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Industrial/Product Designer Setups

I would assume i would get a legal seat for my personal computer from the boss.... but i mean, should work makes me uneasy, does work (xp) sounds better. haha
 
dell do an option with both a vista business (I'm assuming upgrade) and xp in it so this might be the route to take.

Or atleast they do in the UK.
 
LeviG, could you please explain this dell option to me. I have seen it on the Canadian site too, where is says "Genuine Windows Vista Business Downgrade, XP Pro installed" I wasn't really sure what this meant, how would it have both. Thanks for your help.
 
more info is on the dell site but you have to search for it but basic jist (from memory) is you get 2 install disks, one is vista business and one is xp pro sp3. You can then pick the one you want to use, I think it comes with xp installed and dell says something like you use xp until you or your software is ready to upgrade to vista, the best of both worlds.

I'm not 100% certain on the type of os you get (ie oem/upgrade) so I couldn't say if you could do a dual boot but for someone who isn't sure about vista then this could be the route to take.
 
This may be a logical option. Try installing sw07 on vista, if it doesnt work, use the dell system restore, and do it all with xp. Its an idea. Really it comes down to a waiting game, see what dell does with the precision in sept, see what apple does with the mbp, and see what hp does.... then the big decision, in time for xmas
 
I hate the waiting game to see when these laptops come out haha. Anyways, i dont think i have asked before, but does anyone here actually use a laptop with solidworks. If so, what is your weapon of choice. Thanks again
 
stewartlittle said:
I hate the waiting game to see when these laptops come out haha. Anyways, i dont think i have asked before, but does anyone here actually use a laptop with solidworks. If so, what is your weapon of choice. Thanks again
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Hi SL,

In my post on Aug 14, 2008, 10:10 AM I wrote in reference to a guy running Solidworks on a laptop, specifically a MBP.

"Hi again SL. I just ran across this LOOOONG thread doing a Google search for "Solidworks Mac". Lots of interesting comments. TStaples works in automotive and has several posts. He runs Solidworks on a MacBook Pro and is very positive about it. That said, it's worth fighting your way through the other posts for both conformation and other opinions to get a balanced view."

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.c...=181459&page=1

If you want to talk with him, you might be able to track him down using this as a starting point:

http://www.eng-tips.com/userinfo.cfm?member=TStaples

Good luck!
 
Thanks JWH2, yea i read through that lengthy convo as well. I might try contacting him for specific questions.
 
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Ok, here's my opinion based upon my short experience.
First, I'm not a designer yet, I'm still in university, and my weapon of choice is a macbook mostly because of the portability. In my 3rd year I used it (2.0Ghz CoreDuo, 2GB RAM) via Boot Camp with no many performance problems except for the tiny monitor. I used to conceptualize first in paper, work the product requirements with a little help of the mac, sketch in paper and if I needed to see a bare 3d sketch went to SketchUP... no need for Windows until now. Then I used Xp (never the self destructive Vista) via Boot Camp, to work on Autodesk Inventor 9. I can tell you it was way more responsive than the 2GB RAM Pentium D's in classroom.

I made a FAT32 partition for Xp so I can see and change the content once in Mac OS, if the partition is in NTFS you can only see its content and copy it. Now for my 4th year I have a black Macbook (2.2Ghz Core2Duo, 4GB RAM) and a 22" Samsung Monitor. I've tried my Inventor on VMWare Fusion and it's good but not enough to do hard work so I still recommend usin Boot Camp.

By the way, for the post-production I use Photoshop/Illustrator CS3 and Keynote. The CS3 runs better on mac than on any other computer, and keynote is way more professional and stylish and easy to use than PowerPoint, and is only for mac. My designs cause more impact with a little help from Keynote, really.
 
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As I said, I'm not an industrial designer yet, so maybe I don't do massive work like you probably do.
 
The DESIGN matter

Ok, my second reason for using macs is a matter of GOOD DESIGN. I'm pretty sure when you plan to buy a chair you instantly think of a Panton or a Jacobsen one, don't you? and the premium you would pay is worth.

Macs look better inside and outside, and the way Leopard works makes your time more productive.

Greetings from Venezuela. Hope to be helpful.
 
etequetaqui said:
Ok, my second reason for using macs is a matter of GOOD DESIGN. I'm pretty sure when you plan to buy a chair you instantly think of a Panton or a Jacobsen one, don't you? and the premium you would pay is worth.
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Using a mac doesn't make you a good designer and any company worth their salt would know this. As to chairs I wouldn't think of Panton or jacobson (yes I know some of the chairs but they're not top of the list) in a million years. The first ones in my head would be charles/ray eames, renee mckintosh, corbusier and probably Phillippe starck.

Macs look better inside and outside, and the way Leopard works makes your time more productive.
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But is switching to bootcamp to use solidworks and then back to os-x productive, personally I don't think it is.

And don't get me wrong here but inventor isn't as system heavy as solidworks and pentium d's are slow to start with so comparing a c2d macbook to one is like comparing a single core to a dual core.
 
I agree it might get tiresome after awhile.....switching back and forth often. Especially when it comes to photoworks, rendering, then dropping images in ps and putting boards together. I agree, macs do get attention, for instance, i went and sat at my girlfriends restaurant the other day with a coworkers mac, instant i had a man come up to me, asking what type of work i do. But i still dont know if that is enough to sell me on a mac over a pc. Just my opinion
 
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Ok, the Panton/Jacobsen thing was for an example. The point was that as designers we (or at least I) care about well designed stuff, and getting noticed is not the reason, the satisfaction is personal, the same way a greanpeace activist would probably adopt a dog instead of buying an expensive one with pedigree.

I'm not saying if a had to work selling lemonade I would use the Starck lemon squeezer, because I wouldn't get the work done, but in my experience this Leopard-restart-Xp-restart-Leopard procedure is waaaay less frustrating than working full time in a Vista or Xp Dell. I just try to do the most part in Mac OS before switching. I you haven't tried a Mac awhile you should to notice the difference.
 
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By the way, I can't afford two computers. Maybe it would be the best alternative, a PC for 3D modelling and a Mac for everything else :) .
 
I doubt I will get both, unless my boss ships my desktop over, then I purchase a mbp myself. In a dream world, this would be great, but I doubt it would happen. I agree looks are part of it, and if I were to buy a machine, if both had the same specs, I would buy the one that looks more aestetically pleasing, but, the question is, does running SW on bootcamp, work as well as running it on a windows based laptop. Cause realistically, I will upgrade the mbp to 4gb, but i will do the same to a pc. So I dont know.
 
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