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1. I just watched the Ives iPad video after seeing Jobs presentation.

Why do they keep saying it is so "incredible to be able to hold the internet in your hands?" as if we have not been doing that since... 1994 with my Powerbook 145b that had the nascent internet on it?

2. Is there a possibility to tether this to an iPhone or turn it into an iPhone?

(so you could dock it in the car and use it with GPS among a zillion other uses?)

3. Will Word or other programs ever be put on it?

4. Is there a microphone in it?

5. What is it for, just hanging out at airports and coffee houses?

Doesn't Apple get it that we need interconnectivity for WORK? I'd buy it if I could make it into a phone, or make it into a laptop, but putting it in the middle with none of the important functions?

If this is the year 1930 of the Great Depression, Apple just came out with a silent film instead of a talkie.

I know you guys already have hashed it all over, but I don't get it.
 

NT1440

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1. I just watched the Ives iPad video after seeing Jobs presentation.

Why do they keep saying it is so "incredible to be able to hold the internet in your hands?" as if we have not been doing that since... 1994 with my Powerbook 145b that had the nascent internet on it?
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You use the internet while physically holding your laptop?

This form factor has you literally holding and interacting with your content, not just staring at it. If feels natural, and thats the future of mobile computing.
 

NT1440

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According to Steve Jobs himself. Go watch his keynote and see for yourself.

I've been watching it for 45 minutes now. I had no idea that simply saying "its like having the internet in your hand" somehow makes it the main and only selling point. Thats what I was getting at, stupid statements by people that aren't true.
 

Scorpio12345

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You use the internet while physically holding your laptop?

This form factor has you literally holding and interacting with your content, not just staring at it. If feels natural, and thats the future of mobile computing.

Hate to state the obvious, but isn't that what Apple's own iPhone and iPod Touch do? I get that its just a marketing slogan, but that's kind of half arsed a claim.....
 

NT1440

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Hate to state the obvious, but isn't that what Apple's own iPhone and iPod Touch do?

YES! Thats the point! Apple started building human interaction interfaces precisely so they can transition people to get used to intuitive computing. THATS why it runs the iphone OS, because THAT is the kind of interaction it was built from the ground up for. Why do people expect them to rebuild the wheel again when this was in the plans the entire time?
 

California

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Guys, Steve said it, Ives said it and other Apple guys on this video say it, too..

"it is so incredible to be able to hold the internet in your hands"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBbUI7D5Jsk&feature=related

I see what they are trying to say, but would rather have a big iPhone.

They should at least offer this as an upgrade somewhere down the line.

Jonathan Ives is a man I would marry, and i do like what he said in the beginning of this, but still, it's overhype for him at this point. They should hint not at a new business model but an expansion of their old iPhone model, then.

People have been holding the internet in their hands for a long long long time. Stupid tag line, I guess.
 

NT1440

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Guys, Steve said it, Ives said it and other Apple guys on this video say it, too..

"it is so incredible to be able to hold the internet in your hands"...

Again, how does saying one of their normal slogans/catchphrases make it the main selling point of the device? They wouldn't have had over an hour and a half of non internet related presentations if that was true at all.
 

calderone

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People have been holding the internet in their hands for a long long long time. Stupid tag line, I guess.

As someone else said, it is the change in interaction with the content. It is a stark change from the iPhone/iTouch because of the size of the display. You will seem have a more intimate experience with the net.

Sure I have hand the Internet in my hands, but not in a form I enjoy consuming. This is a step closer, in my opinion.
 

California

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YES! Thats the point! Apple started building human interaction interfaces precisely so they can transition people to get used to intuitive computing. THATS why it runs the iphone OS, because THAT is the kind of interaction it was built from the ground up for. Why do people expect them to rebuild the wheel again when this was in the plans the entire time?

Just another dumb question.

Does intuitive computing somehow make people more productive or is it just a lot of hand flourishing? In other words, what is the productivity purpose in it? So I can just "become one" with my iPad?

Is there some scifi machine/human melding here I am missing?

Here's something really philosophical: do I want to be one with my machine and always "interconnected"? I'm not sure I do. When do we have time to "be ourselves" and "think for ourselves"? Plants only grow in the dark, alone. Just a question, not a position.

Here's one for Jonathan Ives: could he be as creative as he is if he was constantly wired to the internet and constantly online and interconnected? I don't think so.

The "it's natural, it's intuitive" argument doesn't sell me. I'm just thinking out loud, sorry.
 

calderone

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Just another dumb question.

Does intuitive computing somehow make people more productive or is it just a lot of hand flourishing? In other words, what is the productivity purpose in it? So I can just "become one" with my iPad?

Is there some scifi machine/human melding here I am missing?

That really reads as a closed question.
 

NT1440

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Just another dumb question.

Does intuitive computing somehow make people more productive or is it just a lot of hand flourishing?

Is there some scifi machine/human melding here I am missing?

It's natural, making the EXPERIENCE much more enjoyable. We are seeing the beginning of the end of current menu navigation based computing.

Here's the thing about technology, as it gets better, you start noticing it less and less because an integration into your lifestyle. Thats the entire basis of everything apple does.
 

California

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It's natural, making the EXPERIENCE much more enjoyable. We are seeing the beginning of the end of current menu navigation based computing.

Here's the thing about technology, as it gets better, you start noticing it less and less because an integration into your lifestyle. Thats the entire basis of everything apple does.

I hate to sound like Adous Huxley or Orwell, but what lifestyle are you suggesting that we are living that would make the iPad seamlessly integrated into our lives? I remember thinking about this a few years ago. I just wonder how much real true individualistic and creative work gets done when we are so wirelessly interconnected. It seems unnatural to me, not natural.
 

bossxii

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1. I just watched the Ives iPad video after seeing Jobs presentation.

Why do they keep saying it is so "incredible to be able to hold the internet in your hands?" as if we have not been doing that since... 1994 with my Powerbook 145b that had the nascent internet on it?

2. Is there a possibility to tether this to an iPhone or turn it into an iPhone?

(so you could dock it in the car and use it with GPS among a zillion other uses?)

3. Will Word or other programs ever be put on it?

4. Is there a microphone in it?

5. What is it for, just hanging out at airports and coffee houses?

1) This is the "new" and improved internet :D

2) If AT&T ever allows us to tether, iPhone could act as a wifi/adhoc network for it. I guess I'm told this already can be done by jail-breaking the iphone.

3) iWork will be (Pages)

4) Yes (see below)

5) Same thing any iPod Touch is used for, but on a larger screen which will give developers more options. Wifi + 3g+ headset + VoiP apps already out today (or yesterday) think iCall or something like that.

Per the Apple tech spec page:

Input and output
Dock connector
3.5-mm stereo headphone jack
Built-in speakers
Microphone
SIM card tray (Wi-Fi + 3G model only)
 

dukebound85

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Jul 17, 2005
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You use the internet while physically holding your laptop?

This form factor has you literally holding and interacting with your content, not just staring at it. If feels natural, and thats the future of mobile computing.

According to who? Are you head of Apples marketing team?:rolleyes:

lol...who is to say that its the future of mobile computing? touch gestures are relatively cumbersome
 

OrangeSVTguy

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If they ever release a VOIP app for the iPad then it could turn it into an "iPhone". Would be a step back in time like the old 80's cell phone "the Brick". Imagine holding that thing up to your head lol or a bluetooth headset would work too.

Also, just imagine it... an unlimited data and calling plan without a contract for $29.99 a month. Revol couldn't even touch that lol :p
 
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