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bashman2020

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if you’re on 10.3.3 currently i’d advice you don’t update your device as ios 11 is filled with bugs and lags .
REASONS
1. apps aren’t running as expected like they were before the update
2. app launch time is slower
3. battery life is bad
4. slowness across the whole os
5. you can’t downgrade back to ios 10.3.3 if you update your device to 11

So if you plan on holding onto an older iPhone for a while, you probably shouldn’t update. Just keep ignoring those prompts from Apple if you don’t want your phone’s performance to take a hit.

with ios 11 everything is slower not faster !
Bugs and lags are peculiar to iphone 5s, iphone 6, iphone 6s , iphone SE and iphone 7 users
 
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I agree.
I have an iPhone 6s running iOS 10.3.3 and my sister updated her 6s to iOS 11.1.
I compared the two phones side by side and honestly I think iOS 11 is still really bad performance wise and it is full of bugs. Battery life is awful, too.
It's as if iOS 11 is still in beta.
I won't update my phone until iOS 11 becomes really ready, I don't want to beta test Apple's software on my daily driver.
Android in comparison is way, way smoother and more stable, even after a major update on a flagship phone. Android OEMs do take their time to release updates but do release a ready software in the end, so I'm a little jealous.
I really hope that Apple optimizes their software as they used to before 2013.
It is UNACCEPTABLE to have so much bugs, lag and stutter on our iPhones that do really have very good hardware.
I mean how can my iPhone 6s run Modern Combat 5 at 60fps but still stutter in basic tasks like scrolling in the notifications center ..?!
The only explanation I can think of is bad optimization.
If you tell me iOS 11.3 will be smooth and stable, then that's what iOS 11.0 should have been in the first place, why release software that's not ready yet?!
 
if you’re on 10.3.3 currently i’d advice you don’t update your device as ios 11 is filled with bugs and lags

Oddly the only issue my 7plus has had since upgrading to 11 is the annoyingly buggy appstore has a different set of annoying bugs.

Apart from that everything else feels just fine and my battery life hasn't noticably changed.

It does bug me when people post personal observations and demand they be taken as representative accross all users.
 
How about you don’t tell ppl how to use their phones and let them decide? Oh, the letter “I” issue is so tragic...turn off predictive and type a whole message yourself. My calculator does not have any issues, other than the initial 1+2+3 bug that has been fixed.

If all you people have such issues, switch to Android, see what a nightmare that can be, then come back and praise iOS. :)

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Also, I'm not telling people what to do. I'm informing them of the FACT that if they upgrade, THEY CANNOT GO BACK, and there seems to be 50/50 chance that they'll run into issues.

What they do with that info is, of course, up to them. But know this: I'm not obligated to defend Apple or Google with any of their devices or software.
 
Eh... no. I agree with OP that "don't install iOS 11" should be a thing and it's not jerky because:

1. This is a real and universal issue, if you haven't seen it, then you obviously have not used your phone much at all: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/6/16611756/ios-11-bug-letter-i-a-unicode-symbol

2. The calculator app is another real and universal issue.

3. iOS should work without you having to clear RAM or do little things to it. This is stated as much in Apple's design guidelines for their developers.

4. Interface elements are disjointed and little bugs here and there still creep in. Though nothing major and functionally compromising like #1 and #2 above. I have personally experienced my device freezing up (with screen on, button presses don't work) multiple times the last week alone.

5. Just because you have not run into issues doesn't mean there is no potential for anyone else to experience them. Also, THERE IS NO WAY TO GO BACK AFTER YOU UPDATE. So yeah, I would actually strongly advise anyone who is not having any issue to stay on 10.3.3 simply because there seems to be a 50/50 chance you'll run into issues.

If it's not broke, why fix it?
 
I have a 6 and my wife a 6s, iOS 11 is a disaster. Performance seems a bit better with 11.1, but still lots of lag at times. Battery life still way down. Have a few friends that report the same issues with iOS 11.

Was expecting things to be more stable by 11.1, but I guess with Apple we will have to wait till x.2 now. Had the same issues with OSX lately as well and refuse to upgrade to High Sierra.

I understand software releases can have issues, but PLEASE do not push upgrades to users till it is ready!!!!! Apple should never have the upgrade option send to users till iOS was stable and ready. There are a host of people complaining about iOS 11. Frankly it is an embarrassment to Apple.

This is the kind of issues I saw with early Android phones way back in 2009-2011 and why I have recommended people move to iOS at the time. Apple really needs to get their act together as the iOS upgrade experience is one the biggest reasons why I have been recommending iPhones to friends, etc. If they don't fix iOS 11 and make very sure the next release is handled better they will see a lot of people move to other choices. iOS is the reason people buy iPhones given the dozens of good hardware choices on Android.
 
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I agree.
I have an iPhone 6s running iOS 10.3.3 and my sister updated her 6s to iOS 11.1.
I compared the two phones side by side and honestly I think iOS 11 is still really bad performance wise and it is full of bugs. Battery life is awful, too.
It's as if iOS 11 is still in beta.
I won't update my phone until iOS 11 becomes really ready, I don't want to beta test Apple's software on my daily driver.
Android in comparison is way, way smoother and more stable, even after a major update on a flagship phone. Android OEMs do take their time to release updates but do release a ready software in the end, so I'm a little jealous.
I really hope that Apple optimizes their software as they used to before 2013.
It is UNACCEPTABLE to have so much bugs, lag and stutter on our iPhones that do really have very good hardware.
I mean how can my iPhone 6s run Modern Combat 5 at 60fps but still stutter in basic tasks like scrolling in the notifications center ..?!
The only explanation I can think of is bad optimization.
If you tell me iOS 11.3 will be smooth and stable, then that's what iOS 11.0 should have been in the first place, why release software that's not ready yet?!

2013 is correct, that is when the cracks began to show. When they redesigned it and messed everything up with iOS 7 (in my opinion), they also messed with the architecture behind it that originally ran at true 60fps which was last present in iOS 6. I have an iPhone 5 running iOS 6.1.4 and it is consistently smooth in every corner of the OS. None of this “this update is so smooth!” that you see on here these days when in reality it actually lags in third party apps and even the App Store itself... heck, even control centre isn’t consistently smooth. People have forgotten what a true smooth iOS experience is like because we’ve been accustomed to the jitters and framedrops since 2013 as you said.

Also, agreed about Android being smoother nowadays. I have a Pixel 2 and it runs way smoother than iOS currently does.
 
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well i guess you haven’t really been using & taking notes of your ios device that much to experience the lags across the whole os

To tell someone that haven’t been taking notes or using they’re phone properly to be a “judge” of iOS is kind of unfair and jerky.

I’m using it iOS 11 on both an iPhone 6 and an iPhone 8 Plus and have not had one big issue. Then again, I do little things like clear my RAM etc to keep things smooth.

Maybe you should just monitor your own usage and decide if you want to use iOS 11 yourself. But keep the “don’t install iOS 11” to yourself and let people decide themselves.
 
I’m old enough to remember when some folks were calling iOS 10 crap and now it’s the gold standard.

Next year iOS 11 will be the bees knees and 12 will be the planned obsolescence monster. ;)

iOS 10 is the gold standard? News to me. I see lots of iOS 9 hold-outs who are still trying to avoid it. If there was a gold standard, it was iOS 6 :)

That said, iOS 11.1 is good enough for me, and at a point where I'd say go ahead and upgrade as long as you are on a 6S/SE or newer. In 11.1 they brought back 3D touch multi-tasker, and it seems like they tweaked the lockscreen camera swipe shortcut so that it works more reliably. So I'm happy enough and wouldn't want to go back to iOS 10 at this point.
 
My 6s runs faster and smoother on IOS 11 than it ever has. Battery life if just as good at least. So when you write things such as the OP did (and it like another 5000 threads) you should say it does all that for you. It doesn't for everyone and I'd guess more people are happy than not. Your bad performance could be because of 1 app you are running and not the entire IOS. Sure there are some bugs but find me an IOS that doesn't have any. The same threads occurred for IOS 10 and 9 etc. when they came out.
As far as I'm concerned IOS 11 is the best IOS that I have seen.
 
I learned my lesson years ago. Currently running an "old" IP6+ on "outdated" iOS 9.3.5 and everything works perfectly. I wish the phone had another 1 GB of ram, but other than that, I can confidently say that this old phone with its old OS runs "nicer" than the new ones.

Sorry state of affairs at Apple these days.
 
I'd love to give some of these haters an old phone with an old IOS and I bet they'd hate it as much as they hate this.
Love to compare threads from a year ago and I'll bet the say the same thing from some of the same people.
I guess their only joy in life is negativity.
 
Move to android

Isn’t an argument for poor quality software

Especially for people who were happy until a certain update



“Don’t like the fancy steak at a steak house? Go to McDonald’s they’ll cook your meat through”

Or you could just cook the steak properly and I could stay where I am? And get what I thought I asked for?
 
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And in the early days of iOS 10 people were raving how the last version of iOS 9 was the greatest since iOS 10 was buggy and had different issues for different people in those days.

Generally by the seventh release of iOS 10 (which was iOS 10.2.1) the OS was largely ironed out and well polished, there weren't many complaints, certainly people weren't still asking to downgrade to iOS 9! That can't be said for the seventh release of iOS 11 (11.1.2) which is still running horribly for most. People are STILL trying to downgrade to iOS 10 SEVEN versions in!!! It's unheard of.
 
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The folks to who are update ludites should move on to another platform, lol. I hear android phones typically don’t get updates, I would start there! Personally I have never had an update issue and no one I know has either. I think this forum concentrates the crazies.
 
well i guess you haven’t really been using & taking notes of your ios device that much to experience the lags across the whole os
I've got a 6S and i cant really notice any difference at all and i'm using it no different to how i have done since i got it. That said i just use it, i dont sit and take copious notes as to how its working all the time including date and time notations of battery percentage or whether an app took a split second longer to open last Wednesday at 3:14pm.

There are plenty of posts and threads from folk who are having no issues with iOS11 not just myself, are they all using it wrong or not paying attention as well?
 
How about you don’t tell ppl how to use their phones and let them decide? Oh, the letter “I” issue is so tragic...turn off predictive and type a whole message yourself. My calculator does not have any issues, other than the initial 1+2+3 bug that has been fixed.

If all you people have such issues, switch to Android, see what a nightmare that can be, then come back and praise iOS. :)
 
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