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Okay, I know all the excitement surrounds the iPad Pro since WWDC - and it is a really awesome device - technically superior to the iPad 2017 as it should be, being the Pro choice, but let me share some of my experience this summer on my iPad 2017 that might be of interest to you all!

I bought the iPad 2017 from the Apple Store. It's replacing a ThinkPad E series, which originally replaced my Mid-2012 MacBook Pro and I just couldn't get used to Windows. So I decided to sell it, and as money was an object I couldn't just afford to get a new MacBook! This was around the time of WWDC and the iOS 11 announcement and just like many of you, I was in awe of how mature the iOS experience was looking! The new Files app is my most anticipated feature as I always used iCloud Drive on my Mac for all my content - my love and preference for the Apple ecosystem is one of the reasons I disliked Windows btw, it was okay but obviouly couldn't satisfy an Apple fan's lust for Apple.

The 2017 iPad gave me enough storage at 128GB to really house my over 10GB of photos from over the years, a significant amount of downloaded album from Apple Music and convenient ways to import my online accounts and data - most importantly my calendars going back to 2010 and well organised iCloud Phot Library. Taking all the Apple specific comfort into account, and bar a Mac, the iPad was the only choice.

I debated with myself about the need for full desktop apps, full file compatibility and other fruits of a full desktop OS (you know, things like Torrents etc!). Sure, those things are important. I have friends who use a lot of obscure Windows only programmes professional and that was their reason to never buy a Mac - thats fine. And I see a lot of people on here who will seemingly never consider an iPad ever good enough to replace their Mac.

It came down to my real world workflow. What did I use my MacBook for over the past few years? Here's what:

Safari Browsing - well, we've got good choices for browsing on iOS. I was concerned some movie and tv show sites wouldnt' work due to lack of flash. Turns out, even those dodgy sites are now on modern HTML5 standards.

Mail - simple enough, I've always liked the iOS client and it doesn't lack any features I use. I can have all my accounts and attachments handled through it.

Calendar - iOS just works with Apple's iCloud Calendar and that's what I've used for 7 years now. I spent a lot of time keeping this organised and depending on it for meetings, study times, work times etc and balancing personal life with it and it's important to me this be kept and maintained.

Minecraft - the glorious time sink I've spent hours building stuff on. Minecraft on iOS is good, not 100% the same but playable and enjoyable to me and now shared multiplayer with Windows and Xbox it's still there for me. Though I cant use my old worlds, they're safely stored away on iCloud Drive.

File Management - Since I stopped using Time Machine on my Mac I kept everything on iCloud Drive. Documents and pictures that didnt belong in Photos were all kept here. Scans of hundreds of documents too. All accessible from everywhere were never needed on my Macs hard drive. The same applies to iPad, it's all seamlessly here. And I Can't wait for Files to further manage this on iOS.

Photos - this is a huge personal one. I've got 10000 photos on my iCloud Photo Library all organised perfectly with accurate metadata, GPS, albums and everything. When I moved this to Windows I couldn't find a good organiser and nothing I did put them back into order despite metadata being correct!

Microsoft Office - the most important productivity wise computing task. I can work on university projects entirely on Office and whilst I'm acutely aware iOS has some limitations vs. The full Windows version none of those features are actually deal breakers for me. And when I worked in accounting practices, their use of Excel was so simple that yes, iPad Excel could do the job! They used Sage, which would not be on iPad, but let me note.. they did NOT let anyone take client files home anyway nor expect anyone to work from home on software like that. So I dont consider it a problem as an employee.

SketchUp - It's been years since I made complex models on SketchUp. My life isn't going the direction of using this for career or professional aspects and just like Minecraft, this time sink has gradually stopped being something I did on my MacBook Pro naturally. But I have almost 100 invaluable files and models stored on iCloud. And I can use the SketchUp official viewing app to enjoy them fully if I ever need to look back at them. I'm aware that if I did go back to 3D it'd be the next step to use a more serious program like AutoCAD in general so this isn't much of a problem as a finance student!


So, as for workflow the iPad allows me to organise my life how I've always done, get university work done with no compromises, communicate and enjoy personal media like photos and files.

But since I've been on iPad, I've actually evolved my computing experience.

Scanner Pro has meant scanning tonnes of paperwork files fast and fun. I've gotten rid of so much clutter in favour of digital files. Ready to email in seconds and annotate, even convert to full searchable text. It's amazing how easy this was. I'd have had to spend a weekend using an actual scanner for this. Looking forward to this year of university when I get handouts etc just scanning them and not having to grow so much paper clutter.

PDF Expert is awesome for annotating and editing PDFs. I actually got a part time job from an application that started as an annotated PDF on my iPad. Sure it can be done on PC but a portrait iPad feels more natural and even without an Apple Pencil it's so natural.

iMovie was never an app I've used much before on the Mac, but it's so simple on iPad to group together footage taken from days out and make them to movies. I've enjoyed using it way more on iPad - because I never did on the Mac.

Deep Integration with iPhone - this was a HUGE productivity booster - more than I ever would have imagined. Before my iPhone and Mac synced well as you know from Apple's ecosystem. But now, my iPad - main computer - is literally cloned - on my iPhone like for like almost. My files ALWAYS with me, always where I left them - one single interface. It's always in sync with no effort from me. Never any complications. I can literally work on a Keynote presentation now, be interrupted, set the iPad down and when I'm out and about can access it where I left on my iPhone for reference.

Copy and Paste between devices is also amazing. I can spend ages finding a page or image to share with someone on the iPad, copy it, then Whatsapp is on my iPhone without needing to send it to myself.

The portability of the iPad in an Apple Smart Cover makes it the most portable computer I've ever had. And my MacBook Pro, although heavy always had a sleek and sexy profile that always fitted in any backpack. With the iPad, I dont even feel it in the bag. It fits in the door bin on my car so it can easily be set down there for quick get in and go situations. Sounds novel, but makes a big difference. I'm not as afraid of setting down the back pack anymore like I would with a laptop in it. The iPad takes knocks and bumps with grace like an iPhone.

A Logitech K380 keyboard is a constant companion to the iPad. Just like the case that stands it upright. This Bluetooth keyboard can go back and forward between my iPhone and iPad. So here I am, with MacRumors on the left side of the screen, another app on the right and my iPhone with iMessage propped up next to it. When iOS 11 drops, with the third app on top - that'll make a total of four apps at a time I can use side by side. More than I need. The keyboard has hot keys to switch device at a glance and is quite handy.

And here's something you never expected to hear, but it's the most ergonomic computing experience I've ever had. But before you complain, let me explain why. Using an £8 360 iPad holder to adjust the height and position of the iPad means I'm never bending my neck down, I can always have it the right distance and height for my neck to be straight and eyes to not be straining. Meanwhilst my keyboard is flat on the table or arm of the chair at 90 degrees flat. The MacBook Pro or any laptop involved looking down at a hunchback enduring angle over years - something I always worried about.

I was also planning a new desk setup, which was going to be costly. But instead I bought a bed table called KLIPSK from Ikea (£7) - using this in bed keeps the iPad propped up again in front of me and at the right height whilst I use the keyboard with my arms all conforming to ergonomic rules for comfort. And there's room for paperwork, food, you name it! No need for a desk anymore.

I totally get the criticism of lifting your arms up to use the touchscreen vs. A trackpad and comfortable mouse support. But when you use the iPad like me - in total comfort - and your arms are 90 degrees,flat and supported, you lift your hands up and your elbow is still fully resting on the table or bed.. therefore you arent extending and lifting the whole arm and it's much less tiring. I know how tiring lifting your entire arm repeatedly is! That's why Apple haven't made a touch screen iMac, and to be honest I'm glad of it!

And when I think back to when I bought some nice Macs of the years, I used to plan things like RAM upgrades, SSD upgrades, new accessories and backup drives. A printer maybe. That's all gone now with the iPad - I dont need to keep up with SSDs, RAM or other fun but expensive upgrades. From the £430 I spent, then the £25 on my keyboard and other cheap accessories I've got a totally modern and capable computer that handles my workflow and data perfectly. I can use it almost anywhere in a few more situations than a laptop. It never dies out on me, nor do I have to use it tethered to a power outlet - and the Macs were never bad at that, but the iPad actually outdoes them in that regard.

Now, there's some small imperfections, but not many come to mind. Just things like editing Excel cells with the on screen keyboard, or positioning objects on screen precisely using touch on Keynote etc - but admittedly, using a keyboard fixes both situations. Even selecting text on screen with arrow keys and Copy and Paste with shortcuts is a million times more productive. With a keyboard, the iPad doesn't even suck in that regard but I do recognise it's an example of how it's not 100% for everyone.

Like many people, I dont use specialist movie or programming software and never will. So my mainstream needs are met just fine with iPad.

But all things considered, it's working out fantastically. iOS 11 can only add to the experience and I'd like to imagine iOS 12 will continue that trend. And this is me using a 2017 iPad - non Pro. The Apple Pencil and extra features, if you have the money, would also only add to the experience. But you dont necessarily need it if you feel like you can get by like me!

If anyone has any questions about the iOS lifestyle let me know and I'll give you my opinion or advice on it. I'd recommend it.
 
That's an amazingly in-depth review. Congratulations on actually using your iPad virtually as much as anyone could. If you ever get the chance to get one that uses the pencil, you'll be even more productive. I feel a bit embarrassed as I'm a 'It's shiny, I love it!' kind of a person who loves tech but certainly doesn't use it to it's full capacity.

Really, really, 'Good for you!' I am quite humbled by your post.
 
Glad to see another Logitech K380 user. I’m in love with mine. It’s the same size as the Apple Magic Keyboard and I can use it on my PlayStation and HTPC without any repairing.

Plus it’s $30, and easy to carry with the iPad at times when I need a keyboard. Many times I don’t and just like to use the leather Smart Cover.
 
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Okay, I know all the excitement surrounds the iPad Pro since WWDC - and it is a really awesome device - technically superior to the iPad 2017 as it should be, being the Pro choice, but let me share some of my experience this summer on my iPad 2017 that might be of interest to you all!

I bought the iPad 2017 from the Apple Store. It's replacing a ThinkPad E series, which originally replaced my Mid-2012 MacBook Pro and I just couldn't get used to Windows. So I decided to sell it, and as money was an object I couldn't just afford to get a new MacBook! This was around the time of WWDC and the iOS 11 announcement and just like many of you, I was in awe of how mature the iOS experience was looking! The new Files app is my most anticipated feature as I always used iCloud Drive on my Mac for all my content - my love and preference for the Apple ecosystem is one of the reasons I disliked Windows btw, it was okay but obviouly couldn't satisfy an Apple fan's lust for Apple.

The 2017 iPad gave me enough storage at 128GB to really house my over 10GB of photos from over the years, a significant amount of downloaded album from Apple Music and convenient ways to import my online accounts and data - most importantly my calendars going back to 2010 and well organised iCloud Phot Library. Taking all the Apple specific comfort into account, and bar a Mac, the iPad was the only choice.

I debated with myself about the need for full desktop apps, full file compatibility and other fruits of a full desktop OS (you know, things like Torrents etc!). Sure, those things are important. I have friends who use a lot of obscure Windows only programmes professional and that was their reason to never buy a Mac - thats fine. And I see a lot of people on here who will seemingly never consider an iPad ever good enough to replace their Mac.

It came down to my real world workflow. What did I use my MacBook for over the past few years? Here's what:

Safari Browsing - well, we've got good choices for browsing on iOS. I was concerned some movie and tv show sites wouldnt' work due to lack of flash. Turns out, even those dodgy sites are now on modern HTML5 standards.

Mail - simple enough, I've always liked the iOS client and it doesn't lack any features I use. I can have all my accounts and attachments handled through it.

Calendar - iOS just works with Apple's iCloud Calendar and that's what I've used for 7 years now. I spent a lot of time keeping this organised and depending on it for meetings, study times, work times etc and balancing personal life with it and it's important to me this be kept and maintained.

Minecraft - the glorious time sink I've spent hours building stuff on. Minecraft on iOS is good, not 100% the same but playable and enjoyable to me and now shared multiplayer with Windows and Xbox it's still there for me. Though I cant use my old worlds, they're safely stored away on iCloud Drive.

File Management - Since I stopped using Time Machine on my Mac I kept everything on iCloud Drive. Documents and pictures that didnt belong in Photos were all kept here. Scans of hundreds of documents too. All accessible from everywhere were never needed on my Macs hard drive. The same applies to iPad, it's all seamlessly here. And I Can't wait for Files to further manage this on iOS.

Photos - this is a huge personal one. I've got 10000 photos on my iCloud Photo Library all organised perfectly with accurate metadata, GPS, albums and everything. When I moved this to Windows I couldn't find a good organiser and nothing I did put them back into order despite metadata being correct!

Microsoft Office - the most important productivity wise computing task. I can work on university projects entirely on Office and whilst I'm acutely aware iOS has some limitations vs. The full Windows version none of those features are actually deal breakers for me. And when I worked in accounting practices, their use of Excel was so simple that yes, iPad Excel could do the job! They used Sage, which would not be on iPad, but let me note.. they did NOT let anyone take client files home anyway nor expect anyone to work from home on software like that. So I dont consider it a problem as an employee.

SketchUp - It's been years since I made complex models on SketchUp. My life isn't going the direction of using this for career or professional aspects and just like Minecraft, this time sink has gradually stopped being something I did on my MacBook Pro naturally. But I have almost 100 invaluable files and models stored on iCloud. And I can use the SketchUp official viewing app to enjoy them fully if I ever need to look back at them. I'm aware that if I did go back to 3D it'd be the next step to use a more serious program like AutoCAD in general so this isn't much of a problem as a finance student!


So, as for workflow the iPad allows me to organise my life how I've always done, get university work done with no compromises, communicate and enjoy personal media like photos and files.

But since I've been on iPad, I've actually evolved my computing experience.

Scanner Pro has meant scanning tonnes of paperwork files fast and fun. I've gotten rid of so much clutter in favour of digital files. Ready to email in seconds and annotate, even convert to full searchable text. It's amazing how easy this was. I'd have had to spend a weekend using an actual scanner for this. Looking forward to this year of university when I get handouts etc just scanning them and not having to grow so much paper clutter.

PDF Expert is awesome for annotating and editing PDFs. I actually got a part time job from an application that started as an annotated PDF on my iPad. Sure it can be done on PC but a portrait iPad feels more natural and even without an Apple Pencil it's so natural.

iMovie was never an app I've used much before on the Mac, but it's so simple on iPad to group together footage taken from days out and make them to movies. I've enjoyed using it way more on iPad - because I never did on the Mac.

Deep Integration with iPhone - this was a HUGE productivity booster - more than I ever would have imagined. Before my iPhone and Mac synced well as you know from Apple's ecosystem. But now, my iPad - main computer - is literally cloned - on my iPhone like for like almost. My files ALWAYS with me, always where I left them - one single interface. It's always in sync with no effort from me. Never any complications. I can literally work on a Keynote presentation now, be interrupted, set the iPad down and when I'm out and about can access it where I left on my iPhone for reference.

Copy and Paste between devices is also amazing. I can spend ages finding a page or image to share with someone on the iPad, copy it, then Whatsapp is on my iPhone without needing to send it to myself.

The portability of the iPad in an Apple Smart Cover makes it the most portable computer I've ever had. And my MacBook Pro, although heavy always had a sleek and sexy profile that always fitted in any backpack. With the iPad, I dont even feel it in the bag. It fits in the door bin on my car so it can easily be set down there for quick get in and go situations. Sounds novel, but makes a big difference. I'm not as afraid of setting down the back pack anymore like I would with a laptop in it. The iPad takes knocks and bumps with grace like an iPhone.

A Logitech K380 keyboard is a constant companion to the iPad. Just like the case that stands it upright. This Bluetooth keyboard can go back and forward between my iPhone and iPad. So here I am, with MacRumors on the left side of the screen, another app on the right and my iPhone with iMessage propped up next to it. When iOS 11 drops, with the third app on top - that'll make a total of four apps at a time I can use side by side. More than I need. The keyboard has hot keys to switch device at a glance and is quite handy.

And here's something you never expected to hear, but it's the most ergonomic computing experience I've ever had. But before you complain, let me explain why. Using an £8 360 iPad holder to adjust the height and position of the iPad means I'm never bending my neck down, I can always have it the right distance and height for my neck to be straight and eyes to not be straining. Meanwhilst my keyboard is flat on the table or arm of the chair at 90 degrees flat. The MacBook Pro or any laptop involved looking down at a hunchback enduring angle over years - something I always worried about.

I was also planning a new desk setup, which was going to be costly. But instead I bought a bed table called KLIPSK from Ikea (£7) - using this in bed keeps the iPad propped up again in front of me and at the right height whilst I use the keyboard with my arms all conforming to ergonomic rules for comfort. And there's room for paperwork, food, you name it! No need for a desk anymore.

I totally get the criticism of lifting your arms up to use the touchscreen vs. A trackpad and comfortable mouse support. But when you use the iPad like me - in total comfort - and your arms are 90 degrees,flat and supported, you lift your hands up and your elbow is still fully resting on the table or bed.. therefore you arent extending and lifting the whole arm and it's much less tiring. I know how tiring lifting your entire arm repeatedly is! That's why Apple haven't made a touch screen iMac, and to be honest I'm glad of it!

And when I think back to when I bought some nice Macs of the years, I used to plan things like RAM upgrades, SSD upgrades, new accessories and backup drives. A printer maybe. That's all gone now with the iPad - I dont need to keep up with SSDs, RAM or other fun but expensive upgrades. From the £430 I spent, then the £25 on my keyboard and other cheap accessories I've got a totally modern and capable computer that handles my workflow and data perfectly. I can use it almost anywhere in a few more situations than a laptop. It never dies out on me, nor do I have to use it tethered to a power outlet - and the Macs were never bad at that, but the iPad actually outdoes them in that regard.

Now, there's some small imperfections, but not many come to mind. Just things like editing Excel cells with the on screen keyboard, or positioning objects on screen precisely using touch on Keynote etc - but admittedly, using a keyboard fixes both situations. Even selecting text on screen with arrow keys and Copy and Paste with shortcuts is a million times more productive. With a keyboard, the iPad doesn't even suck in that regard but I do recognise it's an example of how it's not 100% for everyone.

Like many people, I dont use specialist movie or programming software and never will. So my mainstream needs are met just fine with iPad.

But all things considered, it's working out fantastically. iOS 11 can only add to the experience and I'd like to imagine iOS 12 will continue that trend. And this is me using a 2017 iPad - non Pro. The Apple Pencil and extra features, if you have the money, would also only add to the experience. But you dont necessarily need it if you feel like you can get by like me!

If anyone has any questions about the iOS lifestyle let me know and I'll give you my opinion or advice on it. I'd recommend it.
Great review, I love how the iPad ($430) does all this perfectly for you, when I would have used the sketch up files alone as a excuse to get a Pro model.
 
Thanks for posting this review.

I bought the 10.5" pro as I missed having my Air 2 and I am in the process of replacing my MacBook with it (trialling a Smart Keyboard). Whilst I might not be selling the MacBook quite yet (feel like I want it as a backup) I'll be attempting to use the iPad for more of my university work. Certainly once I'm finished I will no longer have a need for the MacBook as all it would be used for is mostly consumption with some small research/journal reading.

It's a refreshing change to see someone openly embracing the iPad as their main/only device and showing just how people with similar uses (myself included) can really make it work.
 
I took a chance by attending a customer meeting on-site armed only with my 12" iPad Pro rather than my MBP. The long and short of it was that I managed to achieve everything I needed to do with the only tradeoff being that it took considerably longer on the iPad.

I had to produce a Powerpoint with text and graphics taken from other documents on OneDrive, and while I was ultimately successful I know I could have done it in half the time on the MBP. However, I was relieved that I came out on top and the presentation went well. :)

One thing that drives me mad, on this site specifically, is whenever I hit one of the arrow keys on the iPad keyboard cover, rather than actually moving the cursor it just repositions the page right to the massive grey information block at the bottom of every page. I have perfectly good arrow keys but still have to use touch to move the cursor around. It only happens on this site, which is a bit ironic!
 
Well written, I'm on the new 2017 iPad as well and use it for almost everything other than programming.
 
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Okay, I know all the excitement surrounds the iPad Pro since WWDC - and it is a really awesome device - technically superior to the iPad 2017 as it should be, being the Pro choice, but let me share some of my experience this summer on my iPad 2017 that might be of interest to you all!

I bought the iPad 2017 from the Apple Store. It's replacing a ThinkPad E series, which originally replaced my Mid-2012 MacBook Pro and I just couldn't get used to Windows. So I decided to sell it, and as money was an object I couldn't just afford to get a new MacBook! This was around the time of WWDC and the iOS 11 announcement and just like many of you, I was in awe of how mature the iOS experience was looking! The new Files app is my most anticipated feature as I always used iCloud Drive on my Mac for all my content - my love and preference for the Apple ecosystem is one of the reasons I disliked Windows btw, it was okay but obviouly couldn't satisfy an Apple fan's lust for Apple.

The 2017 iPad gave me enough storage at 128GB to really house my over 10GB of photos from over the years, a significant amount of downloaded album from Apple Music and convenient ways to import my online accounts and data - most importantly my calendars going back to 2010 and well organised iCloud Phot Library. Taking all the Apple specific comfort into account, and bar a Mac, the iPad was the only choice.

I debated with myself about the need for full desktop apps, full file compatibility and other fruits of a full desktop OS (you know, things like Torrents etc!). Sure, those things are important. I have friends who use a lot of obscure Windows only programmes professional and that was their reason to never buy a Mac - thats fine. And I see a lot of people on here who will seemingly never consider an iPad ever good enough to replace their Mac.

It came down to my real world workflow. What did I use my MacBook for over the past few years? Here's what:

Safari Browsing - well, we've got good choices for browsing on iOS. I was concerned some movie and tv show sites wouldnt' work due to lack of flash. Turns out, even those dodgy sites are now on modern HTML5 standards.

Mail - simple enough, I've always liked the iOS client and it doesn't lack any features I use. I can have all my accounts and attachments handled through it.

Calendar - iOS just works with Apple's iCloud Calendar and that's what I've used for 7 years now. I spent a lot of time keeping this organised and depending on it for meetings, study times, work times etc and balancing personal life with it and it's important to me this be kept and maintained.

Minecraft - the glorious time sink I've spent hours building stuff on. Minecraft on iOS is good, not 100% the same but playable and enjoyable to me and now shared multiplayer with Windows and Xbox it's still there for me. Though I cant use my old worlds, they're safely stored away on iCloud Drive.

File Management - Since I stopped using Time Machine on my Mac I kept everything on iCloud Drive. Documents and pictures that didnt belong in Photos were all kept here. Scans of hundreds of documents too. All accessible from everywhere were never needed on my Macs hard drive. The same applies to iPad, it's all seamlessly here. And I Can't wait for Files to further manage this on iOS.

Photos - this is a huge personal one. I've got 10000 photos on my iCloud Photo Library all organised perfectly with accurate metadata, GPS, albums and everything. When I moved this to Windows I couldn't find a good organiser and nothing I did put them back into order despite metadata being correct!

Microsoft Office - the most important productivity wise computing task. I can work on university projects entirely on Office and whilst I'm acutely aware iOS has some limitations vs. The full Windows version none of those features are actually deal breakers for me. And when I worked in accounting practices, their use of Excel was so simple that yes, iPad Excel could do the job! They used Sage, which would not be on iPad, but let me note.. they did NOT let anyone take client files home anyway nor expect anyone to work from home on software like that. So I dont consider it a problem as an employee.

SketchUp - It's been years since I made complex models on SketchUp. My life isn't going the direction of using this for career or professional aspects and just like Minecraft, this time sink has gradually stopped being something I did on my MacBook Pro naturally. But I have almost 100 invaluable files and models stored on iCloud. And I can use the SketchUp official viewing app to enjoy them fully if I ever need to look back at them. I'm aware that if I did go back to 3D it'd be the next step to use a more serious program like AutoCAD in general so this isn't much of a problem as a finance student!


So, as for workflow the iPad allows me to organise my life how I've always done, get university work done with no compromises, communicate and enjoy personal media like photos and files.

But since I've been on iPad, I've actually evolved my computing experience.

Scanner Pro has meant scanning tonnes of paperwork files fast and fun. I've gotten rid of so much clutter in favour of digital files. Ready to email in seconds and annotate, even convert to full searchable text. It's amazing how easy this was. I'd have had to spend a weekend using an actual scanner for this. Looking forward to this year of university when I get handouts etc just scanning them and not having to grow so much paper clutter.

PDF Expert is awesome for annotating and editing PDFs. I actually got a part time job from an application that started as an annotated PDF on my iPad. Sure it can be done on PC but a portrait iPad feels more natural and even without an Apple Pencil it's so natural.

iMovie was never an app I've used much before on the Mac, but it's so simple on iPad to group together footage taken from days out and make them to movies. I've enjoyed using it way more on iPad - because I never did on the Mac.

Deep Integration with iPhone - this was a HUGE productivity booster - more than I ever would have imagined. Before my iPhone and Mac synced well as you know from Apple's ecosystem. But now, my iPad - main computer - is literally cloned - on my iPhone like for like almost. My files ALWAYS with me, always where I left them - one single interface. It's always in sync with no effort from me. Never any complications. I can literally work on a Keynote presentation now, be interrupted, set the iPad down and when I'm out and about can access it where I left on my iPhone for reference.

Copy and Paste between devices is also amazing. I can spend ages finding a page or image to share with someone on the iPad, copy it, then Whatsapp is on my iPhone without needing to send it to myself.

The portability of the iPad in an Apple Smart Cover makes it the most portable computer I've ever had. And my MacBook Pro, although heavy always had a sleek and sexy profile that always fitted in any backpack. With the iPad, I dont even feel it in the bag. It fits in the door bin on my car so it can easily be set down there for quick get in and go situations. Sounds novel, but makes a big difference. I'm not as afraid of setting down the back pack anymore like I would with a laptop in it. The iPad takes knocks and bumps with grace like an iPhone.

A Logitech K380 keyboard is a constant companion to the iPad. Just like the case that stands it upright. This Bluetooth keyboard can go back and forward between my iPhone and iPad. So here I am, with MacRumors on the left side of the screen, another app on the right and my iPhone with iMessage propped up next to it. When iOS 11 drops, with the third app on top - that'll make a total of four apps at a time I can use side by side. More than I need. The keyboard has hot keys to switch device at a glance and is quite handy.

And here's something you never expected to hear, but it's the most ergonomic computing experience I've ever had. But before you complain, let me explain why. Using an £8 360 iPad holder to adjust the height and position of the iPad means I'm never bending my neck down, I can always have it the right distance and height for my neck to be straight and eyes to not be straining. Meanwhilst my keyboard is flat on the table or arm of the chair at 90 degrees flat. The MacBook Pro or any laptop involved looking down at a hunchback enduring angle over years - something I always worried about.

I was also planning a new desk setup, which was going to be costly. But instead I bought a bed table called KLIPSK from Ikea (£7) - using this in bed keeps the iPad propped up again in front of me and at the right height whilst I use the keyboard with my arms all conforming to ergonomic rules for comfort. And there's room for paperwork, food, you name it! No need for a desk anymore.

I totally get the criticism of lifting your arms up to use the touchscreen vs. A trackpad and comfortable mouse support. But when you use the iPad like me - in total comfort - and your arms are 90 degrees,flat and supported, you lift your hands up and your elbow is still fully resting on the table or bed.. therefore you arent extending and lifting the whole arm and it's much less tiring. I know how tiring lifting your entire arm repeatedly is! That's why Apple haven't made a touch screen iMac, and to be honest I'm glad of it!

And when I think back to when I bought some nice Macs of the years, I used to plan things like RAM upgrades, SSD upgrades, new accessories and backup drives. A printer maybe. That's all gone now with the iPad - I dont need to keep up with SSDs, RAM or other fun but expensive upgrades. From the £430 I spent, then the £25 on my keyboard and other cheap accessories I've got a totally modern and capable computer that handles my workflow and data perfectly. I can use it almost anywhere in a few more situations than a laptop. It never dies out on me, nor do I have to use it tethered to a power outlet - and the Macs were never bad at that, but the iPad actually outdoes them in that regard.

Now, there's some small imperfections, but not many come to mind. Just things like editing Excel cells with the on screen keyboard, or positioning objects on screen precisely using touch on Keynote etc - but admittedly, using a keyboard fixes both situations. Even selecting text on screen with arrow keys and Copy and Paste with shortcuts is a million times more productive. With a keyboard, the iPad doesn't even suck in that regard but I do recognise it's an example of how it's not 100% for everyone.

Like many people, I dont use specialist movie or programming software and never will. So my mainstream needs are met just fine with iPad.

But all things considered, it's working out fantastically. iOS 11 can only add to the experience and I'd like to imagine iOS 12 will continue that trend. And this is me using a 2017 iPad - non Pro. The Apple Pencil and extra features, if you have the money, would also only add to the experience. But you dont necessarily need it if you feel like you can get by like me!

If anyone has any questions about the iOS lifestyle let me know and I'll give you my opinion or advice on it. I'd recommend it.

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I too have gone mostly fully to iCloud - with some stuff held in onedrive thanks to my office sub, it is great to be able to have everything regularly synced and there whenever you need it. I did function mostly iPad-based for awhile with my 12.9, and I think I could get by with that also - but I do love my 2017 MBP (and for £199 how could I not) even though my activities fit in to the profile of somebody who could go to not owning a computer.
 
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That's an amazingly in-depth review. Congratulations on actually using your iPad virtually as much as anyone could. If you ever get the chance to get one that uses the pencil, you'll be even more productive. I feel a bit embarrassed as I'm a 'It's shiny, I love it!' kind of a person who loves tech but certainly doesn't use it to it's full capacity.

Really, really, 'Good for you!' I am quite humbled by your post.

Thanks, didn't even intend for it to be THAT long, but I'm glad people appreciate and read it. I really can't wait to see if anyone else at my university will turn up with an iPad or Pro, would definitely try the Pencil or at least ask them how they're using it to keep productive. To be fair, most people don't use technology to it's potential and I was the same on my Mac - so much it could do and so little I did! So the iPad suits me more almost for that alone!

Glad to see another Logitech K380 user. I’m in love with mine. It’s the same size as the Apple Magic Keyboard and I can use it on my PlayStation and HTPC without any repairing.

Plus it’s $30, and easy to carry with the iPad at times when I need a keyboard. Many times I don’t and just like to use the leather Smart Cover.

I've had nothing but great experience with it so far! The compactness is great, and surprisingly the rounded keys aren't hard to type on. I find the rounded faces of each key slightly more supportive and I'm quite a fast typist.. when I was doing my A-Levels even most teachers would sort of look as if to say... slow down you mad man! Haha Since going from the MBPs good keyboard, to the ThinkPad's great keyboard I find the K380 as good as both! Easy to slot into a backpack, light but weighty enough to feel like a proper typing instrument - even at the low cost. I also love the fact that's if it breaks or gets on my bad side, there's so much choice for other Bluetooth keyboards. I noticed sometimes a bit of lag on the first few keystrokes but I'd imagine all Bluetooth keyboard are like this. When doing seriously long typing jobs like this, it never misses a beat.

Great review, I love how the iPad ($430) does all this perfectly for you, when I would have used the sketch up files alone as a excuse to get a Pro model.

It's doing phenomenally. I'm aware that in the next two iOS updates it might not fare as favourably to the Pro models, but right now it's never kept me waiting too long for.. well, anything! If I had the money waiting, I'd have found a million excuses to get the Pro, but I felt like since buying the iPhone SE (non latest / fanciest model) worked so well, why not do the same with the iPad since it checks the boxes!

Thanks for posting this review.

I bought the 10.5" pro as I missed having my Air 2 and I am in the process of replacing my MacBook with it (trialling a Smart Keyboard). Whilst I might not be selling the MacBook quite yet (feel like I want it as a backup) I'll be attempting to use the iPad for more of my university work. Certainly once I'm finished I will no longer have a need for the MacBook as all it would be used for is mostly consumption with some small research/journal reading.

It's a refreshing change to see someone openly embracing the iPad as their main/only device and showing just how people with similar uses (myself included) can really make it work.

RESPECT! for this great IRL review. Thanks for sharing!

For people who have already got a MacBook or laptop, I totally understand keeping it. After all, you've made the investment and would probably only lose money. And it's reassuring to have it there in case the iPad ever can't pick up the slack. I think the real question there though is whether or not you intend to replace it down the line with a new Mac - and will you continue to keep your iPad or return to laptop only ownership. You've got the pros of both options so glad to hear you're enjoying it. Personally I can't afford to justify two devices, probably the same for most people. But if since you've got both you can totally make use of both! I'll keep posting my updates and opinions, good and bad about the iPad and hopefully along with your own experiences it'll be helpful.

I took a chance by attending a customer meeting on-site armed only with my 12" iPad Pro rather than my MBP. The long and short of it was that I managed to achieve everything I needed to do with the only tradeoff being that it took considerably longer on the iPad.

I had to produce a Powerpoint with text and graphics taken from other documents on OneDrive, and while I was ultimately successful I know I could have done it in half the time on the MBP. However, I was relieved that I came out on top and the presentation went well. :)

One thing that drives me mad, on this site specifically, is whenever I hit one of the arrow keys on the iPad keyboard cover, rather than actually moving the cursor it just repositions the page right to the massive grey information block at the bottom of every page. I have perfectly good arrow keys but still have to use touch to move the cursor around. It only happens on this site, which is a bit ironic!

It's quite cool to hear you got through it, without compromise other than time. I think as the iPad and iOS gets more 'Pro' orientated, people such as yourself and experiences like that will shape Apple's next steps in terms of UI and heavy workloads taking less time. As more people comment on it taking time, they'll probably find better ways to approach tasks on the iPad. We all know Apple are normally late to the game, but when they catch up they deliver. And it might just be all you need to move to iPad for professional use. Who knows though! And yeah, I'm replying to every reply via multi quote right now using iPad and keyboard and it keeps putting me to the bottom of the page! Very annoying, but something I'm optimistic might either be fixed by iOS 11 or perhaps MR admins if the cause lies on their end?! A few people have commented on that over the past months so let's hope!

Well written, I'm on the new 2017 iPad as well and use it for almost everything other than programming.

Glad to hear of another iPad 2017 user! It's remarkable how capable it is. I think Apple keep that quiet as it'd otherwise halt Pro sales. And to be honest, I want the Pro to sell in huge volumes so that Apple decide to continue taking it in the path of laptop replacement and professional workload cases! Us regular iPad users will continue to piggy back on the Pro's success and direction ;-)

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Thanks! Didn't realise it was so damn long myself! Lol

Nice write up. I can’t go all in on iCloud like that. The advantage to having a “real” computer is offline backups. There is no way I’m trusting iCloud for everything.

Since I was always that way on the Mac and it was stored locally on my hard drive at all times, I felt like it was safe enough for me to always manually retrieve my files. Of course, on the iPad pre iOS 11 that's not the case. But so far it's been fine for me. OneDrive and Microsoft's apps work really really well too on iPad, but as always, that deep integration will never be there on Apple's platform. Though the new Files app might mean you could depend on a service you like more, AND have locally stored file archives? Each to their own though. If I had professional or mission critical work on there I suppose I'd rethink it too!

I too have gone mostly fully to iCloud - with some stuff held in onedrive thanks to my office sub, it is great to be able to have everything regularly synced and there whenever you need it. I did function mostly iPad-based for awhile with my 12.9, and I think I could get by with that also - but I do love my 2017 MBP (and for £199 how could I not) even though my activities fit in to the profile of somebody who could go to not owning a computer.

Personally I find iCloud very reliable and if there has been issues, thankfully it never harmed me personally. I think Steve Jobs anger at the MobileMe team pretty much sealed the quality control over iCloud as much as possible! And I have faith for Apple to fix issues when they do happen swiftly. Hey, if you've got a MBP then of course you'll want to use it, even just to get your money's worth. But they're also beautiful machines and to see it sitting on the shelf would be a true sin! So I suppose just continue to use both! And maybe down the line when one needs replaced you could decide which path you want to go down then?

As pro-iPad I am at the minute, I have to admit it'd be sad to see Apple just drop focus on the Mac altogether. It's such a legendary product line with so many loyal fans. Lots of whom won't like the iOS lifestyle even if it can do their workload. I get that! But only time will tell what Apple's focus is on, and I'd say sales revenue will determine their decisions on that.
 
Thanks, didn't even intend for it to be THAT long, but I'm glad people appreciate and read it. I really can't wait to see if anyone else at my university will turn up with an iPad or Pro, would definitely try the Pencil or at least ask them how they're using it to keep productive. To be fair, most people don't use technology to it's potential and I was the same on my Mac - so much it could do and so little I did! So the iPad suits me more almost for that alone!

The Pencil and the app Notability is the best thing ever! I to switched to solely 12" iPad Pro for work and really looking forward to iOS 11 for more multitasking capability & file manager. The Pencil helps to jot down notes in meetings and Notability just has some features that the Apple Notes app doesn't have.
 
The Pencil and the app Notability is the best thing ever! I to switched to solely 12" iPad Pro for work and really looking forward to iOS 11 for more multitasking capability & file manager. The Pencil helps to jot down notes in meetings and Notability just has some features that the Apple Notes app doesn't have.

Thinking of buying Notability just for the built-in ability to record lectures whilst taking notes!
 
I took a chance by attending a customer meeting on-site armed only with my 12" iPad Pro rather than my MBP. The long and short of it was that I managed to achieve everything I needed to do with the only tradeoff being that it took considerably longer on the iPad.

I had to produce a Powerpoint with text and graphics taken from other documents on OneDrive, and while I was ultimately successful I know I could have done it in half the time on the MBP. However, I was relieved that I came out on top and the presentation went well. :)

One thing that drives me mad, on this site specifically, is whenever I hit one of the arrow keys on the iPad keyboard cover, rather than actually moving the cursor it just repositions the page right to the massive grey information block at the bottom of every page. I have perfectly good arrow keys but still have to use touch to move the cursor around. It only happens on this site, which is a bit ironic!
OH MY GOD I HATE THAT TOO!!!! I think is the only site that does that to me--haven't come across any others as far as I can remember.

But yes--I always like hearing about other iPad success stories. Switching all my workflows to the iPad Pro has been a revelation for me, especially since the 10.5" model came out. Back when iPads first came out, I would have never thought to try using one as my "computer". It made a great book, magazine, TV, web browser, game console, newspaper, etc, but "laptop alternative" never crossed my mind. Since day 1 of the iPad's existence, I have always loved how it could morph into just about any kind of device you needed (something I don't think I can really even say about the iPhone due to its size). With all the advancements in software and hardware, now it can even morph into being my laptop. Probably my favorite device that Apple has ever made. I wanted an iPad even before I ever bought my first iPhone.
 
OH MY GOD I HATE THAT TOO!!!! I think is the only site that does that to me--haven't come across any others as far as I can remember.

But yes--I always like hearing about other iPad success stories. Switching all my workflows to the iPad Pro has been a revelation for me, especially since the 10.5" model came out. Back when iPads first came out, I would have never thought to try using one as my "computer". It made a great book, magazine, TV, web browser, game console, newspaper, etc, but "laptop alternative" never crossed my mind. Since day 1 of the iPad's existence, I have always loved how it could morph into just about any kind of device you needed (something I don't think I can really even say about the iPhone due to its size). With all the advancements in software and hardware, now it can even morph into being my laptop. Probably my favorite device that Apple has ever made. I wanted an iPad even before I ever bought my first iPhone.

Ever since I saw Apple's promotional videos for each app and the actors sitting down on the sofa etc flicking through email I thought... yes, this is the coolest way to achieve tasks ever!!! Ended up getting an iPad 2 in 2011
 
Ever since I saw Apple's promotional videos for each app and the actors sitting down on the sofa etc flicking through email I thought... yes, this is the coolest way to achieve tasks ever!!! Ended up getting an iPad 2 in 2011
Same--I passed on the first gen model because I just couldn't afford it at the time, but jumped on the iPad 2 immediately. Went iPad 2--> new iPad with retina-->iPad Air 1-->iPad mini 3-->iPad Pro 9.7"-->iPad Pro 10.5". I have to admit, I had kind of given up on the iPad for a while as my "main" machine, but when all the split view and PiP stuff started happening in iOS, and the Pro hardware started hitting the scene, I realized that instead of buying a new Macbook Pro, I should have bought an iPad Pro. Sold one to pay for the other and haven't looked back.
 
Just thought I would mention that the Apple Magic Keyboard has much less lag than other bluetooth keyboards. It also has an advantage of charging via lightning cable and showing its battery level in the iPad's battery widget. Unfortunately, it cannot toggle between two bluetooth devices like the Logitech can.
 
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Just thought I would mention that the Apple Magic Keyboard has much less lag than other bluetooth keyboards. It also has an advantage of charging via lightning cable and showing its battery level in the iPad's battery widget. Unfortunately, it cannot toggle between two bluetooth devices like the Logitech can.

The Apple Magic Keyboard is also very light. Only 1/2 lb per Apple Store. Alas, as with most Apple accessories, it is very expensive......$100.

That said, a stand alone keyboard for an iPad should last a very long time through multiple iPad replacement cycles. Most of the time, I use the virtual keyboard and don't even have the Bluetooth keyboard with me. Also, with the enhanced Quick Type Keyboard for iOS 11, I expect to be using the virtual keyboard even more. Nevertheless, a Full sized physical keyboard can make a huge difference when you have a large document to create, so having a good Bluetooth Keyboard is pretty important if you are going to make the iPad 2017 your primary device.
 
I'm also trying to go mostly Ipad workflow. My Ipad history: went from Ipad1, Ipad3(thumbs down), Ipad Air1, Ipad Pro 12.9 1st gen, Ipad Pro 10.5, Ipad Pro 12.9 2nd gen, then now back to Ipad Pro 10.5 (final). LOL.

I have a 2012 Quad Core I7 Mac Mini that I use for video edits, etc. I also have a specced out PC gaming machine (1080Ti Vid card, Intel 6700k CPU, etc). (side note: My wife has a late 2013 macbook pro that I use occasionally if I need a portable Mac OS machine).

I was thinking of getting the latest Macbook Pro without Touch Bar but decided against it. It would have been a waste since I have two more than capable desktops and access to MBP. My need for a laptop has surely decreased. Remoting into a PC or desktop is tolerable on an ipad.

The iPad Pro can be overkill for daily tasks but I appreciate how fast and how gorgeous the screen is. When I'm forced to go to desktop for whatever reason, I don't hold it against the ipad. This will be soon addressed in IOS 11. Can't wait for IoS 11.

Ipad as my main device is looking promising.

p.s. - I went from the ipad pro 10.5 to 12.9 and back to 10.5 because the size of the 12.9 started to get annoying as I started using the ipad more as my daily driver. My previous experience with my 1st gen 12.9 IPP - I had left it on my desk many times due to its size. I now carry my 10.5 IPP everywhere. It's size is very close to the 9.7 ipads.

I also went with the Apple Smart Keyboard as it functioned both as a smart cover and on-demand keyboard.
 
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Like the OP, I was motivated by the upcoming iOS11 iPad specific enhancements, so I purchased a base iPad 2017 to experiment with using it as my primary device. We have a family Mac Mini that my wife primarily uses for Quicken and family email etc.., so I just log into my iCloud.com account when I need to download a file and work on a full desktop. Frankly, this almost never happens because I can be productive on the iPad.

I have been very pleased with how much I can get done on this inexpensive entry level iPad. For the most part, I just use the virtual keyboard, which should get even better with iOS11 Quick Type. Sometimes, I need to do significant content creation, and I use an older orginal Apple Bluthooth Keyboard that we had available in the house. It works great, and when combined with predefined iWork templates, I can create pretty nice documents relatively quickly and easily with this setup. Also, it helps to learn a few of the more useful keyboard shortcuts.....drastically simplifies certain tasks.

The discussion about using the iPad as a primary device has raged since the device was first launched in 2010. But, it seem to be approaching a tipping point for lots of folks that are finding they can function effectively with an iPad. Setting aside the Pro for a moment, the evolution of the entry level iPad has been pretty impressive over the last 7 years. Here is a list:

  • 2gb RAM vs 250mb
  • 32 GB storage vs 16GB
  • Retina Display vs Standard HD Display
  • 1 lb. vs 1.5lbs
  • .29 in thick vs .5 in
  • Front and rear cameras vs no camera
  • Auto sleep/wake
  • Touch ID and Apple Wallet
  • Air Play and Air Printing
  • Siri
  • Handoff and Continuity
  • Multitasking Gestures & Virtual Trackpad
  • Slide over & App switcher
  • iCloud, iCloud Drive and wireless backups
  • Attach multiple files to an email
  • iMessage and FaceTime
  • Collaboration
  • Notifications
  • Control Center
  • Picture in picture capability
  • Find my iPhone or iPad and Find my Friends
  • Improvements/refinements to iWork, iMovie, Photo, etc.
  • Coming to iOS 11: drag/drop, dock, Quick Type virtual keyboard, File App
  • $330 vs $500 entry level pricing
 
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Just thought I would mention that the Apple Magic Keyboard has much less lag than other bluetooth keyboards. It also has an advantage of charging via lightning cable and showing its battery level in the iPad's battery widget. Unfortunately, it cannot toggle between two bluetooth devices like the Logitech can.
This. Back when I was on the iPad Air 1, I tried using it paired with a bluetooth keyboard as my main device. The experiment was a failure for two reasons: iOS and the apps available at the time were just not there yet, and I hated every bluetooth keyboard case I tried. Apple and app developers have solved all my personal software problems at this point, but I will never use a non Smart Connector compatible keyboard on my iPad Pro. I had all kinds of issues with lag, and bluetooth keyboard makers seem to make some really weird decisions on key placement sometimes.
 
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Great review, good to hear it's working out for you!

Personally, I could never have gotten through my Bachelors degree on an iPad (majored in Finance, just like you).

The calculations we did in both R and Excel could never have been done on an iPad. I even struggled with the worthless MacOS version of Excel on my MBP. As much as I love my Macs, I think a Surface Pro would have been the better choice for my studies. OneNote and the Surface functionality just seems fantastic (video and sound recordings, writing equations, handwriting recognition et.c).
 
This. Back when I was on the iPad Air 1, I tried using it paired with a bluetooth keyboard as my main device. The experiment was a failure for two reasons: iOS and the apps available at the time were just not there yet, and I hated every bluetooth keyboard case I tried. Apple and app developers have solved all my personal software problems at this point, but I will never use a non Smart Connector compatible keyboard on my iPad Pro. I had all kinds of issues with lag, and bluetooth keyboard makers seem to make some really weird decisions on key placement sometimes.

Funny enough, my experience with an Anker Bluetooth keyboard right now along with the new iPad 2017 has been more than awesome. I've not experienced any lag at all.
 
Great review, good to hear it's working out for you!

Personally, I could never have gotten through my Bachelors degree on an iPad (majored in Finance, just like you).

The calculations we did in both R and Excel could never have been done on an iPad. I even struggled with the worthless MacOS version of Excel on my MBP. As much as I love my Macs, I think a Surface Pro would have been the better choice for my studies. OneNote and the Surface functionality just seems fantastic (video and sound recordings, writing equations, handwriting recognition et.c).

I agree that, for the most part, college students should stick to a laptop while in school. With spreadsheets, presentations, and papers/reports, college students do a ton of keyboarding and also need a mouse for precision navigation.

However, after graduation in the working world, most employers provide a computer to their staff. In fact, due to proprietary software and security issues, they don't want employees using personal laptops for work. At that point, many people can move to an iPad as a primary personal computing device, since their specific work related needs are satisfied by an employer provided computer.
 
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