Apple TV iOS 6 will make it easier to jailbreak ATV3?

[irfan22]

just wondering since iOS6 will be available for ATV3 and new features have been included like moving apps around. Will this make it easier for someone to jailbreak it?

From what i heard previously, the ios is bare bones on the ATV3 and it makes it harder to find an exploit.

 

[Blue Sun]

I'm hoping this is the case (although I really don't know much about jail breaking).

Is there anyone that can weigh in on this?

I know they are struggling to find anything to exploit in the new ATV that will allow them to apply the jailbreak. There really hasn't been much talk lately. Should we give up and start selling our ATV's, or is there still hope yet?

Another question, how many people are actually working on this (if any)?

 

[alexreich]

A new version of iOS will not make it easier to jailbreak, that's foolish! Each time iOS is updated there are file system modifications and exploits get fixed. A new version of iOS complicates things for devs.

As a current owner of a jailbroken AppleTV2, my advice to you is to keep your ATV3 unplugged (so it doesn't auto-update, it happened to me!), and wait for an ATV3 jailbreak to release. These things take time, and there is no way to know when or how long a jailbreak will take to release.

Jailbreak developers are going to be working with the first iOS version on the ATV3, not all of the updates that are coming along afterwards. So in order to have your jailbreak soonest, NEVER update the thing until you know that if you update, you can jailbreak the firmware you're updating to.

My ATV2 is sitting on an untethered iOS 4.1 or something with updates disabled because I originally did not want it to auto-update, but now I just don't feel like fooling with updates and stuff as my jailbroken ATV2 does everything I need, and there are no new features that I need in the newer releases. Plus once you update, your jailbreak is wiped, and you have to re-jailbreak it, and re configure the device.

Just wait for a JB, and once you get it, don't fool with updates. There's hardly ever anything worth updating for.

I'm actually trading my ATV2 for a 160GB ATV1 this week because I don't want to deal with this jailbreak/update crap. The ATV1 is just as good as an ATV2 (does everything it can at 720p, AirPlay can be enabled, with hardware modification it can process 1080p video), and with upgradable hardware and mods, it's more useful to me than the newer ATV2, even at jailbroken state. I've read a lot on it, and I feel that the ATV1 is better for me.

 

[Blue Sun]

A new version of iOS will not make it easier to jailbreak, that's foolish! Each time iOS is updated there are file system modifications and exploits get fixed. A new version of iOS complicates things for devs.

As a current owner of a jailbroken AppleTV2, my advice to you is to keep your ATV3 unplugged (so it doesn't auto-update, it happened to me!), and wait for an ATV3 jailbreak to release. These things take time, and there is no way to know when or how long a jailbreak will take to release.

Jailbreak developers are going to be working with the first iOS version on the ATV3, not all of the updates that are coming along afterwards. So in order to have your jailbreak soonest, NEVER update the thing until you know that if you update, you can jailbreak the firmware you're updating to.

My ATV2 is sitting on an untethered iOS 4.1 or something with updates disabled because I originally did not want it to auto-update, but now I just don't feel like fooling with updates and stuff as my jailbroken ATV2 does everything I need, and there are no new features that I need in the newer releases. Plus once you update, your jailbreak is wiped, and you have to re-jailbreak it, and re configure the device.

Just wait for a JB, and once you get it, don't fool with updates. There's hardly ever anything worth updating for.

I'm actually trading my ATV2 for a 160GB ATV1 this week because I don't want to deal with this jailbreak/update crap. The ATV1 is just as good as an ATV2 (does everything it can at 720p, AirPlay can be enabled, with hardware modification it can process 1080p video), and with upgradable hardware and mods, it's more useful to me than the newer ATV2, even at jailbroken state. I've read a lot on it, and I feel that the ATV1 is better for me.

Before I knew about all of this jailbreaking business I updated my ATV3.

I believe it is running 5.0.2 (4250). Does this mean I have effectively destroyed any chance of having this thing jailbroken?

 

[alexreich]

Before I knew about all of this jailbreaking business I updated my ATV3.

I believe it is running 5.0.2 (4250). Does this mean I have effectively destroyed any chance of having this thing jailbroken?

I understand, and I'm sorry if I came across as a jerk above. I just read it and I seemed a bit of a d!ck by the way I worded things.

Your chance of a jailbreak is still there and will likely be available in the next few months, it just may take the developers longer to get into the iOS version in which you've updated to.

What particular features do you want from a jailbroken AppleTV3? Perhaps I could recommend another product for you that would suit your needs, and you wouldn't have to wait on the devs and the ATV3 issues.

 

[Blue Sun]

I understand, and I'm sorry if I came across as a jerk above. I just read it and I seemed a bit of a d!ck by the way I worded things.

Your chance of a jailbreak is still there and will likely be available in the next few months, it just may take the developers longer to get into the iOS version in which you've updated to.

What particular features do you want from a jailbroken AppleTV3? Perhaps I could recommend another product for you that would suit your needs, and you wouldn't have to wait on the devs and the ATV3 issues.

Thanks, and no, you didn't seem like a jerk (its just that I know very little about the Apple TV scene as I only purchased one yesterday - thinking it could be jailbroken like the previous two generations).

I basically want to be able to stream movies and TV shows to my TV from my NAS device that is connected to my Airport Extreme.

If by any chance you live in Australia, and were willing to part with your ATV2 I would happily purchase it from you.

And BTW, I just read this german blog, and it really doesn't seem like there is much hope.

Cheers.

 

[alexreich]

Thanks, and no, you didn't seem like a jerk (its just that I know very little about the Apple TV scene as I only purchased one yesterday - thinking it could be jailbroken like the previous two generations).

I basically want to be able to stream movies and TV shows to my TV from my NAS device that is connected to my Airport Extreme.

If by any chance you live in Australia, and were willing to part with your ATV2 I would happily purchase it from you.

And BTW, I just read this german blog, and it really doesn't seem like there is much hope.

Cheers.

You could use an ATV1 for the media streaming you've described.

You could sell your ATV3, then head on to eBay with the money you get back and buy an ATV1. Once you get the ATV1, you can hack it via USB, load XBMC, and you can stream from any share in your home. The ATV1 without hardware modification can playback 720p video, and with a mini-PCIE video decoder card can playback 1080p video.

Other than XBMC for local streaming from devices on your network, you can also load other software on the ATV1 such as the Firefox web browser. And in XBMC, you can add online media sources to stream Sports, and Live TV.

Here are the articles and how to's I've gathered on the things I've described above:

XBMC:*http://bit.ly/yEJVxE
Live Sports/TV:*http://bit.ly/LYSJY0
FireFox:*http://bit.ly/dbH6h

 

[Blue Sun]

You could use an ATV1 for the media streaming you've described.

You could sell your ATV3, then head on to eBay with the money you get back and buy an ATV1. Once you get the ATV1, you can hack it via USB, load XBMC, and you can stream from any share in your home. The ATV1 without hardware modification can playback 720p video, and with a mini-PCIE video decoder card can playback 1080p video.

Other than XBMC for local streaming from devices on your network, you can also load other software on the ATV1 such as the Firefox web browser. And in XBMC, you can add online media sources to stream Sports, and Live TV.

Here are the articles and how to's I've gathered on the things I've described above:

XBMC:*http://bit.ly/yEJVxE
Live Sports/TV:*http://bit.ly/LYSJY0
FireFox:*http://bit.ly/dbH6h

Thank you very much for that.

I'll hold on to my ATV3 a little longer in the hopes of a break through, but may end up doing what you described.

Cheers.

 

[alexreich]

Thank you very much for that.

I'll hold on to my ATV3 a little longer in the hopes of a break through, but may end up doing what you described.

Cheers.

No problem buddy. And I would sell you my ATV2 but I'm in the US. Haha

If you end up buying an ATV1 and need help getting it set up like I've described, shoot me a PM. I'll probably get my ATV1 this week or early next week, so I'll be going through the set up process pretty soon and would be able to help you out with it later if need be.

 

[maturola]

just wondering since iOS6 will be available for ATV3 and new features have been included like moving apps around. Will this make it easier for someone to jailbreak it?

From what i heard previously, the ios is bare bones on the ATV3 and it makes it harder to find an exploit.

The issue with the ATV is that the "attack surface" of the OS is smaller compare to the others devices that runs iOS, since then ATV runs a watered down version of iOS, there are less chances of finding bugs and exploits.

iOS6 is not going to change that, however we may get luck, as with any update, as they fix some bugs, they can mess something else up.

 

[Ping Guo]

I basically want to be able to stream movies and TV shows to my TV from my NAS device that is connected to my Airport Extreme.

Another way to accomplish this is install Plex Media Server on your NAS and use a compatible device to stream, and Plex supports many.

http://www.plexapp.com/linux/linux-pms-download.php

You can stream from PS3, Xbox, Samsung Smart TV devices, in some cases with no transcoding and virtually all file types supported natively.

 

[Discreet]

No problem buddy. And I would sell you my ATV2 but I'm in the US. Haha

If you end up buying an ATV1 and need help getting it set up like I've described, shoot me a PM. I'll probably get my ATV1 this week or early next week, so I'll be going through the set up process pretty soon and would be able to help you out with it later if need be.

I've been waiting as well for the ATV3 to be jailbroken. I don't care about 1080p, I just need a second ATV for my new TV in the house. If you are selling your ATV2 I would be happy to take it off your hands. Where are you located in the US?

 

[alexreich]

I've been waiting as well for the ATV3 to be jailbroken. I don't care about 1080p, I just need a second ATV for my new TV in the house. If you are selling your ATV2 I would be happy to take it off your hands. Where are you located in the US?

Unfortunately I sold it to my uncle yesterday, haha. But if you still want an ATV2 bad enough you can pick them off on eBay. They're more expensive than a new ATV3, but they're hackable unlike the ATV3. Pick your poison I suppose. Haha.