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drdaz

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Yep. I'm in that thread too.

It's very odd (and quite disheartening) that this issue isn't more widespread. My hopes for it getting fixed are fading.

I've rolled back to Mojave, it's the only way of getting any work done. That's the best advice I can offer.
 
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Ethosik

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Do any of you have external monitors? I fixed my 4+ daily kernel panics by getting the Radeon 5700XT and using my external monitors through the eGPU.
 

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Do any of you have external monitors? I fixed my 4+ daily kernel panics by getting the Radeon 5700XT and using my external monitors through the eGPU.
using external monitor with a MBP 2015.

I don't think getting a eGPU is a feasible alternative.
 

pdxplm

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Had to revert back to Mojave on my 2018 MBA. The display drivers really hosed my system. Back to Mojave on my 2013 MBP as well. I may try to install a clean version on my 2012 Mini as it's not my daily machine.
 

anthonymoody

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If you've not, try turning all the Eco settings Off. i.e. make sure your screen never goes black and your Mac never goes to sleep. Once I did that, the KP's stop. I don't use an external monitor but do have a 3rd party SSD installed in my iMac , a condition which others have also had issues with.
 

bpeeps

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Back your stuff up. Boot into recovery mode (shift, option, command R). Erase the Catalina volume. Reinstall the OS your computer came with. Sidecar and the few improvements Catalina offers simply isn't worth it, Catalina is unusuable.
 

MacManiac76

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Catalina is perfectly usable for hundreds of thousands of people. Just because some people on these forums are having bugs and other issues does not mean it is unusable. Catalina works just fine on my 2019 iMac and 2017 MacBook Air. I hope all of you are offering feedback to Apple so they can note all of these issues and rectify them.
 
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bpeeps

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Catalina is perfectly usable for hundreds of thousands of people. Just because some people on these forums are having bugs and other issues does not mean it is unusable. Catalina works just fine on my 2019 iMac and 2017 MacBook Air. I hope all of you are offering feedback to Apple so they can note all of these issues and rectify them.
Valuable contribution to a thread where people's machines are crashing. Context matters.
 

MacManiac76

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Valuable contribution to a thread where people's machines are crashing. Context matters.

It was valuable if you read the last line. Also, saying Catalina is not usable for everyone does not contribute to the thread either.
 
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drdaz

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Do any of you have external monitors? I fixed my 4+ daily kernel panics by getting the Radeon 5700XT and using my external monitors through the eGPU.

2x LG 4k screens; nothing fancy. Through a CalDigit TS3+ dock.

Catalina is perfectly usable for hundreds of thousands of people. Just because some people on these forums are having bugs and other issues does not mean it is unusable.

This is absolutely true, and that's what worries me. This just isn't going to have a high priority for them. There seem to be plenty other fires to put out. But this thing dies reliably within 10 minutes for me on a clean install.

I hope all of you are offering feedback to Apple so they can note all of these issues and rectify them.

I've filed a report on Feedback Assistant. I won't deal with their customer service anymore. I spent a year with them and a faulty 2018 MBP. Absolutely the worst consumer experience I've ever had. I wrote it up:

 
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drdaz

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So I've found that I can get a stable system by removing the contents of [path_to_user_home]/Music/Music and then resetting SMC and NVRAM.

I've found this using the current beta, but I didn't test it on earlier releases. I suspect it could be true under 10.15.1 as well.

My machine has been stable for 3-4 days now. But if I open the Music app, from that point on, the crashes as described in the original post in that thread will start occurring again.

It's worth noting too, that this is only the case on my clean installation of Catalina. I have a separate install (on the same machine) which was upgraded from Mojave, and that crashes regularly no matter what.

Hope this is useful to somebody.
 

marcel500

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Catalina is perfectly usable for hundreds of thousands of people. Just because some people on these forums are having bugs and other issues does not mean it is unusable. Catalina works just fine on my 2019 iMac and 2017 MacBook Air. I hope all of you are offering feedback to Apple so they can note all of these issues and rectify them.

Why would you say this? Oh right you have apple stocks and don't want any negative press - got it. Please don't post here if you don't have anything to say - if your computer works as stated why did you actually clicked on the link. The original threat on the apple website has over a 1000 posts by now.
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So I've found that I can get a stable system by removing the contents of [path_to_user_home]/Music/Music and then resetting SMC and NVRAM.

I've found this using the current beta, but I didn't test it on earlier releases. I suspect it could be true under 10.15.1 as well.

My machine has been stable for 3-4 days now. But if I open the Music app, from that point on, the crashes as described in the original post in that thread will start occurring again.

It's worth noting too, that this is only the case on my clean installation of Catalina. I have a separate install (on the same machine) which was upgraded from Mojave, and that crashes regularly no matter what.

Hope this is useful to somebody.

I don't think I can do that :) I guess we have to wait, even the original post has no solution till date. Let's hope that it gets solved by apple.
 

drdaz

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I don't think I can do that :) I guess we have to wait, even the original post has no solution till date. Let's hope that it gets solved by apple.

Heh... I opened Pages by accident this week. Once it's been initialised, just like Music, the crashes start.

Unlike Music, I don't know where to find the files that indicate Pages has been opened so I can delete them. So the crashes are back.
 

Ethosik

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Catalina is perfectly usable for hundreds of thousands of people. Just because some people on these forums are having bugs and other issues does not mean it is unusable. Catalina works just fine on my 2019 iMac and 2017 MacBook Air. I hope all of you are offering feedback to Apple so they can note all of these issues and rectify them.
Something is clearly wrong with Apple’s Vega drivers. The fact that I can reproduce a Kernel Panic just by having a clean install and two extra monitors connected to my iMac is concerning. I had to get an eGPU set up to use multiple monitors with Catalina. Never received a kernel panic again.

And by the way, when I say clean install, I mean once the OS finishes installing and I set up my account password, I literally do nothing else and I get kernel panics. So it’s not like I have some software running.
 

drdaz

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Something is clearly wrong with Apple’s Vega drivers. The fact that I can reproduce a Kernel Panic just by having a clean install and two extra monitors connected to my iMac is concerning. I had to get an eGPU set up to use multiple monitors with Catalina. Never received a kernel panic again.

Doesn't seem Vega specific. Seems to be discrete GFX cards generally that have the problem. Both pre-Vega and nVidia cards are showing up with the same stuff.

It's a shame; I've been using Catalina for the past week (wanted to work with SwiftUI), and it feels to me like an improvement over Mojave. You know, except for the regular crashing.
 
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