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kho

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Dec 4, 2007
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Dear Friends,

I paid for an "iMac, 24-inch, 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Extreme" and today received an "iMac, 24-inch, 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo".

I understand that Core 2 Extreme is a newer class of processor. It is different from the Core 2 Duo line.

So have I been conned by Apple Australia ( I bought it online from Apple Store) ?

KHo
 
The Extreme name is merely marketing. You got what you ordered and paid for. Now stop whining and go enjoy your new beast. :D
 
Mine said Extreme when I was running Tiger. Same as you under Leopard. Awesome machine.
 
It's a core 2 duo extreme. The 'extreme' bit just means it's unlocked so you can overclock it (not that there's a way to do so that I'm aware of on the imac). In practice, it's just faster than the 'not extreme' 2.4ghz.
 
Apple does not like to use marketing terms coined by other companies (Extreme, Intel Inside, etc.).

Well, your not correct about that because they use the name "Extreme" on the website when describing the processor on the iMac.
 
Well, your not correct about that because they use the name "Extreme" on the website when describing the processor on the iMac.

Apple usually does mention Intel monikers in its product descriptions and it´s good practice as those specifically looking for cpu power know what they will get.
 
Apple usually does mention Intel monikers in its product descriptions and it´s good practice as those specifically looking for cpu power know what they will get.

And you quoted me because??? I think you quoted the wrong guy. You sorta mimicked what I was saying.;)
 
Well, your not correct about that because they use the name "Extreme" on the website when describing the processor on the iMac.

They may mention "Extreme," etc. on their website, but do you see them anywhere on their products or packagings? That's what I meant, in the context of the OP.
 
No worries at all to the OP!

You have the Extreme processor! Enjoy the fastest consumer mac ever!
 
Update

Thank you all for your replies.

First up, "love at first sight" is the only way to describe my thought on the machine I received.

I was tempted to "accept " the machine as it is except when I rang Apple Australia this morning :
1 the technical support guy did acknowledge 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo is NOT the same as 2.GHz Core 2 Extreme. How much is the difference ? He did not elaborate.

2 the sales support person then happily made a new order according to the specifications I paid for (to be transported from Shanghai) without any whinging.

So now I get the enjoy another 10 days of eager anticipation.
 
Thank you all for your replies.

First up, "love at first sight" is the only way to describe my thought on the machine I received.

I was tempted to "accept " the machine as it is except when I rang Apple Australia this morning :
1 the technical support guy did acknowledge 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo is NOT the same as 2.GHz Core 2 Extreme. How much is the difference ? He did not elaborate.

2 the sales support person then happily made a new order according to the specifications I paid for (to be transported from Shanghai) without any whinging.

So now I get the enjoy another 10 days of eager anticipation.
You're waiting 10 days for the exact same machine. Cheers m8!
 
Thank you all

Thank you to all of you who enlightened me that I indeed received what I paid for.

There is a support article in the Apple site which specifically indicates that Intel Core 2 "Duo" would still show up in "About this Mac" despite the presence of the "extreme" version. You are all correct : 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo = Core 2 extreme

What a pity the technical people in Apple Australia did not bother to look this up before suggesting a return and ordering another machine tomorrow.

I would ring to educate them tomorrow.

Thanks again

KHo
 
They agreed to send out a non-extreme 2.8ghz imac? They'll have a problem - there's no such thing, intel don't make a 2.8ghz processor other than the extreme one!

Just to clarify: the 2.8 extreme IS a core 2 duo processor. When you're using it, there will be zero difference between an extreme chip and the normal c2d chip (assuming you could get one that fast). The only actual difference is that intel allows you to change the speed it runs at, so you can make it go even faster. That's a benefit, so if they did actually replace it you'd be paying the same for an inferior product.
 
There is not a 2.8 GHz iMac that is not an "extreme" - just check the Apple store.

I too ordered the 2.8 Extreme, and when I go to "about this Mac" it reports it as a 2.8 C2D as well. You got the correct machine.

Enjoy! I know what you mean by "love at first sight". After almost 2 months, I still look at this machine on my desk and gaze at it admiringly.
 
There Is No Such Thing As A 2.8ghz Core 2 Duo Non-extreme

Sorry for the caps, but this is very basic:

The 2.8 ghz extreme name is JUST MARKETING. It is known as the X7900 chipset and is the ONLY 2.8ghz core 2 duo processor that is available!

You can see for yourself at Intel's product websites:

http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2xe.htm
http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm

More complicated info:
You will notice that the core 2 duo (non-extreme) does NOT go to 2.8 GHz, only to 2.6Ghz (the T7800 which is the one in the macbookpros). To make it even more confusing the T7800 is the EXACT same thing as the 2.6 ghz core 2 duo extreme the X7800 although the T7800 is called simply core 2 duo while the X7800 is core 2 duo extreme. It is all marketing. A 2.8ghz processor is by its very marketing nature called the core 2 duo extreme, you CANNOT buy a 2.8ghz core 2 duo non-extreme (if you could it would be a T7900 model but that does not exist).

Basically: All imacs with a 2.8ghz chip are core 2 duo extremes, codenamed the X7900 chipset. There is no chipset that is non-extreme at 2.8ghz. End of story.
 
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