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CTHarrryH

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Jul 4, 2012
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Right - has nothing to do with users demanding more and more complex software delivered more quickly. You should have seen some of the Steve Jobs era software on early Apple machines
 

Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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Although I don't know much about this report but yeah. iOS is no longer super stable and reliable. At least when I use iOS 5, I never see even once crash or something.
 

M. Gustave

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Jun 6, 2015
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Grand Budapest Hotel
You do realize that this "article" is just a commercial advertisement for "BTG", right? That's how articles in Fortune, Forbes, and most other magazines work. I know several people in the business.
Here's the buried tidbit:

"BTG came up with its findings by monitoring the company’s SmartChk, a service that runs tests on smartphones and tablets to find problems. That information can then be used to repair the devices. BTG didn’t say exactly how many iOS- and Android-based devices were analyzed in its most recent study..."
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Seems like this might be based on iOS versions that are already updated and don't have the issues anymore. That's on top of not really seeing the actual methodology and devices that were tested and all other details of the "study" (not even sure that it was really a study).
 

M. Gustave

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The alleged analysis software they based this "study" on, has one review in the App Store, for all versions? And this is supposedly monitoring "millions" of devices? LOL

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I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Right - has nothing to do with users demanding more and more complex software delivered more quickly. You should have seen some of the Steve Jobs era software on early Apple machines
Like no cut and paste?
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The alleged analysis software they based this "study" on, has one review in the App Store, for all versions? And this is supposedly monitoring "millions" of devices? LOL

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What was left out was that apple has been fixing security issues lickety split lately. I don't know if my phone crashes or not. I can't tell, it's not like a BSOD.
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Although I don't know much about this report but yeah. iOS is no longer super stable and reliable. At least when I use iOS 5, I never see even once crash or something.
As I said above, it's stable for me, but I can't tell if my phone crashes or not. And I don't care what the "studies" show as long as I am satisfied with the performance of the phone.
 

Radon87000

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Nov 29, 2013
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I have said this before and I will say it again.Android has caught up and surpassed iOS in a lot of areas while Apple rested on its laurels
 

Agent2015

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I have said this before and I will say it again.Android has caught up and surpassed iOS in a lot of areas while Apple rested on its laurels
So Radon why on earth do you stay with iOS? You claimed many moons ago that you were off to the greener pastures of Android! But here you still are...
 

mrex

macrumors 68040
Jul 16, 2014
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Right - has nothing to do with users demanding more and more complex software delivered more quickly. You should have seen some of the Steve Jobs era software on early Apple machines

if ios is complex, what is android then? A spacetime software from the future?
 

mrex

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Jul 16, 2014
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Except for the android posts on lag, battery drain slowness, lack of updates and understanding if the "study" is even viable you are correct.:)

Yeah, i rather take those tiny hiccups - like loosing your music from the phone - than seeing nonsense lag. It is much more funnier to see what happens after an update or when connected to your computer. Sometimes there is simple magic!

My latest magic experience was songs disappered from my iphone (happened after updating to ios934). I was hoping to see them coming back now with ios935, but no magic at this time :(
 

typicaluser

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Sep 15, 2013
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Well, Apple going down is completely in my expectation and I don't blame anyone including Tim Cook. Here is my thought.

Steve as a CEO is easily 100 times more competitive in terms of vision, executive power, product manage and human resource management and so on than any first class CEO in the world. So a not going-down Apple after Steve would be a surprise to me, otherwise what's the value in Steve and how was he different than any other CEO?

If anyone ever expected Steve was replaceable then he or she may have no idea how a great company like Apple come into existence and what it takes to bring about revolutionary products to market.

PS: The news quoted by OP does not necessarily serve as an evidence for my opinion above. All I am saying is Apple would be going down in general after SJ.
 
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Radon87000

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Except for the android posts on lag, battery drain slowness, lack of updates and understanding if the "study" is even viable you are correct.:)

Are you talking about budget Androids because exactly ZERO of this issues excist on Android on flagships.

Sony Xperia Z5 doesnt have all of what you mentioned and battery lasts longer than iPhone

So Radon why on earth do you stay with iOS? You claimed many moons ago that you were off to the greener pastures of Android! But here you still are...

Huh?I am on both iOS and Android.I find both of them to complement each other.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Are you talking about budget Androids because exactly ZERO of this issues excist on Android on flagships.

Sony Xperia Z5 doesnt have all of what you mentioned and battery lasts longer than iPhone



Huh?I am on both iOS and Android.I find both of them to complement each other.
There aren't people complaining about all kinds of things on flagship Android phones?
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Yeah, i rather take those tiny hiccups - like loosing your music from the phone - than seeing nonsense lag. It is much more funnier to see what happens after an update or when connected to your computer. Sometimes there is simple magic!

My latest magic experience was songs disappered from my iphone (happened after updating to ios934). I was hoping to see them coming back now with ios935, but no magic at this time :(
I can't comment because it's never happened to me. But good job with providing anecdotal information that isn't relevant to the topic at hand.:)
 
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I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Are you talking about budget Androids because exactly ZERO of this issues excist on Android on flagships.

Sony Xperia Z5 doesnt have all of what you mentioned and battery lasts longer than iPhone



Huh?I am on both iOS and Android.I find both of them to complement each other.
Now you may be correct, but people in the Alternatives section are complaining about it. User error? Is android subject to higher user error than android, since we all know that O/S is flawless on flagship devices.:(
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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The amount of people taken in on this thread (and that fact that even Slashdot is going with this story) is incredibly sad. What hope is there in the world when people can't recognize a sham article?

Post #6 people. This is a headline grabbing "story" from a company who doesn't actually conduct research.
 

mrex

macrumors 68040
Jul 16, 2014
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I can't comment because it's never happened to me. But good job with providing anecdotal information that isn't relevant to the topic at hand.:)

I think it is quite relevant to the topic if you loose your files after updating your phone.

I have been lucky and never really had problems with ios updates - always worked for me like android too. But first time is always the first time. Songs just disappeared from my iphone but not from my ipad.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,153
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Gotta be in it to win it
I think it is quite relevant to the topic if you loose your files after updating your phone.

I have been lucky and never really had problems with ios updates - always worked for me like android too. But first time is always the first time. Songs just disappeared from my iphone but not from my ipad.
Be that as it may The stated topic is iOS crashes vs android crashes.
 
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