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intel makes release for 510 ssd updated with G3 320 ssd info

philipma1957

philipma1957

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http://newsroom.intel.com/community...es-featuring-super-fast-6gbps-sata-throughput

demo video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1lFXGpMDf4&feature=player_embedded#at=32


below is from the products pdf

 Capacity: 120 GB, 250 GB  Components: Intel® 34nm NAND Flash Memory
Multi-Level Cell (MLC)  Form Factor: 2.5-inch — Thickness: 9.5 mm
— Weight: 80 ±2 grams
 SATA 6Gb/s Sustained Bandwidth Performance
(Iometer* Queue Depth 32)
— 250 GB: Sequential Read: Up to 500 MB/s Sequential Write: Up to 315 MB/s
— 120 GB: Sequential Read: Up to 450 MB/s Sequential Write: Up to 210 MB/s
 Read and Write IOPS (Iometer Queue Depth 32) — Random 4 KB Reads: Up to 20,000 IOPS — Random 4 KB Writes: Up to 8,000 IOPS
Product Specification
 Power Management —5VSATA — SATA interface power management — OS-aware hot plug/removal
 Power — Active (MobileMark* 2007 Workload):
380 mW (TYP) — Idle: 100 mW (TYP)
 Temperature — Operating: 0o C to 70o C — Non-Operating: -55o C to 95o C
 Reliability — Uncorrectable Bit Error Rate (UBER):
— Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF): 1,200,000 hours
 Shock (operating and non-operating) — 1,500 G/0.5 msec
 Latency — Read: 65 μs — Write: 80 μs RMS
1 sector per 1016 bits read
 Compatibility — Intel® SSD Toolbox with Intel® SSD Optimizer — Intel® Data Migration Software — Intel® Rapid Storage Technology — SATA Revision 3.0 — ATA8-ACS — SSD-enhanced S.M.A.R.T. ATA feature set — Native Command Queuing (NCQ)
command set
— Data Set Management Command Trim attribute
 Vibration — Operating: 2.17 G (7-800 Hz) — Non-operating: 3.08 GRMS (7-800 Hz)
 Certifications and Declarations: — UL*
— CE* — C-Tick* — BSMI* — KCC* — Microsoft* WHQL — VCCI* — SATA-IO*
 Product Ecological Compliance — RoHS*


review




http://www.storagereview.com/intel_ssd_510_review_250gb
 
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20,000 iops and 8,000 iops for this unit in a 250gb

vs


35,000 iops and 8,600 iops in a g2 160gb



does make you wonder why the slowdown. now lacie will have a T-bolt raid0 unit. will it be able to add the 20,000 and 8,000 giving you a 40,000 iop and 16,000 iop while doing raid0?

one of the biggest reasons not to do raid0 as a boot drive was random read writes don't gain much as that.


If now you can just add them up like you do through put speeds then there is a real breakthrough in this area. Maybe due to the added badwidth of t-bolt, if not this is more or less just a little bit of a speed bump.


It would be really nice if the new lacie just doubles everything with raid0. or a factor of 1.75 to 1.9. Of course no one is sure if it will even work as a boot drive.
 
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I currently have the Intel G2 160GB SSD... Would you advise an upgrade to the 510 120GB? Speed difference?
 
3587 said:
I currently have the Intel G2 160GB SSD... Would you advise an upgrade to the 510 120GB? Speed difference?
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For what?
Scratch disc? Yes, that would probably make a huge difference.
OS/app disc? No, considering the IOPS, it will probably be slower at random speeds, as said before.

However, it's too early to tell. I'm sure Anand will review the drive soon.
 
Cynicalone said:
I was hoping for more capacity.

My 160GB G2 could be used for so much more if it wasn't about 75% full.

I wonder if we will see 500GB+ models added later this year?

Newegg has them up for order at $615 USD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167043
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Bigger would be nice. I am going to wait for the lacie raid0 t-Bolt drive. will come with a pair of the intel 250's it will give you 500gb... I am really interested in the ability of this unit in a raid0.


I want to see if the random access improvement come close to 1.7x or is a the more typical 1.1x to 1.15x. Most likely will need to see the lacie tested with a 15 inch macbook pro or a new yet to be issued iMac.



I found preorder at amazon for 583 free shipping.



http://www.amazon.com/Intel-2-5-Inc...3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1299007511&sr=1-3


I ordered it since I won't be charged until it shows up I have a price lock at 583 this way.


It is the sata 3 version. I am thinking it may be pretty fast inside a new macbook pro. I can always cancel the order.

If I get it I will test in the macmini and the mac pro.
 
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This is an odd product release by Intel.

First of all, it still uses 32nm NAND. Secondly, it uses a Marvel controller (since when does Intel ever use another companies silicon like this?!). Finally, as pointed out above, its 4K random performance is not as good as prior gen (probably due to the Marvel Controller). :confused:

This seems to be a marketing play... High sequential reads/writes sells drives I guess.

The other possibility is that Intel is having trouble coming up with a competitive 25nm SSD product or it's taking them longer than expected to work out the kinks in their 3rd gen controller.

Either way, with the 510, it's a case of "There's nothing to see here, move along" :)
 
VirtualRain said:
This is an odd product release by Intel.

First of all, it still uses 32nm NAND. Secondly, it uses a Marvel controller (since when does Intel ever use another companies silicon like this?!). Finally, as pointed out above, its 4K random performance is not as good as prior gen (probably due to the Marvel Controller). :confused:
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They use a Marvel Controller? That was new to me. Do you have a source for that?
That would be ridiculous. If there's an Intel label on the drive, I want Intel inside as well. Otherwise, one could just buy another Marvel drive, such as Crucial C300/400.


VirtualRain said:
Either way, with the 510, it's a case of "There's nothing to see here, move along" :)
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Copy that!
 
Icaras said:
By the way, not sure if this was mentioned anywhere on the Mac Pro forums (someone found this on MBP forums), but the official g3s, the 320s has a release for mid-April.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-solid-state-drive-320-series-to-launch-mid-april/11407.html
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the specs for the 320 series are interesting:





Codenamed 'Postville Refresh', the Intel Solid State Drive 320 Series is the long-awaited successor to the highly popular mainstream X25-M solid state drive (SSD).

Slated for a mid-April launch, the 2.5-inch 9.5mm 320 Series will use 25nm MLC NAND and is available in five capacities: 40GB, 80GB, 160GB, 300GB and 600GB.

The 320 Series will be pushed as 'the fast hard drive alternative' with performance and data reliability as two key focus areas.

Final performance figures and drive lifespan are not available yet, but we do expect them to be pretty much the same as rumored specifications so far:

250MB/sec read, 170MB/sec write
Up to 50K and 40K IOPS for random 4KB read and write respectively
30TB to 60TB worth of 4KB random writes


I am liking the 600GB SIZE along with the 4KB read and write numbers.
 
philipma1957 said:
Final performance figures and drive lifespan are not available yet, but we do expect them to be pretty much the same as rumored specifications so far:

250MB/sec read, 170MB/sec write
Up to 50K and 40K IOPS for random 4KB read and write respectively
30TB to 60TB worth of 4KB random writes
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Given that the 320 is supposed be support 6Gb/s SATA, the sequential speeds seem completely unrealistic.
Those numbers (including the IOPS) are exactly the same as for the current x25 SLC drive. I don't know where the source got these numbers, but I don't think they are right.
 
well april is close enough to wait.

I would like to see a good price for the 600gb size 700 to 800 would be nice. Under $1.50 USD per gb. Means it needs to be lower then 899USD.
 
600GB would be very nice if the specs are good.

Might finally have an SSD boot drive that isn't space constrained.

I suppose the cost would be around $1200 to $1500 USD at launch. Seems reasonable if the reviews are good.
 
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