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Who’s gonna do it for stock apps though? The Photos app would be a good start. The hidden photos tab isn’t exactly a big secret lol.

The only one that really needs it is Notes, which has password protection now. The hidden folder on photos is the only other one.

The rest of the stock apps don’t need it.
 
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Seems like it can be fairly fundamental OS level functionality that can exist as an option.
 
Did you mean to say, “The rest of the stock apps I don’t need it”

There’s no real need for it on other stock apps. You’re really saying that compass, or News needs an app lock? I guarantee you there won’t be a system level app lock from Apple. I agree that photos should have it for the hidden folder. I have fed back to Apple about that repeatedly, as there’s a genuine need for that.

Third party apps can be done by the app developers, as has been seen already, so any 3rd party ones, contact those developers.
 
Third party apps can be done by the app developers, as has been seen already, so any 3rd party ones, contact those developers.
But they would basically be plugging into functionality that the OS itself includes (using Touch ID/Face ID), so given that it's essentially already there then why not have it available on system level basically where it could be applied to apps as desired by the user (similar to how various other things like location access can be controlled per app on system level, for example)?
 
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There’s no real need for it on other stock apps. You’re really saying that compass, or News needs an app lock? I guarantee you there won’t be a system level app lock from Apple. I agree that photos should have it for the hidden folder. I have fed back to Apple about that repeatedly, as there’s a genuine need for that.

Third party apps can be done by the app developers, as has been seen already, so any 3rd party ones, contact those developers.
I agree. I don’t see Apple doing a system level app locker either. Well, actually there is one. It’s called the lock screen lol.

I do see a need for other stock apps though. Health, Files, iMessage, Contacts. Anything that stores sensitive information. Of course not Compass or News... My opinion though.
 
But they would basically be plugging into functionality that the OS itself includes (using Touch ID/Face ID), so given that it's essentially already there then why not have it available on system level basically where it could be applied to apps as desired by the user (similar to how various other things like location access can be controlled per app on a system level, for example)?

It’s not as easy as that, as placing a system level app lock, could interfere with the behaviours of those apps, like notifications, etc. Plus you will then messup the apps that have an app based app lock (of which there are very many of them).

Banking apps, for example, mandatorily have an app lock already, if you change to a system based one, which can be disabled, then it might put them at risk, and banks won’t trust users to not disable it on those ones. That could then lead to double app locks, which could get messier.

What about games, if you have a system wide one, is it defaulting to Yes? Does it ask on first open of every app?


Apple provided 3rd party developers with the ability to Lock their own apps (or offer the ability to) via FaceID/TouchID for a reason, so they don’t have to cause more issues than they need to. It’s down to consumer feedback to those app developers that don’t provide the option for this, where appropriate.
 
It’s not as easy as that, as placing a system level app lock, could interfere with the behaviours of those apps, like notifications, etc. Plus you will then messup the apps that have an app based app lock (of which there are very many of them).

Banking apps, for example, mandatorily have an app lock already, if you change to a system based one, which can be disabled, then it might put them at risk, and banks won’t trust users to not disable it on those ones. That could then lead to double app locks, which could get messier.

What about games, if you have a system wide one, is it defaulting to Yes? Does it ask on first open of every app?


Apple provided 3rd party developers with the ability to Lock their own apps (or offer the ability to) via FaceID/TouchID for a reason, so they don’t have to cause more issues than they need to. It’s down to consumer feedback to those app developers that don’t provide the option for this, where appropriate.
It can be set to be enabled or disabled on a per app basis, like a variety of other existing privacy controls in iOS settings. Notifications don't need to be affected in any fashion or could be set up so that preview data isn't displayed (which is something that's available for various motivations today's).

The idea can be that it would be something that comes up just before the app actually launches (for an app where that is enabled) so that if an app has its own lock system that can still be in play as the app would launch as it normally does after that.
 
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It can be set to be enabled or disabled on a per app basis, like a variety of other existing privacy controls in iOS settings. Notifications don't need to be affected in any fashion or could be set up so that preview data isn't displayed (which is something that's available for various motivations today's).

The idea can be that it would be something that comes up just before the app actually launches (for an app where that is enabled) so that if an app has its own lock system that can still be in play as the app would launch as it normally does after that.

You’re missing most of my points.

I’m saying that instituting a universal App Lock would likely impact the notifications functionality (Not the behaviour which I’d what you are talking about, but the mechanism on how that behaviour works).

Why should Apple waste time on this, when they already provided all the tools for App Developers to do it themselves, and App developers have taken advantage of it? It’s a lot of work, for little benefit for most users.
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The „hidden“ folder on the photos app needs it. Calling a folder HIDDEN? Really? You might as well call it „DO NOT OPEN. DO NOT OPEN IT AT ALL. NOTHING TO SEE HERE AT ALL!“

Yea deffo.
 
You’re missing most of my points.

I’m saying that instituting a universal App Lock would likely impact the notifications functionality (Not the behaviour which I’d what you are talking about, but the mechanism on how that behaviour works).

Why should Apple waste time on this, when they already provided all the tools for App Developers to do it themselves, and App developers have taken advantage of it? It’s a lot of work, for little benefit for most users.
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Yea deffo.
I'm not sure I'm missing the points as I've been commenting on them. I've already mentioned that none of the notification functionality need to be affected by something like that.

As for whether or not Apple would spend time on something like this, that's a somewhat different question and one that doesn't really impact whether or not it would be something useful. Many have said Apple wouldn't waste time on making widgets available on the home screen, especially since they already built widget functionality easily accessible from Notification Center or the lock screen or main home screen, but here we are in iOS 14 and home screen widgets are now something that Apple has gone with after all.
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The „hidden“ folder on the photos app needs it. Calling a folder HIDDEN? Really? You might as well call it „DO NOT OPEN. DO NOT OPEN IT AT ALL. NOTHING TO SEE HERE AT ALL!“
It's not hidden in the sense of not having access to it, but in the sense that all photos that are labeled as hidden would be there -- and they are labeled as hidden so that they wouldn't come up when browsing through all photos normally from the main album. That's how Apple uses that "hidden" label for photos.
 
I'm not sure I'm missing the points as I've been commenting on them. I've already mentioned that none of the notification functionality need to be affected by something like that.

As for whether or not Apple would spend time on something like this, that's a somewhat different question and one that doesn't really impact whether or not it would be something useful. Many have said Apple wouldn't waste time on making widgets available on the home screen, especially since they already built widget functionality easily accessible from Notification Center or the lock screen or main home screen, but here we are in iOS 14 and home screen widgets are now something that Apple has gone with after all.

Well, when Apple have already provide developers with a means to do App Locking, including granting them access to FaceID/TouchID to do so, you're not going to ever see them doing it themselves.
 
Well, when Apple have already provide developers with a means to do App Locking, including granting them access to FaceID/TouchID to do so, you're not going to ever see them doing it themselves.
You never really know.
 
You can when you apply logic and common sense. There’s more chance of Apple letting you install Android on an iPhone than this.
Various things were described like that by some (like widgets, for example) which then at one point Apple ended up providing.
 
Various things were described like that by some (like widgets, for example) which then at one point Apple ended up providing.

Widgets is not the same as this. Widget never existed at all, whereas App Lock already does exist, it's just down to the Developers to implement on their own Apps, rather than Apple doing it.
 
Hidden photos, notes with videos and pdfs, or files on the file app... it's surprising that it can't be locked
 
Hidden photos is really the only one that needs it. Notes already has it if you enable it on specific notes. The only other one that I could think of would be Mail. It could definitely be useful on Mail.

The feedback app for some reason even has it. Which btw I just submitted a request for hidden photos to be lockable. We should all do that honestly.
 
I have been searching for a way to lock Mac email and messages. The only way to do this is to jailbreak or use screen time.

Screen time, while useful for parents to lock a Child's phone, is the most ridiculous way to lock an app like messages or mail. Screen time lock allows for time that would allow for a few minute, an hour or all day. So, if I set it for all day and someone gets my phone then they have access until the time runs out. It is just a stupid way to lock an app.

The other option is to jailbreak my phone, which I guess I could do, but doesn't sound like something that I would like to do.

I'm seriously thinking of changing to android because they allow app lock.
 
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