Intel officially kills mobile processor line.

[smoledman]

http://www.neowin.net/news/intel-ca...gives-up-on-smartphones-pulls-back-on-tablets

Safe to say, ARM has won the mobile war and x86 is a dead-end except on servers. Even with servers, I see ARM taking over in the next 10-15 years.

Anyone pursuing a career on x86 platforms past 5 years from now is a total idiot.

 

[phrehdd]

"Intel is now out of the smartphone and tablet race. Apollo Lake will still exist in the form of Pentium and Celeron, but it's time to say good-bye to Atom-branded SoCs."

So, this is just about phones and tablets. It seems there is an entire other world of hardware that will continue with the x86 platform (beyond servers).

 

[smoledman]

Why does anyone need Intel? ARM powers phone, tablet, laptops, IOT, servers. ARM does it all and at less cost and not beholden to a monolith(Intel). Intel is on the way to dissolution like Kodak.

 

[phrehdd]

So at each level of processor speed does ARM match Intel or the Intel counterpart of AMD's offerings?

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

This worries me that someone may try to buy out those assets.

 

[Tech198]

Why does anyone need Intel? ARM powers phone, tablet, laptops, IOT, servers. ARM does it all and at less cost and not beholden to a monolith(Intel). Intel is on the way to dissolution like Kodak.

ARM = low power

 

[Pakaku]

Why does anyone need Intel? ARM powers phone, tablet, laptops, IOT, servers. ARM does it all and at less cost and not beholden to a monolith(Intel). Intel is on the way to dissolution like Kodak.

I can't see Intel disappearing for at least very long time. This isn't something relatively-small like Apple and the iPhone, this is the company making processors for a huge scope of technology and more than just Apple's brand.

 

[Fancuku]

Why does anyone need Intel? ARM powers phone, tablet, laptops, IOT, servers. ARM does it all and at less cost and not beholden to a monolith(Intel). Intel is on the way to dissolution like Kodak.

ARM is for toys.

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

Why does anyone need Intel?

For performance.

ARM powers phone, tablet, laptops, IOT, servers.

Applications and OSs need fitting hardware, such as Intel or AMD processors.

ARM does it all and at less cost and not beholden to a monolith(Intel).

I do not see ARM processors which are cheaper than the equivalent Intel processors.

 

[maflynn]

ARM is for toys.

I have to disagree, the iPad pro is a good work horse, and it's performance rivals that of Apple's laptops. I don't own one, but the A9x is a pretty powerful CPU

 

[phrehdd]

I have to disagree, the iPad pro is a good work horse, and it's performance rivals that of Apple's laptops. I don't own one, but the A9x is a pretty powerful CPU

You folks might enjoy this with test graphs showing some comparisons.

http://barefeats.com/ipadpro2.html

Elsewhere, if I had to compare the larger and smaller pro models, I think the 9" is a better deal except for RAM.

 

[Fancuku]

I have to disagree, the iPad pro is a good work horse, and it's performance rivals that of Apple's laptops. I don't own one, but the A9x is a pretty powerful CPU

I don't know if it's a fair comparison. One runs a mobile OS while the other runs a full desktop OS.

 

[maflynn]

I don't know if it's a fair comparison. One runs a mobile OS while the other runs a full desktop OS.

No question, that the iPad Pro is hampered by its reliance on a mobile OS, but even so, its more then a toy. Heck, I use my iPad Mini for MS Office apps.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

I like that there are actual computer enthusiasts dedicated enough to post on a website dedicated to a computer company, yet you can't possibly imagine what use an Intel processor has in this world, since your can edit text documents on your phone.

I ride a bicycle to the office. Therefore cargo ships are obsolete.

 

[Trey M]

No question, that the iPad Pro is hampered by its reliance on a mobile OS, but even so, its more then a toy. Heck, I use my iPad Mini for MS Office apps.

Yeah I'll say the reason I won't try an iPad is the fact that it is so hampered by the OS. To each their own, some prefer Windows laptops, some prefer Mac laptops, some prefer iPads for certain activities. I love the iPad hardware and the overall concept of a tablet however I just can't get past iOS limitations.

 

[Zirel]

I like that there are actual computer enthusiasts dedicated enough to post on a website dedicated to a computer company, yet you can't possibly imagine what use an Intel processor has in this world, since your can edit text documents on your phone.

I ride a bicycle to the office. Therefore cargo ships are obsolete.

Doesn't work that way.

ARM chips can do everything Intel chips can do. They run Linux, they run Windows and they surely can run OS X.

A bicycle obviously can not do what a cargo ship can do.

Sooner or later, Intel chips will be replaced by ARMs. They offer more performance per watt, they offer more bang for buck, they offer multiple supplier options for OEMs. What is keeping Intel in their place right now is inertia.

 

[I7guy]

Doesn't work that way.

ARM chips can do everything Intel chips can do. They run Linux, they run Windows and they surely can run OS X.

A bicycle obviously can not do what a cargo ship can do.

Sooner or later, Intel chips will be replaced by ARMs. They offer more performance per watt, they offer more bang for buck, they offer multiple supplier options for OEMs. What is keeping Intel in their place right now is inertia.

That inertia is massive with basically the era of modern computing behind it. It will take a millennium before x86 fades away.

 

[Zirel]

That inertia is massive with basically the era of modern computing behind it. It will take a millennium before x86 fades away.

Not if Apple does the same thing they did with the PPC transition, and put an emulator.

 

[I7guy]

Not if Apple does the same thing they did with the PPC transition, and put an emulator.

An emulator won't cut it. At any rate it's like saying gasoline won't be here in 5 years; I don't see c86 being displayed in the markets it's in, unless Intel screws up. Arm doesn't have to worry about running software from pc-dos days; quite the nice luxury to have.

 

[Zirel]

An emulator won't cut it. At any rate it's like saying gasoline won't be here in 5 years; I don't see c86 being displayed in the markets it's in, unless Intel screws up. Arm doesn't have to worry about running software from pc-dos days; quite the nice luxury to have.

Why won't cut it?

Processors this days are way too powerful for the software. A 10% cut in performance vs native won't matter, specially considering that it would be just a question of time for software makers to recompile an ARM version, and distribute it alongside the x86 version.

The real problem here would be the Windows mess...

 

[I7guy]

Why won't cut it?

Processors this days are way too powerful for the software. A 10% cut in performance vs native won't matter, specially considering that it would be just a question of time for software makers to recompile an ARM version, and distribute it alongside the x86 version.

The real problem here would be the Windows mess...

Processors are much to powerful on mobile devices. On my home desktop I regularly run simulations that keep my cup pegged for hours at a time.

Windows isn't the issue.

 

[Zirel]

Processors are much to powerful on mobile devices. On my home desktop I regularly run simulations that keep my cup pegged for hours at a time.

Windows isn't the issue.

And you run those simulations where?

Pretty sure that those programs can be ported to another architecture easily.

 

[I7guy]

And you run those simulations where?

Pretty sure that those programs can be ported to another architecture easily.

Pretty sure that arm isn't replacing x86 anytime soon as I said. But I agree anything can be ported to anything. Arm can be ported to x86.

 

[jerwin]

So at each level of processor speed does ARM match Intel or the Intel counterpart of AMD's offerings?

Definitely, yes.

Just look at the benchmarks.

One is a 144 core Intel Server. The other is a cell phone running on ARM.