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iOS 17.7.2 released today (19 Nov 2024, https://support.apple.com/121754) is most likely the last iOS 17 update.

On my iPhone SE 2, the iOS 18 update appeared first and iOS 17.7.2 was in the other category. After updating to iOS 17.7.2, it displays a persistent notification in settings for iOS 18.1.1.

This is similar to what happened for iOS 15 & 16
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-ios-15-no-longer-supported-on-iphone-se-2.2370718/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-ios-16-still-supported.2412501/
 
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Yup after the .1 update is when Apple starts showing the next version as an update. It’s nice because before once the .0 update was available there was no other option for updates.
 
I’m sure iPhone 8/8 Plus/X as well as the 2017 iPad Pro and iPad 6 will continue to get updates since iOS 17 is the end of the road—most likely another year or two of patches. iOS 15 has been patched for 3 years after its release.
 
I’m sure iPhone 8/8 Plus/X as well as the 2017 iPad Pro and iPad 6 will continue to get updates since iOS 17 is the end of the road—most likely another year or two of patches. iOS 15 has been patched for 3 years after its release.
According to Apple, iOS 17 is not compatible with iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X, but they might get security fixes for iOS 16.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iph...atible-with-ios-17-iphe3fa5df43/17.0/ios/17.0
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/supported-models-iphe3fa5df43/16.0/ios/16.0
 
Don't they continue to push security updates for another couple of years? I thought it was like MacOS, where an OS would be supported for approximately three years total.
 
Don't they continue to push security updates for another couple of years? I thought it was like MacOS, where an OS would be supported for approximately three years total.
Only for devices that can't run the later OS.
 
Which sucks. There is literally nothing on the iOS 18 feature list that I care about.
There’s nothing on the iOS 18 or iOS 17 feature list that I care about, but Apple isn’t going to keep supporting older versions on iOS. I believe they support two prior major versions on macOS, but I can see that being a PITA for iOS. They would need developer teams working on each version to implement security patches. It’s just not needed for the iPhone. I really appreciate that they support the older version till the .1 update on the new version comes out that way most of the bugs are ironed out.
 
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I have the option to buy a used iPhone SE 3 (in good shape) where an old iOS 17.4.1 is installed. For now I need to stay on iOS 17 so my question is:

Is it still possible to update that iPhone SE to the latest iOS 17.7.2 version?
 
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It is actually quite simple. I found someone who had an iPhone with iOS 17.5.1 and asked them to check for the update.
And voilà, there was my desired update. So it surely will be the same for iOS 17.4.1 (as it cannot be a delta update only).

As mentioned in another post in that thread, Apple makes it harder to find the iOS 17 Security Update.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-1-and-my-day-is-ruined.2443507/post-33585157
 
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It appears that, again, Apple deliberately left a serious TCC bypass vulnerability unpatched in iOS 17 since September.

“Unauthorized access to iCloud: analyzing an iOS vulnerability that could expose sensitive data to attackers” https://www.jamf.com/blog/tcc-bypass-steals-data-from-icloud/

“iOS 18 Alert—iPhone Users Waiting To Update At Risk From New Attack”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateof...aiting-to-update-are-at-risk-from-new-attack/

CVE-2024-44131 on Apple’s support website
https://www.google.com/search?q="CVE-2024-44131" site:support.apple.com/en-us&hl=en-US&gl=US
 
Apple is no longer supporting IOS 17? I'm still running IOS 17.7.2 on my iPhone 13.

You already missed four updates. 17.7.6 would be the recent version and is only available as iPadOS for the iPad 6 and the first gen. 10.5" iPad Pro and the second gen. 12.9" iPad Pro.

There is no iPhone that does support iOS 17 but not 18, so you are forced to upgrade to iOS 18.x if you want bug and security fixes. Some apps need those. Banking for example often release a new versions, that normally won't support 17.7.2 then anymore.

Wouldn't that be strange to handle by the way? My SE1 with iOS 15 just got in the situation that the first banking apps stopped working and others give warnings that it will stop soon too. How does a developer solve this? Can you just say it supports 15.x, 16.x and 18.x but not 17.x?


I missed that. Maybe my apps will work again after updating. Is the extended support now three years or is that one of those rare very important fix updates?


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You already missed four updates. 17.7.6 would be the recent version and is only available as iPadOS for the iPad 6 and the first gen. 10.5" iPad Pro and the second gen. 12.9" iPad Pro.

There is no iPhone that does support iOS 17 but not 18, so you are forced to upgrade to iOS 18.x if you want bug and security fixes. Some apps need those. Banking for example often release a new versions, that normally won't support 17.7.2 then anymore.

Wouldn't that be strange to handle by the way? My SE1 with iOS 15 just got in the situation that the first banking apps stopped working and others give warnings that it will stop soon too. How does a developer solve this? Can you just say it supports 15.x, 16.x and 18.x but not 17.x?


I missed that. Maybe my apps will work again after updating. Is the extended support now three years or is that one of those rare very important fix updates?


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This update didn't help by the way. All the banking and credit card apps need at least iOS 16 now or warning that soon with the next update it will be the case or the new update is already out and this older version will get shut down.
At least they waited until March/April. But some still work and also worked before with or without warning. I wonder if other financial apps like PayPal still work. Have to try it the next time I get the SE1 into my hands again.

Does Apple Pay still work in the latest iOS 15? I only use it to put money on my Revolut account.

Sadly I had to remove the SE1 from my main Apple-ID.

I couldn't even use it for App Store updates anymore after turning on the Advanced Data Protection for iCloud and removed it fromthere. I just hope this won't happen to devices what seems to have existed when it was introduced. Must have been iOS 16 then.

I always though App Store and iCloud account where handled not as the same ID but in this case it does. At least you have to install every app new with another ID to get updates again.
 
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