default font looks plain daft.

I'll be avoiding new releases of OS X until that theme is fixed and Apple stop breaking things that worked just fine with previous releases. It's just too much hassle.

 

[Nabooly]

I haven't had any of those issues except for the Safari one, which may or may not be related to OS X itself. I'm hoping the next update will fix that.

But other than that, I have no issues with wifi or external displays.

 

[deang001]

This has nothing to do with your ISP or the OS. This is likely to be PEBKAC.

Very puerile comment.

Just a coincidence then the troubles started after Yosemite?

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Yosemite gave me a slew of WiFi issues too. Not to mention a load of memory bugs and that god-awful theme. I don't know why Apple always seem to have the same issues with every OS release. And I don't know why anybody in Apple thought the Yosemite redesign was a good idea. It looks terrible, the first ever time I've stopped using an OS because of its looks. The contrasting is nasty and gives me headaches and that new default font looks plain daft.

I'll be avoiding new releases of OS X until that theme is fixed and Apple stop breaking things that worked just fine with previous releases. It's just too much hassle.

Yes, agreed. I'l be going back to Mavericks from Yosemite and will be very careful from here on it before installing any new updates from Apple.

I think what makes me frustrated is that I'm not the sort of person who wants to tinker around with an OS and computers in general. I just want to get on with it and use my computer for my graphics and video work and for entertainment (ATV etc). For me the underlying OS should be a given and operate smoothly which has more or less been the case until now and why I really like Apple and their products ... less choice but everything works ... until now.

I wonder if there is any correlation between Apple not charging for OS updates anymore and the amount of issues we may experience.

 

[leman]

I'd recommend you to try the supported way to install 10.10 (by updating from 10.9). I have experienced some problems with clean installs before.

 

[bigchief]

This has nothing to do with your ISP or the OS. This is likely to be PEBKAC.

What is PEBKAC?

 

[Mac'nCheese]

What is PEBKAC?

http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/PEBCAK

 

[mKTank]

This has nothing to do with your ISP or the OS. This is likely to be PEBKAC.

Uh no it isn't. Don't try to give it excuses.

I've been struggling for the past hour to get a simple folder off of my home network onto my MBP with Yosemite. Every time I even try to access it, Finder freezes and the Wi-Fi signal drops entirely and won't reconnect. Additionally, Finder remains frozen and I can't even restart without force-shutting down.

I said "screw it," booted into Windows via Boot Camp, the Wi-Fi connected in quarter a second after login, and now the folder is on my laptop.

Yosemite is a broken piece of software as is iOS 8. I don't know what's going on with Apple but they really need to get their **** together and at least act like they're the richest tech company in the world.

 

[tkermit]

This has nothing to do with your ISP or the OS. This is likely to be PEBKAC.

Ah, the pesky layer 8 issue...seriously though, the OP might try disabling the 'wake for network access' option. Still a bug though.

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I'd recommend you to try the supported way to install 10.10 (by updating from 10.9). I have experienced some problems with clean installs before.

Is this bizarro world?

 

[bigchief]

Man, I have just had enough of Yosemite. I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012). Yosemite was a clean instal and not over the top of Mavericks. It's version 10.1.1

I don't know if I'm just unlucky or this is the worse OS Apple have ever bought out and I've been using Macs since my Mac Classic 14 years ago It seems like a complete failure. It looks crappy as well.

I just can't believe how many issues I've had since upgrading (bad word ... definitely not an upgrade !!) from Mavericks.

Firstly some of my email accounts wouldn't work properly ... kept asking for passwords ALL the time. The work iT guy finally kind of fixed this but it still happens intermittently.

The WiFi is just fracked ... dropouts and constantly saying there is "another computer on the network using the same IP address". We have called our internet provider and they say nothing is wrong with it. I've googled this and it seems many have this issue.

Two of my Logitech mice just wont work properly and I absolutely hate the mac mouse. It's rubbish for any type of graphics work.

Both Apple TV's don't work properly any more. Every time we want to use one after not using them for half a day or so, you need to re-boot iTunes or even pull the plug out and then plug it back in. It's like they are hibernating or something.

Safari doesn't always render websites properly and says i'm not connected to the internet or else doesn't render images properly for some reason. I'll switch to Chrome and the website renders perfectly.

My MBP is connected to a Thunderbolt Display and sometimes when I boot up there is no signal to the TB display. The only way I'll get it to work is by holding the on/off button on the MBP for 10 secs and until it switches off and then boot up again ... this always works and is very repeatable. Just bizarre.

There is also a "Thunderbolt Display Firmware Update 1.2" waiting to be installed, but every time I try and install it I get an error message.

Anyway, I kept my full Time Machine back up from Mavericks and someone is coming over Monday to take Yosemite off and go back to Mavericks thank god.

I have never had so many issues with a Mac system ever.

End of rant

I bought my first Apple computer (MBP 15" late 2013 model) with Mavericks about 6 months ago and I love it. A couple of times I have had a pop up that says " another computer on the network using the same IP address". The couple of times it has happened was when I had turned the computer off and back on. So it happens with Mavericks too.

I'm sure glad I didn't update to Yosemite with all of the problems I've read about here in the forums. Yosemite only has a two and a half star rating in the app store. That should tell ya something.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Uh no it isn't. Don't try to give it excuses.

I've been struggling for the past hour to get a simple folder off of my home network onto my MBP with Yosemite. Every time I even try to access it, Finder freezes and the Wi-Fi signal drops entirely and won't reconnect.

Right, and does your issue sound like the one I was replying to? The one where the OS warns the guy there are two machines on the same network with the same IP? No... it sounds like a completely different issue.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Very puerile comment.

Just a coincidence then the troubles started after Yosemite?

No, not a coincidence at all, but you're mistaking correlation with causation. When you update or reinstall an OS the circumstances on your LAN can change... but i'd bet it's one of three things..

1. The IP range on your router reserved for DHCP overlaps with at least one statically assigned IP, resulting in two devices with the same IP or;

2. Whilst you were updating your Mac another device on your network did not honour the existing DHCP lease your Mac had and used it. Once your Mac came back online they both had the same IP, or;

3. Your Mac previously had a static IP and reverted to DHCP and (1) occurred.

If you notice this issue again, check what your Mac IP address is by System Preferences > Networks and choose your connected device in the left pane. The right pane will show your IP. Then use an IP scanner (like Fing on iOS or Android) to scan your network. Check if there is more than one node assigned your Mac's IP.

 

[leman]

Is this bizarro world?

Well, look at it this way — the officially supported installation path is using the installer to upgrade from a previous OS X. I can imagine that the USB installer has some bugs in it. I have installed Yosemite over 30 times now (on different machines), and only two of installations showed problems. Both were clean installs. I then reinstalled them via internet recovery + upgrade to Yosemite and then everything was fine. Of course, anecdotal evidence is anecdotal, but I think its worth a try. BTW, this is also what I have been explicitly told by Apple technical support — use the upgrade instead of USB install.

 

[deang001]

No, not a coincidence at all, but you're mistaking correlation with causation. When you update or reinstall an OS the circumstances on your LAN can change... but i'd bet it's one of three things..

1. The IP range on your router reserved for DHCP overlaps with at least one statically assigned IP, resulting in two devices with the same IP or;

2. Whilst you were updating your Mac another device on your network did not honour the existing DHCP lease your Mac had and used it. Once your Mac came back online they both had the same IP, or;

3. Your Mac previously had a static IP and reverted to DHCP and (1) occurred.

If you notice this issue again, check what your Mac IP address is by System Preferences > Networks and choose your connected device in the left pane. The right pane will show your IP. Then use an IP scanner (like Fing on iOS or Android) to scan your network. Check if there is more than one node assigned your Mac's IP.

Thanks ... but I really can't be bothered checking any of this and shouldn't have to. I was not asking for solutions to the issues I am having, but rather stating my disappointment in Yosemite as a long time & (mostly) content Apple user.

I do not have the time nor the inclination to spend what little spare time I do have mopping up after Apple's rushed job on this OS. The iT guy from work is coming over to our apartment to fix this mess up by taking Yosemite off and return it to Mavericks.

Everything should have worked in the first place as it did with every other Mac upgrade I've gone through in the past.

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I'd recommend you to try the supported way to install 10.10 (by updating from 10.9). I have experienced some problems with clean installs before.

Maybe, but this advise goes against what most people tell me. In any case I think I'll wait another year or so before upgrading again. Lets see what the OS after Yosemite is like after it's been around for a few months.

Hopefully someone with more of a clue than Ives in relation to the interplay between design & usability has a larger role to play in the next OS.

 

[simonsi]

...to fix this mess up by taking Yosemite off and return it to Mavericks....

Bet it still occurs as that won't fix the issue on your LAN. If that is the best your IT guy can do, you need a new IT guy, or you need to listen to what <he> says and not try and do his job for him.

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...It's version 10.1.1...

Bet it isn't.

 

[deang001]

Bet it still occurs as that won't fix the issue on your LAN. If that is the best your IT guy can do, you need a new IT guy, or you need to listen to what <he> says and not try and do his job for him.

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Bet it isn't.

It may not but lets see. If it can fix most things I'll be very happy.

I don't try and do anyone's job for them. He suggested going back to Mavericks if I was more comfortable with that OS and I agreed. I just want to get on with my work and have the OS do what it's meant to do and forget it's there.

Great spot ... yes, it's 10.10.1. You are a very observant person.

 

[DJEmergency]

Thanks ... but I really can't be bothered checking any of this and shouldn't have to. I was not asking for solutions to the issues I am having, but rather stating my disappointment in Yosemite as a long time & (mostly) content Apple user.

I do not have the time nor the inclination to spend what little spare time I do have mopping up after Apple's rushed job on this OS. The iT guy from work is coming over to our apartment to fix this mess up by taking Yosemite off and return it to Mavericks.

Everything should have worked in the first place as it did with every other Mac upgrade I've gone through in the past.

I'm sorry to say, but the issue is with your router and not with the OS. You will have to go into your router's web address stated in your router's manual and set all your devices to a static IP. You're going to be disappointed when going back to Mavericks, because the problem will continue to remain. Calling Yosemite all sorts of names due to an issue that's at user's fault here is a bit overboard. If your computer repair guy blames the OS for the issue then you need to get a new guy. He either is trying to make a quick buck from you or doesn't know what he's talking about. I hope that helps

EDIT: Yup! It's definitely your router causing issues since you also have problems with your Apple TV connection that you have to reboot all the time.