iOS 10 RAW Capabilities for iPhone 7 Only?

[Traverse]

I read on these forums a few weeks ago that iOS introduces RAW APIs and Apple mentioned the ability to access the RAW file during the iphone 7 keynote.

What about other phones? I have an iPhone SE and I hate the blurry compression you see when you zoom in. Will I be able to access and export/edit the RAW image in iOS 10?

Thanks

 

[LuminousFX]

Just to add on, does that mean we can transfer the DNG to the desktop as well?

 

[iKnowMr.Jobs]

I see it as being implemented in many devices across the board. Think about it, there are a fair number of professional photographers that use an iPad as a tool In their work. Why would Apple limit such a feature for devices where it's the least practical to edit images? My guess, it'll be a feature in devices with at least an A9 processor.

 

[DomC]

I thought RAW was an iOS 10 thing, not just for iPhone 7. We have to now wait for developers to add the feature to their apps since Apple didn't give them the API ahead of time.

DNG would mean some app would convert the Apple camera RAW format. It would be nice to have DNG, but we'll have to wait and see what the output choices are.

I hope apps like Snapseed allow for a choice of output. Right now it will edit TIFF files, but the output is JPG even though the extension says .tiff. Their latest update touts RAW capability with different cameras, but says nothing about iPhone.

 

[gwhizkids]

I thought RAW was an iOS 10 thing, not just for iPhone 7. We have to now wait for developers to add the feature to their apps since Apple didn't give them the API ahead of time.

DNG would mean some app would convert the Apple camera RAW format. It would be nice to have DNG, but we'll have to wait and see what the output choices are.

I hope apps like Snapseed allow for a choice of output. Right now it will edit TIFF files, but the output is JPG even though the extension says .tiff. Their latest update touts RAW capability with different cameras, but says nothing about iPhone.

Developers have the API, I'm pretty certain, it's just that they can't release apps using that API until Christmas, er, Tuesday. Then, we'll get all the fun stuff that was awaiting the iOS release.

 

[Traverse]

Developers have the API, I'm pretty certain, it's just that they can't release apps using that API until Christmas, er, Tuesday. Then, we'll get all the fun stuff that was awaiting the iOS release.

I just want the ability to transfer the raw image to my Mac and not a 1.7MB JPEG. I don't edit my images on my phone or iPad.

 

[Mighuel]

RAW capture will work on iPhone 6s and later, iPad Pro 9,7'' and iPhone SE.

 

[ashindnile]

RAW capture will work on iPhone 6s and later, iPad Pro 9,7'' and iPhone SE.

But editing will work across the current lineup

 

[gwhizkids]

RAW capture will work on iPhone 6s and later, iPad Pro 9,7'' and iPhone SE.

Capture, yes, but editing as well, and in more than just those devices.

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/505/

 

[Traverse]

RAW capture will work on iPhone 6s and later, iPad Pro 9,7'' and iPhone SE.

Can you link to the source?

 

[DomC]

Developers have the API, I'm pretty certain, it's just that they can't release apps using that API until Christmas, er, Tuesday. Then, we'll get all the fun stuff that was awaiting the iOS release.

Interesting that I've been using a beta for ProCamera and there has been no mention of trying out RAW. Why would they have it, but not test it?

In fact early in the iOS beta cycle they told me they were still waiting for information:
"....Unfortunately, Apple has not allowed third-party developers to access controls of underlying image processing (yet)". But maybe that changed later on?

 

[Aditya_S]

How would I be able to capture RAW images from my iPhone 6s? Do I need to download an app, or would it be able to work directly from the Camera app.

 

[gwhizkids]

How would I be able to capture RAW images from my iPhone 6s? Do I need to download an app, or would it be able to work directly from the Camera app.

It doesn't sound like the native camera app will get it, but you can bet Camera+ and others will, as soon as they can.

 

[Aditya_S]

It doesn't sound like the native camera app will get it, but you can bet Camera+ and others will, as soon as they can.

What are the advantages anyway to RAW?

 

[sparksd]

What are the advantages anyway to RAW?

You can get better images because you aren't losing information in the JPEG compression.. One example is a better capability to draw more/better details out of shadows. Some pluses and minuses:

http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/tips-techniques/photo-editing-tips/raw-vs-jpg/

 

[jonblatho]

What are the advantages anyway to RAW?

I'll attempt to explain; real photographers help me out if need be: When shooting a photo in the Camera app, the photo is tweaked/compressed using automatic settings and compressed further when saved as a JPEG to save space, and this is good enough for most cat pictures and selfies.

But RAW is exactly what the camera "sees" when the photo was taken, untweaked except for any camera settings used when the image was captured. This allows the photographer to do all the editing themselves rather than have some editing irreversibly "handled" by the processor…so while they're not light on disk space at all, for professional users, RAW is pretty much irreplaceable.

 

[Traverse]

I'll attempt to explain; real photographers help me out if need be: When shooting a photo in the Camera app, the photo is tweaked/compressed using automatic settings and compressed further when saved as a JPEG to save space, and this is good enough for most cat pictures and selfies.

But RAW is exactly what the camera "sees" when the photo was taken, untweaked except for any camera settings used when the image was captured. This allows the photographer to do all the editing themselves rather than have some editing irreversibly "handled" by the processor…so while they're not light on disk space at all, for professional users, RAW is pretty much irreplaceable.

To add to this: The iPhone compression help keep image sizes small and for most users who just post to Facebook and Instagram, it works well. However, some people want the true image for editing purposes. I want the RAW file to avoid the overly aggressive noise reduction I get in the compressed JPG files I get now.

 

[xcrunner]

You can get better images because you aren't losing information in the JPEG compression.. One example is a better capability to draw more/better details out of shadows. Some pluses and minuses:

http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/tips-techniques/photo-editing-tips/raw-vs-jpg/

And you can change the white balance with no image quality penalty.

 

[sparksd]

And you can change the white balance with no image quality penalty.

Yeah, the benefits are significant and I always shoot RAW an process in Lightroom.

 

[gwhizkids]

Yeah, the benefits are significant and I always shoot RAW an process in Lightroom.

And that's going to be a very nice thing here: Lightroom Mobile should now be able to work directly with Raw images imported onto an iPad, for example. That's a great workflow enabler for photographers in the middle of a shoot, where they can't use their dedicated PCs/Macs. Up to now LR Mobile has been slightly crippled in the types of edits/modifications you can make. This should enable almost a full mobile version of the software, working on real images, not ghosted cloud-based replicas of what you have on your main machine.