Other Interesting Article re iPhone 15 in Sydney Morning Herald

[Boeingfan]

I thought I'd share this story from today's Sydney Morning Herald. It's an interesting read which also gives the reader insights into the way Apple does things compared to other companies:

For $1500, does the iPhone 15 do enough?

Cheers.

 

[sack_peak]

Must be tough living in AU.

What these comparison articles between iPhone to Android lack is a point to point review and historical reason why Apple delayed certain features. You need to consider the totality of the product & services we pay for rather than just say... color of the paint used.

Like AMOLED displays. IIRC the 1st Android to get it was in 2010. iPhone got theirs in 2017. In the 7 years leading to the iPhone getting theirs Android fans kept talking about how thin the phone was or how black the black was.

It was seldom addressed about AMOLED burn-in and color accuracy. Most persons would lump AMOLED into one monolith of a standard without any variations of quality.

Apple's AMOLED iPhones do not suffer burn-in or color inaccuracy. I have a 2015 Google Nexus 6P with an AMOLED display and it burned-in, boot lopped & bad battery in less than 12 months. Price diff between it and the 2015 iPhone was significant. Android fans snered at the more expensive iPhone.

Within 12 months of the Android purchase the manufacturing defects made itself apparent. Lucky if you live in the US or other nation that has very good consumer protection laws but for us who did not buy in the US you're s out of luck.

If I could do my purchase all over again I would have only stuck to a $50 Android One phone to learn the current stock Android version. If it breaks like the Nexus or a 2017 Essential PH-1 phone then I'm just out of $50 rather than 10-20x that. If by miracle a $50 phone lasts 3+ years then I'd be able to give it away to anyone as what is $50 after 3+ years?

Last I heard from the buyer of my 2015 iPhone he only needed to replace the battery and it was snappy for what he needed to do.

With Apple when they do a recall it is global even with our very bad consumer protection laws. I recall getting a free logic board for my out of warranty iBook during the PPC days. My mom's 2014 iPhone 6 Plus was replaced for free by Apple due to a faulty camera.

We are exiting 2023 already and 6+ years later the iPhone X has yet to have any sort of outrage on niche iPhone forums much less the general public at large.

Ultimately Apple believes that their users who regularly update their devices whether it be 4 years for macOS and tvOS devices and 3 years for iOS, iPadOS, and watchOS devices will demand a hassle-free & trouble-free experience.

Those who criticize Apple's lux pricing may want to account for the troubleshooting they need to do whenever something fails. Downtime is downtime. An inconvenience for most consumers but a financial burden for those using it as a business too.

Apple's branding is very important. It reassures anyone buying that it is least likely to encounter problems years later.

Now, if only Apple released a larger than iMac 24" M3 before April 2024 I'm ready to replace a by then dozen year old iMac 27".

I am excited to jump from a 22nm Intel chip to a 3nm Mac chip that outperforms even a 2019 Mac Pro Xeon.

Because of how durable Macs are I'd likely keep it until Q1 2034. By then will RAM be in TB and SSD be in the PB?

 

[Nozuka]

He writes

"During its big iPhone 15 reveal event last week, Apple made a point of saying that its iPhones had grown in value and capability over the last year, but hadn’t raised at all in price. But that’s really only true in the US.

In Australia and in many other markets, the iPhone 15 is more expensive than the iPhone 14 was, presumably because of currency fluctuations."

But forgets to mention that in "many other markets" the price was actually lowered, because of the same fluctuations.
It really isn't just a one way street.



And people seem to think that these new components are just available in endless supply. They are not. They often take a while to scale and Apple needs them in millions. No one sells more of the same models than Apple.

For reference:
The top 10 phones in the first half of 2023 are:

1. Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max: 26.5 million
2. Apple iPhone Pro: 21 million
3. Apple iPhone 14: 16.5 million
4. Apple iPhone 13: 15.5 million
5. Samsung Galaxy A14: 12.4 million
6. Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra: 9.6 million
7. Samsung Galaxy A14 5G: 9 million
8. Samsung Galaxy A54 5G:8.8 million
9. Samsung Galaxy A34 5G: 7.1 million
10. Apple iPhone 11: 6.9 million

If Apple adds a new sensor or whatever to both Pro and Pro Max, they need almost 50 million in half a year. Let that sink in.

I suspect this is the real reason the periscope only made it into the Max this year and not the space requirements. It will magically be added to the Pro next year, when production has been scaled enough.

 

[Boeingfan]

Must be tough living in AU.

What these comparison articles between iPhone to Android lack is a point to point review and historical reason why Apple delayed certain features. You need to consider the totality of the product & services we pay for rather than just say... color of the paint used.

Like AMOLED displays. IIRC the 1st Android to get it was in 2010. iPhone got theirs in 2017. In the 7 years leading to the iPhone getting theirs Android fans kept talking about how thin the phone was or how black the black was.

It was seldom addressed about AMOLED burn-in and color accuracy. Most persons would lump AMOLED into one monolith of a standard without any variations of quality.

Apple's AMOLED iPhones do not suffer burn-in or color inaccuracy. I had a 2015 Google Nexus 6P with an AMOLED display and it burned-in in less than 12 months. Price diff between it and the 2015 iPhone was significant. Within 12 months of purchase the manufacturing defects made itself apparent. Lucky if you live in the US or other nation that has very good consumer protection laws but for us who did not buy in the US you're s out of luck.

If I could do my purchase all over again I would have only stuck to a $50 Android One phone to learn the current stock Android version. If it breaks like the Nexus or a 2017 Essential PH-1 phone then I'm just out of $50 rather than 10-20x that. If by miracle a $50 phone lasts 3+ years then I'd be able to give it away to anyone as what is $50 after 3+ years?

With Apple when they do a recall it is global even with our very bad consumer protection laws. I recall getting a free logic board for my out of warranty iBook during the PPC days. My mom's 2014 iPhone 6 Plus was replaced for free by Apple due to a faulty camera.

We are exiting 2023 already and 6+ years later the iPhone X has yet to have any sort of outrage on niche iPhone forums much less the general public at large.

Ultimately Apple believes that their users who regularly update their devices whether it be 4 years for macOS and tvOS devices and 3 years for iOS, iPadOS, and watchOS devices will want a hassle-free & trouble-free experience.

Those who criticize Apple's lux pricing may want to account for the troubleshooting they need to do whenever something fails. Downtime is downtime. An inconvenience for most consumers but a financial burden for those using it as a business too.

Apple's branding is very important. It reassures anyone buying that it is least likely to encounter problems years later.

Now, if only Apple released a larger than iMac 24" M3 before April 2024 I'm ready to replace a by then dozen year old iMac 27".

I am excited to jump from a 22nm Intel chip to a 3nm Mac chip that outperforms even a 2019 Mac Pro Xeon.

Great reply, thank you, I enjoyed reading that. It's not tough living here, we have great consumer laws. I wanted to share the article because it wasn't the cookie cutter standard comparison between the new and the old, it included the why, and I liked that very much. There is a lot to be said for the holistic manufacturing as I do genuinely believe it delivers a superior product. Being at razor edge of new tech adoption is risky so I appreciate the cautious approach. Cheers.

 

[Boeingfan]

He writes

"During its big iPhone 15 reveal event last week, Apple made a point of saying that its iPhones had grown in value and capability over the last year, but hadn’t raised at all in price. But that’s really only true in the US.

In Australia and in many other markets, the iPhone 15 is more expensive than the iPhone 14 was, presumably because of currency fluctuations."

But forgets to mention that in "many other markets" the price was actually lowered, because of the same fluctuations.
It really isn't just a one way street.



And people seem to think that these new components are just available in endless supply. They are not. They often take a while to scale and Apple needs them in millions. No one sells more of the same models than Apple.

For reference:
The top 10 phones in the first half of 2023 are:

1. Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max: 26.5 million
2. Apple iPhone Pro: 21 million
3. Apple iPhone 14: 16.5 million
4. Apple iPhone 13: 15.5 million
5. Samsung Galaxy A14: 12.4 million
6. Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra: 9.6 million
7. Samsung Galaxy A14 5G: 9 million
8. Samsung Galaxy A54 5G:8.8 million
9. Samsung Galaxy A34 5G: 7.1 million
10. Apple iPhone 11: 6.9 million

If Apple adds a new sensor or whatever to both Pro and Pro Max, they need almost 50 million in half a year. Let that sink in.

I suspect this is the real reason the periscope only made it into the Max this year and not the space requirements. It will magically be added to the Pro next year, when production has been scaled enough.

Again great points, I haven't seen those shipping figures before, it really is phenomenal what is being achieved. And re the price drops in some countries, yes it would have been nice to include that point; perhaps the author was trying to placate the audience with good value rather than being fixated on price alone.

 

[sack_peak]

He writes

"During its big iPhone 15 reveal event last week, Apple made a point of saying that its iPhones had grown in value and capability over the last year, but hadn’t raised at all in price. But that’s really only true in the US.

In Australia and in many other markets, the iPhone 15 is more expensive than the iPhone 14 was, presumably because of currency fluctuations."

But forgets to mention that in "many other markets" the price was actually lowered, because of the same fluctuations.
It really isn't just a one way street.



And people seem to think that these new components are just available in endless supply. They are not. They often take a while to scale and Apple needs them in millions. No one sells more of the same models than Apple.

For reference:
The top 10 phones in the first half of 2023 are:

1. Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max: 26.5 million
2. Apple iPhone Pro: 21 million
3. Apple iPhone 14: 16.5 million
4. Apple iPhone 13: 15.5 million
5. Samsung Galaxy A14: 12.4 million
6. Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra: 9.6 million
7. Samsung Galaxy A14 5G: 9 million
8. Samsung Galaxy A54 5G:8.8 million
9. Samsung Galaxy A34 5G: 7.1 million
10. Apple iPhone 11: 6.9 million

If Apple adds a new sensor or whatever to both Pro and Pro Max, they need almost 50 million in half a year. Let that sink in.

I suspect this is the real reason the periscope only made it into the Max this year and not the space requirements. It will magically be added to the Pro next year, when production has been scaled enough.

That economies of scale also allows Apple to provide Bug Fixes & Security Updates up to 112 months after the 2013 iPhone 5s got released.

All Android phones of the 1st decade of the platform had less than half that software support.

Almost all Android phones released in the last decade of the platform have about half that software support.

2015 iPhone 6s & 6s Plus are still receiving bug fixes 95 months & onward. It has the potential to still receive up to 100-112 total support.

2023 iPhone 15 Pro & Pro Max are likely to receive its last Bug Fixes & Security Update by as early as January 2032 or as late as January 2033

By comparison since 2007 each Windows version has had 122 months of support.

Since as early as 2007 macOS has had nearly a decade of support before the final Security Update.

If you have the money to replace but have unchanging use cases I'd keep the Mac for no more than a decade.

The iPhone, iPad, Watch and Airpords about half that.