iOS & xCloud- Draconian Apple

[UKapple73]

For the first time since 2009, I am seriously considering moving to Android, and the decision by Apple to refuse its customers to be able to play a game streaming service like xCloud or Stadia is the reason. We are all acutely aware iOS is a walled garden. But this just seems over the top, the straw that broke the camels back if you will. We pay top dollar for these phones and when you realise you can’t play the Xbox games that android users can, it’s galling to say the least. Especially as there appears to be no good reason, the excuse of App Store rules....seriously? It’s streaming there’s no game downloaded! It’s greed, they don’t want another gaming platform in iOS, they want you to play their trashy mobile games on Arcade.
I wonder how many more might switch before Apple reverses this terrible decision.

 

[BATman.Berlin]

For the first time since 2009, I am seriously considering moving to Android, and the decision by Apple to refuse its customers to be able to play a game streaming service like xCloud or Stadia is the reason. We are all acutely aware iOS is a walled garden. But this just seems over the top, the straw that broke the camels back if you will. We pay top dollar for these phones and when you realise you can’t play the Xbox games that android users can, it’s galling to say the least. Especially as there appears to be no good reason, the excuse of App Store rules....seriously? It’s streaming there’s no game downloaded! It’s greed, they don’t want another gaming platform in iOS, they want you to play their trashy mobile games on Arcade.
I wonder how many more might switch before Apple reverses this terrible decision.

Good luck with Android. See you soon back here.
BTW, what you see at the surface does not tell you what is going on sub-surface. Apple playing hardball because MS does not want to pay for using.Apple’s infrastructure.
Imagine you drive down a highway and there is a toll bridge. You have two choices, either pay or take another route. Same here. With the reach of iOS, I believe it will be a matter of time till MS gives in. Personally, I do not care about xCloud. Too old for that.

 

[UKapple73]

I’m saying if you run ios14 then you have this issue. Therefore it’s an ios14 issue
I could have posted in the ios13 thread also, but some clever person like you would have said similar to you
If there is an all encompassing iOS forum, then i apologise and I’ll post it there
If not, I think placing into the latest version of iOS seems entirely appropriate

 

[TimFL1]

Good luck with Android. See you soon back here.
BTW, what you see at the surface does not tell you what is going on sub-surface. Apple playing hardball because MS does not want to pay for using.Apple’s infrastructure.
Imagine you drive down a highway and there is a toll bridge. You have two choices, either pay or take another route. Same here. With the reach of iOS, I believe it will be a matter of time till MS gives in. Personally, I do not care about xCloud. Too old for that.

No, that‘s not true. MS happily pays their cut for products like Office 365.

This is entirely about Apple not wanting cloud game streaming apps due to it circumventing the App Store model. It‘s the developer agreements blocking xCloud from even being a thing on iOS, way before any potential 30% shenanigans (hint: there are none) could even take place.

The message that this is about the 30% has to STOP, because it undermines the even bigger issue that plagues the Apple ecosystem: Apples hostile developer guidelines and agreements that stiffle or outright prevent fair competition.

 

[UKapple73]

No, that‘s not true. MS happily pays their cut for products like Office 365.

This is entirely about Apple not wanting cloud game streaming apps due to it circumventing the App Store model. It‘s the developer agreements blocking xCloud from even being a thing on iOS, way before any potential 30% shenanigans (hint: there are none) could even take place.

The message that this is about the 30% has to STOP, because it undermines the even bigger issue that plagues the Apple ecosystem: Apples hostile developer guidelines and agreements that stiffle or outright prevent fair competition.

I agree, you can always tell the Apple fanboys because they just come out with the “you’ve posted in the wrong place” rubbish rather than answer an uncomfortable truth about Apple.
sad really

 

[TimFL1]

I agree, you can always tell the Apple fanboys because they just come out with the “you’ve posted in the wrong place” rubbish rather than answer an uncomfortable truth about Apple.
sad really

I‘d call myself an Apple fanboy (fully invested in the ecosystem) and a rather stern defender of the 30% cut cause it‘s the industry standard, but what grinds my gears is the incredible developer hostile and wishy washy contracts they lay out (no 3rd party in-app payments, blocking cloud streaming apps, one app gets special treatment cause of market position etc. are just a drop in the overflowing barrel that is „wtf Apple agreement“).

I really hope they get hosed by the EU in one way or the other.

But yeah, you posted in the wrong place. There is a rather big thread in the news section about this very topic that discusses this „incident“ in detail.

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
Thread has been moved and off topic chatter has been removed

 

[tann]

Good luck with Android. See you soon back here.

There's nothing wrong with Android really, in fact many things are actually better/easier.