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tvotony

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Oct 16, 2013
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Is there a tweak that allows for you to be on a phone call and be able to use your internet service.(like the AT&T iPhones can)
 
Is there a tweak that allows for you to be on a phone call and be able to use your internet service.(like the AT&T iPhones can)

It's a hardware limitation, not software. It needs an extra radio that Apple doesn't put in due to their obsession with keeping their phones as thin and light as possible.
 
It's a hardware limitation, not software. It needs an extra radio that Apple doesn't put in due to their obsession with keeping their phones as thin and light as possible.


But doesn't AT&T still offer this on their iPhones
 
But doesn't AT&T still offer this on their iPhones

AT&T's iPhone's are GSM based and because of that, they are able to. Verizon and Sprint's CDMA based iPhones do not have this ability because it is a lack of the correct hardware.
 
AT&T's iPhone's are GSM based and because of that, they are able to. Verizon and Sprint's CDMA based iPhones do not have this ability because it is a lack of the correct hardware.


That sucks
 
That sucks

Understatement. It *really* sucks. I run into problems with this every day. When I'm out to lunch, or on the road, I basically have to keep my phone calls brief in case an important email or iMessage comes in and gets held up by the phone call. I can basically guarantee that the extra 1/10th of an ounce this radio would add is worth it to every Verizon/Sprint customer who does business in any fashion.
 
Understatement. It *really* sucks. I run into problems with this every day. When I'm out to lunch, or on the road, I basically have to keep my phone calls brief in case an important email or iMessage comes in and gets held up by the phone call. I can basically guarantee that the extra 1/10th of an ounce this radio would add is worth it to every Verizon/Sprint customer who does business in any fashion.

thats a known limitation of CDMA phones in general tho (i think the US is the only one on earth to still use that?) like your phone wouldnt even work in europe
 
thats a known limitation of CDMA phones in general tho (i think the US is the only one on earth to still use that?) like your phone wouldnt even work in europe

Vast portions of Asia use CDMA as well. It's not just a U.S. thing.

I'm on Sprint, and personally it kinda ticked me off a couple years ago when AT&T had commercials touting the ability to do what OP wants... they made it sound like Verizon and Sprint just "wouldn't allow customers to do that" for whatever reason. Misleading at best, but more so a LIE.

It's a CDMA thing and has nothing to do with one company or another specifically. It's a hardware limitation (as the others have said) on the tower/signal side, not like your CDMA iPhone is "missing" some piece of hardware that would make it do call/data at the same time.
 
Vast portions of Asia use CDMA as well. It's not just a U.S. thing.

I'm on Sprint, and personally it kinda ticked me off a couple years ago when AT&T had commercials touting the ability to do what OP wants... they made it sound like Verizon and Sprint just "wouldn't allow customers to do that" for whatever reason. Misleading at best, but more so a LIE.

It's a CDMA thing and has nothing to do with one company or another specifically. It's a hardware limitation (as the others have said) on the tower/signal side, not like your CDMA iPhone is "missing" some piece of hardware that would make it do call/data at the same time.

It's not misleading or a lie at all.
They're advertising that the iPhone on their network has a certain advantage over their CDMA competitors. Maybe you took it a certain way but nowhere did they say that the other carriers do not allow it.
Maybe you're bitter cause the iPhone on your carrier cannot do what AT&T advertises...
 
thats a known limitation of CDMA phones in general tho (i think the US is the only one on earth to still use that?) like your phone wouldnt even work in europe

All other LTE phones on Verizon add the radio which allows simultaneously data and voice. Apple is the only company that doesn't do this as far as I know.
 
Vast portions of Asia use CDMA as well. It's not just a U.S. thing.

I'm on Sprint, and personally it kinda ticked me off a couple years ago when AT&T had commercials touting the ability to do what OP wants... they made it sound like Verizon and Sprint just "wouldn't allow customers to do that" for whatever reason. Misleading at best, but more so a LIE.

It's a CDMA thing and has nothing to do with one company or another specifically. It's a hardware limitation (as the others have said) on the tower/signal side, not like your CDMA iPhone is "missing" some piece of hardware that would make it do call/data at the same time.

Lmao AT&T didn't lie. Someone feels sour. Go search cry me a river while you call me on your verizon phone.

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All other LTE phones on Verizon add the radio which allows simultaneously data and voice. Apple is the only company that doesn't do this as far as I know.

Is an extra Antenna and the iPhone antennas and space do not allow more for now. Is also easier to mass produce.
Supposedly lte is supposed to get updated to handle voice, so why rearrange to fit CDMA old tech that might get booted off next year for full lte voice and data.
 
And this limitation has been widely know for a few years...

So buying a CDMA phone then "just learning" about it now or complaining about it now seems like buyer's remorse.
 
so apple are the bad guys? maybe apple are the good guys forcing verizon and sprint to update their towers so they can do Voice over LTE like they do in Korea.

like the other poster said, it seems dumb to add an old radio and increase costs, rather than forcing carriers spend their milliions adding better voice transmissions with LTE
 
so apple are the bad guys? maybe apple are the good guys forcing verizon and sprint to update their towers so they can do Voice over LTE like they do in Korea.

like the other poster said, it seems dumb to add an old radio and increase costs, rather than forcing carriers spend their milliions adding better voice transmissions with LTE

Its a business decision that Apple made. Maybe it wasn't worth it to them to create a separate probably bigger iphone just for those 2 carriers. For many possible reasons like added cost, size and worst battery life than its other current carrier models.
 
Um..gentlemen.. I am not bitter..

What I was saying was that the AT&T commercials IMPLIED that the CDMA carriers "didn't allow" the "feature".

I have only "needed" to get data while on a call ONE time in the eight years I've been with Sprint. I was at home, so I had wifi anyways. No biggie.

For me personally, it's not something I need. I will say once again, I am not bitter.

It just ticked me off about the commercial for no reason other than I felt AT&T was implying and misleading. There were/are no personal ties to it other than that.

Chill out homies. :)
 
http://youtu.be/kYjBg_r114o
Check the video again and tell me where they imply that the carriers didn't allow it.

"Only AT&T's Network allows you to talk and surf at the same time"

In all of their commercials involving advertising data and talk at the same time, they all feature the iPhone, all around the time that Verizon got the iPhone, and all have that similar statement vaguely implying that it's not a hardware limitation. Of course it's not like they're saying "Verizon won't let you!", because obviously that would backfire horribly, but the implication is there.

Anyways, as soon as Verizon and Sprint roll out VoLTE, future iPhone models can support talk and text on their networks. I *think* the 5S and 5C might already support LTE-A and therefor support VoLTE, I THINK, but even then Verizon has yet to roll it out.
 
"Only AT&T's Network allows you to talk and surf at the same time"

In all of their commercials involving advertising data and talk at the same time, they all feature the iPhone, all around the time that Verizon got the iPhone, and all have that similar statement vaguely implying that it's not a hardware limitation. Of course it's not like they're saying "Verizon won't let you!", because obviously that would backfire horribly, but the implication is there.

Anyways, as soon as Verizon and Sprint roll out VoLTE, future iPhone models can support talk and text on their networks. I *think* the 5S and 5C might already support LTE-A and therefor support VoLTE, I THINK, but even then Verizon has yet to roll it out.

I just got back to the thread. Good work, Detective!

Most people don't pay much attention to commercials, they let it in one ear and out the other. This advertisement is just once example where a vague comment can grow in someone's mind and manifest into: "Boy, the other companies won't let people do this."

Yes, it can be called good advertising. I'll give them that.

I'm not a salesman, and I certainly don't have a salesman mindset. Rather, I have a conscience and for the few times I have or may actually sell an item, I tell the truth about it and don't wiggle around trying to make someone think something that isn't.

Perhaps that's why I'll "never get ahead" for lack of a better phrase, but I'll know I wasn't trying to sugar coat something or "talk up" my item using vague and too far reaching descriptions.

Mods- Please note that if someone flags yet another post of mine as abusive/trolling- I say all of this with no intent to flame or cause a big stir. I'm trying to be a good boy around here and people just don't like when someone has an opinion that doesn't fit in with either of the "two choices" that are always presented for any given argument.
 
"Only AT&T's Network allows you to talk and surf at the same time"

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Check the clip again.
"Only AT&T's network lets your iPhone talk and surf at the same time."
Where does it indicate that other carriers can do it but do not allow it?
And how is it misleading or a lie what they claim that the iPhone can do that on their network?
 
Check the clip again.
"Only AT&T's network lets your iPhone talk and surf at the same time."
Where does it indicate that other carriers do not allow it?
And how is it misleading or a lie what they claim that the iPhone can do that on their network?

They've said allows in other commercials before. Even still saying "Only AT&T's Network Allows" gives off a very subtle, almost subliminal message that "You can only do this on AT&T's network".

When it comes to advertising, not everything is given straight up front. It's not designed to be obvious that they are saying other carriers don't allow it, the commercial is designed to showcase that you can do so on AT&T, but with the subtle drop that the others can't.

Also, it's not misleading or a lie that the iPhone can do that on their network. What's misleading is the idea that "Verizon and Sprint don't let you because they don't want to." It's just part of the minor implication. It's just how advertising works. AT&T isn't wrong to say that you can't on Verizon and Sprint. Of course it's more technical than that, but as the other ads show, it's definitely an implication that's hidden.
 
I don't see any AT&T commercial saying what you claim. Those commercials were made specifically for the iPhone customers targeted audience and aired a while ago.
And when those came out it was only AT&T, sprint and verizon having the iPhone. And truly AT&T was the only US carrier that let you do that then. No lie or mislead there.
Now there is also tmobile that has the iPhone and they also can do talk and surf like AT&T. So they're not the only carrier now and that's why we haven't seen that type of commercial again. Even though you say they still do it.
 
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