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And iWhiners: Part of the territory.

So much debate over specs, flash, cameras, and now that it is out, screen use outside, weight, etc. People love to complain here about Apple and their prices, their lack of features, their closed systems. But let me remind you that you are fortunate to have Apple. Yes you are, so quit your whining.

Apple gave us the iMac. Then the iPod. They were back. They used the iPod halo effect to try to get M$ users to buy their Mac hardware. But then they did something that really set the ball rolling for the iPhone, for the iPad, for everything they have done. And that is the iTunes Music Store. That was all it was in the beginning, a way to buy music on your computer to put into your iPods. To get songs instead of albums. A way to get songs you hadn't heard in years or owned since you had them on vinyl or tape. The iTunes Music Store made the iPod infinitely more successful than it would have been without it. It is the foundation that has made Apple the digital Wal-Mart.

The iTunes Music Store paved the way for Movies and TV Shows, paved the way for the iPhone, which of course led to the App Store. People long before the iPhone were always complaining about Apple's closed systems and the lack of a mid range tower. You either had to buy an iMac or a MacPro (PowerMac back then). And they complained about the price tag. Proponents, aka fanboys, would argue that the price included the stability, the software package, the total integration of software and hardware, and the end-all-be-all user experience. Apple extended that 'user experience' to the iPod and iPhone with the slick UIs and ease of use that OS X is famous for. They don't just construct a user interface, they make an intuitive interface. The iPhone multitouch which is now a part of the iPad interface is the current culmination of that UI/II.

And regardless of what the accomplish, how much market dominance they achieve with their iPods and iPhones in spite of their relatively low market share in computers, people continue to expect, demand, and whine about what their latest iteration doesn't have, doesn't do, etc. Well Apple doesn't owe you anything. Sorry. But no other company has the audacity to strike the content deals they do. To bring you a centralized shopping place for media, and yet have it perform so well. You can't complain about a closed system and at the same time expect it to work so well without bugs. Who else but Apple would bring together the integration of so many forms of media. M$, Dell, Amazon, Real ??? Please. They can all barely do one or two things half-assed to semi-ok.

A new evolution of their mobile OS gets previewed today and instead of being thankful for the new features, people are first to complain about what they didn't get and how something they bought last weekend doesn't do everything they think it should be designed for in a first revision. They have been messing with the iPad behind closed doors for years, trying to make something that would be worth releasing, taking out the things that would make it frustrating to use and make you want to smash it so that at the end of the day most people would have something in their hands that they truly enjoyed the use of.

If you don't like the iPad or other Apple device or computer and don't want to buy their stuff or use their App and Media Stores, there are other platforms out there. But Apple really doesn't care.
 
So, essentially if any company EXCEPT Apple released the iPad, it would be a flop.....at least, if you're going to focus on the technical specs. Only apple has the right ecosystem to make it a success.

I'll agree with that.
 
And iWhiners: Part of the territory.

So much debate over specs, flash, cameras, and now that it is out, screen use outside, weight, etc. People love to complain here about Apple and their prices, their lack of features, their closed systems. But let me remind you that you are fortunate to have Apple. Yes you are, so quit your whining.

Apple gave us the iMac. Then the iPod. They were back. They used the iPod halo effect to try to get M$ users to buy their Mac hardware. But then they did something that really set the ball rolling for the iPhone, for the iPad, for everything they have done. And that is the iTunes Music Store. That was all it was in the beginning, a way to buy music on your computer to put into your iPods. To get songs instead of albums. A way to get songs you hadn't heard in years or owned since you had them on vinyl or tape. The iTunes Music Store made the iPod infinitely more successful than it would have been without it. It is the foundation that has made Apple the digital Wal-Mart.

The iTunes Music Store paved the way for Movies and TV Shows, paved the way for the iPhone, which of course led to the App Store. People long before the iPhone were always complaining about Apple's closed systems and the lack of a mid range tower. You either had to buy an iMac or a MacPro (PowerMac back then). And they complained about the price tag. Proponents, aka fanboys, would argue that the price included the stability, the software package, the total integration of software and hardware, and the end-all-be-all user experience. Apple extended that 'user experience' to the iPod and iPhone with the slick UIs and ease of use that OS X is famous for. They don't just construct a user interface, they make an intuitive interface. The iPhone multitouch which is now a part of the iPad interface is the current culmination of that UI/II.

And regardless of what the accomplish, how much market dominance they achieve with their iPods and iPhones in spite of their relatively low market share in computers, people continue to expect, demand, and whine about what their latest iteration doesn't have, doesn't do, etc. Well Apple doesn't owe you anything. Sorry. But no other company has the audacity to strike the content deals they do. To bring you a centralized shopping place for media, and yet have it perform so well. You can't complain about a closed system and at the same time expect it to work so well without bugs. Who else but Apple would bring together the integration of so many forms of media. M$, Dell, Amazon, Real ??? Please. They can all barely do one or two things half-assed to semi-ok.

A new evolution of their mobile OS gets previewed today and instead of being thankful for the new features, people are first to complain about what they didn't get and how something they bought last weekend doesn't do everything they think it should be designed for in a first revision. They have been messing with the iPad behind closed doors for years, trying to make something that would be worth releasing, taking out the things that would make it frustrating to use and make you want to smash it so that at the end of the day most people would have something in their hands that they truly enjoyed the use of.

If you don't like the iPad or other Apple device or computer and don't want to buy their stuff or use their App and Media Stores, there are other platforms out there. But Apple really doesn't care.

Agree...
 
Google (more likely) and Microsoft (less likely) could also have success in the right scenarios. Or other manufacturers could in collaboration with them. I think the iTunes ecosystem is vital for iPods but not vital for the iPad.
 
Absolutely-
Say what you will about being a "closed platform" "sandbox" or "software dictatorship"

Apple still manages to provide everything you could want with a total oversight of quality and consistency. While nay-sayers can poo-poo Apple's questionable approval process, they tend to forget that the App-Store provides probably the greatest venue for software distribution in history for developers. Apple is hell-bent on protecting the end user at all costs- which is why it's so successful.

AND - I'm sticking to my prediction that we have yet to see the full saga of the Apple TV play out; while it's been knocked and called a failure for years, I'm betting that Apple simply has yet to fully implement their grand plan; Apple TV Apps.
 
I'm an Apple TV owner and love it. I think almost anyone who took one into their home for a week would love it, actually. The Apple TV's problem is simply exposure. It has to be part of your life for you to appreciate it, and Apple has never really focused on hyping or promoting it. I bet 10 million households would want one if they test-drove it for a week, but most people don't know what it does.

I say this as I've started trying out Boxee using my desktop computer plugged to a 21.5" monitor via DVI and to my 46" Sony via HDMI ... and it's also good. But it requires a lot more geek credentials to set it up well, and the aforementioned desktop cost eight times as much as an Apple TV.
 
I'm an Apple TV owner and love it. I think almost anyone who took one into their home for a week would love it, actually. The Apple TV's problem is simply exposure. It has to be part of your life for you to appreciate it, and Apple has never really focused on hyping or promoting it. I bet 10 million households would want one if they test-drove it for a week, but most people don't know what it does.

I say this as I've started trying out Boxee using my desktop computer plugged to a 21.5" monitor via DVI and to my 46" Sony via HDMI ... and it's also good. But it requires a lot more geek credentials to set it up well, and the aforementioned desktop cost eight times as much as an Apple TV.

My father-in-law bought an Apple TV because he loved seeing pictures on ours. He doesn't have broadband or a home network so for him it involves using an ethernet cable from his PC laptop to the Apple TV to add music and photos, mostly photos. He turns it on on the weekends as background and hasn't even tapped the other uses of it. My wife loves it because she can sit and watch the pictures for hours. But the best thing about it is being able to cue up any movie we have, especially kids movies without the worry of lost or damaged DVDs.
 
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