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iPad Air 10.5" is USB 2.
iPad Pro 10.5" is USB 3.

However, the Pro 10.5" only comes with a USB 2 cable, so to get USB 3 speeds you need to get your own Lightning to USB-C cable, or else a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter and a USB 3 cable.
 
iPad Air 10.5" is USB 2.
iPad Pro 10.5" is USB 3.

However, the Pro 10.5" only comes with a USB 2 cable, so to get USB 3 speeds you need to get your own Lightning to USB-C cable, or else a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter and a USB 3 cable.
Even with a USB-C to Lightning cable, the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 connects as a USB 2.0 device. File transfers using the USB 3 card reader do happen at USB 3 speeds, however.
 
Even with a USB-C to Lightning cable, the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 connects as a USB 2.0 device. File transfers using the USB 3 card reader do happen at USB 3 speeds, however.
Hmmm. Strange. It supposedly does fast charge with that cable though.

I have only tried the Lightning to USB 3 camera adapter, which as you say does work for USB 3 speeds.
 
Hmmm. Strange. It supposedly does fast charge with that cable though.

I have only tried the Lightning to USB 3 camera adapter, which as you say does work for USB 3 speeds.
It does fast charge- you can see the extra power draw in the Mac's system report.
 
Even with a USB-C to Lightning cable, the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 connects as a USB 2.0 device. File transfers using the USB 3 card reader do happen at USB 3 speeds, however.

Actually the lightning to USB-C cable is not working on ipados with a Fuji camera or Gdrive SSD :(
 
Actually the lightning to USB-C cable is not working on ipados with a Fuji camera or Gdrive SSD :(

yeah unfortunately "you're holding it wrong" is the tl;dr answer here. It's not your fault, it really would make sense if this did work but...

the full answer is that a lightning to USB-C cable does not enable the iPad to be a USB host. It is just for connecting the iPad as a USB peripheral to a computer host (for charging, syncing, etc). So it won't work to plug that in to a camera with USB-C or a USB-C card reader

To use iPadOS with a lightning port iPad, you still need one of Apple's dongles. The Apple "lightning to USB 3 adapter" dongle enables the iPad to be the computer host, and thats what will allow USB card readers and USB flash drives on iPadOS.
 
yeah unfortunately "you're holding it wrong" is the tl;dr answer here. It's not your fault, it really would make sense if this did work but...

the full answer is that a lightning to USB-C cable does not enable the iPad to be a USB host. It is just for connecting the iPad as a USB peripheral to a computer host (for charging, syncing, etc). So it won't work to plug that in to a camera with USB-C or a USB-C card reader

To use iPadOS with a lightning port iPad, you still need one of Apple's dongles. The Apple "lightning to USB 3 adapter" dongle enables the iPad to be the computer host, and thats what will allow USB card readers and USB flash drives on iPadOS.
So if we use lightning to usb 3 adapter we will be able to connect hard drvies on our air 3 on ios 13 ?
 
yeah unfortunately "you're holding it wrong" is the tl;dr answer here. It's not your fault, it really would make sense if this did work but...

the full answer is that a lightning to USB-C cable does not enable the iPad to be a USB host. It is just for connecting the iPad as a USB peripheral to a computer host (for charging, syncing, etc). So it won't work to plug that in to a camera with USB-C or a USB-C card reader

To use iPadOS with a lightning port iPad, you still need one of Apple's dongles. The Apple "lightning to USB 3 adapter" dongle enables the iPad to be the computer host, and thats what will allow USB card readers and USB flash drives on iPadOS.

So, not trying to be cynical, Apple will sell a lot of dongles!
 
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So, not trying to be cynical, Apple will sell a lot of dongles!

indeed, they have. And this is part of why the 2018 iPad Pro is a huge step forward. With standard class USB-C there's no longer any need to have an Apple-branded dongle. USB-C adapters and hubs should work same as on a laptop.

... and just incredibly frustrating to see the 2019 iPads released with the same old Lightning port.
 
indeed, they have. And this is part of why the 2018 iPad Pro is a huge step forward. With standard class USB-C there's no longer any need to have an Apple-branded dongle. USB-C adapters and hubs should work same as on a laptop.

... and just incredibly frustrating to see the 2019 iPads released with the same old Lightning port.
The thing that bugs me the most about the 2017 iPad Pro is not that I will have to use the dongle. The thing that bothers me the most is that I will have to use external power with the dongle for these USB drives.

I carry the dongle with me, but having to be tethered to a power plug is a hassle.
 
As long as they're powered by something other than the iPad, yes, although it seems that the iPad Air will only connect to those drives at USB 2.0 speeds.
I am fine as long as i am able to connect some usb drives of storage lile 64gb with just the apple connector cos this storage functionality that apple is bringing in ios 13 is basically for usb c peripherals cos they are the future but they should keep in mind that most of there devices still work on lightning slots
[doublepost=1560195123][/doublepost]Can anyone tell me there experience with sandisk ixpand
It is a good tool for transfering files and over all is it a good option to buy it or wait for ios 13 to come with usb support
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The thing that bugs me the most about the 2017 iPad Pro is not that I will have to use the dongle. The thing that bothers me the most is that I will have to use external power with the dongle for these USB drives.

I carry the dongle with me, but having to be tethered to a power plug is a hassle.
Yu have to use power hub for connecting small usb pen drives too or are yu talking about hard drives ??
 
Yu have to use power hub for connecting small usb pen drives too or are yu talking about hard drives ??
I don't know yet for sure about the small USB pen drives (since I'm still on iOS 12.3), but I will tell you that a lot of stuff that should work off USB power don't work off USB power through that dongle. For example, my simple flash card readers don't work unless I plug in external power. I did try some USB drives (emulating a flash card) and they didn't work either, so I suspect it will be the same in iPadOS 13.
 
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I had said in the past that what was big about USB C was not that it was more universal, since most things are still USB A, but the 7.5 watts of power.... Which now makes any lightning devices less valuable if you want to use external storage... Having said that, it's not just a matter of power, it's also a matter of protocols. Lightning tends to say that everything takes too much power, but with some dongles this limitations disappears for many low power devices.. I have a simple thumb-size USB 2.0 hub 1 USB A to 3 USB A that does the trick. For instance I had a midi keyboard which is USB powered. The ipad said it took too much power. With this dongle I could plug as many as 2 working perfectly. Now maybe that in IOS 13 Apple has removed this protocol thing (let's hope) but I am very confident that thumb drives will work well with the right dongle (without it it says too much power, with it doesn't but ios 12 can't use the drive). Not so with 2.5in drives however...
 
Bummed the air is at usb 2 speeds. I do worry about the port durability now as I can only imagine the ports being used substantially more now.

How does the durability of life gut ing to usb c compare
 
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