iPad Pro Ipad Pro 10.5 [ 2017 ] to Ipad Pro 2021

[beerglass007]

I'm thinking of upgrading my 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 256GB wifi for a new 2020 M1 Pro tomorrow

Will IOS 15 be supported on the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 ? Also will there be much difference in usage, I know its going to be loads quicker but the OS hasn't really moved this platform on much and way i've been quite relaxed in upgrading over the passed few years

But the battery is showing signs ageing now, the screen has a few white spots and does feel slightly slow when compared to my iPhone 12 PRO

 

[rui no onna]

Yes, I expect the 2017 will be supported for quite a while yet.

Even the 2015/16 Pros still perform well enough on 14 that I wouldn't be surprised if even they get 15.

2021 gives you fresh battery, presumably a display without white spots and a bit snappier performance.

 

[beerglass007]

Just need to decide on 11 or 12 screen size now

 

[cucafcp]

on the same boat. gonna opt for 11 inch.

 

[beerglass007]

on the same boat. gonna opt for 11 inch.

Yeah i'm now thinking 12.9 will be too big

 

[cucafcp]

Yeah i'm now thinking 12.9 will be too big

Well, I bet the display on the 12.9 will be brilliant in every sense. I would love also to have that kind of contrast that almost matches the infinite level of OLED.

But still, I want something comfortable for couch and bedtime use.

 

[MrGimper]

I'll be snagging at 12.9 to upgrade my 10.5 Pro

 

[MrEcted]

As far as your usage question goes:

I guess that really depends on how you use it. The reason I'm not upgrading from my 2017 10.5 is because the experience will basically be exactly the same for me. Sure the new iPad is a little nicer looking and it has a fancy new port but in the end it's going to feel 98% exactly the same (only thing I wish my 2017 had is tap to wake, but that's mostly a non-issue).

I use my 2017 iPad Pro for media consumption, drawing, sheet music, light photo editing, light video editing, some music production (if they moved Logic over to the iPad that would be a game changer!) and a handful of other tasks and the 2017 handles it all without skipping a single beat so it's not like the newest iPad Pro is going to suddenly feel drastically faster because everything is already super fast for me - as we've been saying for awhile now the big problem with iPad Pros is that the hardware is MILES ahead of the available software, so performance improvements really don't mean much for a vast majority of us, even those of us that rely on the iPad Pros pretty heavily.

Trust me, I love new toys as much as the next guy and I had money put away just to buy a new iPad Pro, but then I got to thinking - all I'm going to end up doing with a new IPP is spend $1300 on the iPad, buy a $130 Apple Pencil that will just replace my current Pencil, and probably spend way too much on a keyboard, spending upwards of $1600-1800 total... just to do exactly the same things with a few *very minor* added conveniences.

Nice try Apple, but my wallet wins this round. Come talk to me when there's software out there that can actually leverage all of this power. The "shiny new toy" feeling only lasts a few days at most and that's all I'd end up paying for. Not worth it (to me).

 

[AutomaticApple]

Even the 2015/16 Pros still perform well enough on 14 that I wouldn't be surprised if even they get 15.

If the iPhone 6S doesn't get iOS 15, I don't see the other A9(X) devices getting iOS 15 either.

 

[iamMacPerson]

If the iPhone 6S doesn't get iOS 15, I don't see the other A9(X) devices getting iOS 15 either.

Why not? iPad Air 2 got iPadOS 13 & 14 when iPhone 6/6 Plus were left on iOS 12.

 

[rui no onna]

If the iPhone 6S doesn't get iOS 15, I don't see the other A9(X) devices getting iOS 15 either.

Sure but it's not confirmed yet if 6S will be dropped on iOS 15. We'll probably find out during WWDC.

 

[AutomaticApple]

Why not? iPad Air 2 got iPadOS 13 & 14 when iPhone 6/6 Plus were left on iOS 12.

The iPhone 6/6 Plus only had 1GB of RAM while the iPad Air 2 had 2GB of RAM.

Sure but it's not confirmed yet if 6S will be dropped on iOS 15. We'll probably find out during WWDC.

Well, we only have a month or so to find out. There have been a few reports so far.

 

[iamMacPerson]

The iPhone 6/6 Plus only had 1GB of RAM while the iPad Air 2 had 2GB of RAM.

Well, we only have a month or so to find out. There have been a few reports so far.

I understand but making a blanket statement that just because the iPhone 6s probably won't be supported in iOS 15 that the 1st Gen iPad Pros won't either holds no water. By separating out the iPad Air 2 from the iPhone 6, Apple has shown they won't just sunset an entire generation of processors in one fell swoop. And while the A9X did not have the same sizable improvement over the A8X that the A9 had over the A8, the graphics performance was leaps and bounds better than the iPhone 6s. This seems to be where the Air 2 is lagging the most on iOS 14, not with CPU performance but instead in the video and framebuffer area. This coming from someone who has been using an Air 2 as a daily device for the last month. This is reenforced by the number of people on these forums still praising their 1st Gen Pros.

 

[AutomaticApple]

pple has shown they won't just sunset an entire generation of processors in one fell swoop.

They did so with the A5, A6, and A7 processors.

 

[Frixos]

I'm thinking of upgrading my 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 256GB wifi for a new 2020 M1 Pro tomorrow

Will IOS 15 be supported on the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 ? Also will there be much difference in usage, I know its going to be loads quicker but the OS hasn't really moved this platform on much and way i've been quite relaxed in upgrading over the passed few years

But the battery is showing signs ageing now, the screen has a few white spots and does feel slightly slow when compared to my iPhone 12 PRO

For future releases: Considering that Ipad OS 14 supports the 2015 Ipad Pro, there's no way Ipad OS 15 would have dropped both the 2015 and 2017 models.
With Ipad OS 15 supporting the 2015 Ipad Pro, I would not worry about the 2017 Ipad Pro losing support anytime soon. At least through Ipad OS 16, I'd bet closer to 17 or 18.

 

[VaruLV]

As far as your usage question goes:

I guess that really depends on how you use it. The reason I'm not upgrading from my 2017 10.5 is because the experience will basically be exactly the same for me. Sure the new iPad is a little nicer looking and it has a fancy new port but in the end it's going to feel 98% exactly the same (only thing I wish my 2017 had is tap to wake, but that's mostly a non-issue).

I use my 2017 iPad Pro for media consumption, drawing, sheet music, light photo editing, light video editing, some music production (if they moved Logic over to the iPad that would be a game changer!) and a handful of other tasks and the 2017 handles it all without skipping a single beat so it's not like the newest iPad Pro is going to suddenly feel drastically faster because everything is already super fast for me - as we've been saying for awhile now the big problem with iPad Pros is that the hardware is MILES ahead of the available software, so performance improvements really don't mean much for a vast majority of us, even those of us that rely on the iPad Pros pretty heavily.

Trust me, I love new toys as much as the next guy and I had money put away just to buy a new iPad Pro, but then I got to thinking - all I'm going to end up doing with a new IPP is spend $1300 on the iPad, buy a $130 Apple Pencil that will just replace my current Pencil, and probably spend way too much on a keyboard, spending upwards of $1600-1800 total... just to do exactly the same things with a few *very minor* added conveniences.

Nice try Apple, but my wallet wins this round. Come talk to me when there's software out there that can actually leverage all of this power. The "shiny new toy" feeling only lasts a few days at most and that's all I'd end up paying for. Not worth it (to me).

Well reasoned opinion!
I would still use my 10.5” model, it was replaced due to white spot issue under warranty, but since there was no guarantee that the issue wont manifest in replacement unit as well, I sold mine.
I longed, once in a while, for bigger display while using it and even preordered 12.9 M1, but after reading about overheating display issues(indentation/wave/ripple effect) I cancelled my order and went for 11 M1, hopefully its regular LED display is more reliable and wont develop any issues long term due to additional heat that M1 supposedly generates when pushed or being used browsing add heavy pages.

 

[Booji]

I recently upgraded from a 10.5" Pro to an 11" M1 Pro. In all honesty, the 10.5 is still pretty damn fast and can do most everything I need it to do, but what pushed me over the top was the fact that my wife's Air 2 finally gave up, and it made sense to hand her down mine, rather than her getting a new Air.

Going from a 10.5 to an 11" is quite a nice spec bump and I am more than pleased with the upgrade, but this was largely due to the fact that the 10.5 could be put to good use.

 

[Benhama]

Can anyone else share their experiences having upgraded from the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5" to the new 11" M1?

 

[NavySEAL6]

Can anyone else share their experiences having upgraded from the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5" to the new 11" M1?

Looking for more experiences as well

 

[Homme]

I understand but making a blanket statement that just because the iPhone 6s probably won't be supported in iOS 15 that the 1st Gen iPad Pros won't either holds no water. By separating out the iPad Air 2 from the iPhone 6, Apple has shown they won't just sunset an entire generation of processors in one fell swoop. And while the A9X did not have the same sizable improvement over the A8X that the A9 had over the A8, the graphics performance was leaps and bounds better than the iPhone 6s. This seems to be where the Air 2 is lagging the most on iOS 14, not with CPU performance but instead in the video and framebuffer area. This coming from someone who has been using an Air 2 as a daily device for the last month. This is reenforced by the number of people on these forums still praising their 1st Gen Pros.

But iOS/iPadOS compatibility based on history alone is either to do with

if the CPU can handle it
If there can be enough RAM
or both

however GPU power is (if any) a reason why Apple drops support.

but yeah it’s ridiculous seeing some peoples post if the A9 devices get dropped then so is A9X. A9X SoC is also better in single/multicore performance than A10 SoC of iPod Touch 7G, and also the way X chips are built not to mention the turbocharged horsepower the A9X has compared to how weak that A10 has

Also 12.9 inch A9X pro has 4GB of RAM compared to the A9/A10 of the touch so it still holds up just as well

They did so with the A5, A6, and A7 processors.

yes but all 3 had different reasons?

 

[rgeiger97]

Can anyone else share their experiences having upgraded from the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5" to the new 11" M1?

I upgraded because my 10.5 had the brighter spot about 2 inches above the home button. It was starting to drive me nuts, so I upgraded it. The 2021 11" was the newest available so it is what I got. The spec bump was a big plus. The 10.5 was by no means slow, the screen was just bothering me. My wife said the spot didn't bother her so I gave it to her.

 

[slplss]

Well, I bet the display on the 12.9 will be brilliant in every sense. I would love also to have that kind of contrast that almost matches the infinite level of OLED.

But still, I want something comfortable for couch and bedtime use.

What I found “finite” about my OLED displays - they only go so bright when compared to XDR. Isn’t the contrast on XDR ”infinite” (that buzzword) when it has true blacks too? I know the zones are much larger than pixel, but still, it excells in HDR. For bed and couch, I’d recommend a tablet pillow, even for the 11”.

 

[jsmith1]

Better to wait for the new Air…much better bang for buck and all you would need and more…save your money…I’m doing the same thing

 

[NCnewbie]

Can anyone else share their experiences having upgraded from the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5" to the new 11" M1?

I've had the new 11" M1 for almost two weeks now, and just now decided to keep it. I've been happy with my 10.5 iPP, but have constantly worried that mine would develop the dreaded white spot, so I decided to trade it in since Apple is giving me about half what I spent on it originally. I was really torn about whether I should upgrade and if I did, which one I should get (also considered the Air 4), but ultimately, fear of the white spot and the extra storage of the M1 convinced me. It also helped that I found the M1 as an open box, so I paid less than I would have with the educational discount. The 10.5 was still pretty fast and Touch ID was helpful during the pandemic. I played with the Air 4 at the store, and honestly, if it came with 128GB, I would have gotten that instead, but the price of the 256GB was more than what I paid for my M1 (I didn't notice any difference with the Air not having Promotion). While I was testing the iPads and Macs, I did notice that the brightness was 100% on all of them, so I had to reduce them down to where I usually have mine (less than 40%) to have a fair comparison. Videos on both the 10.5 and the M1 look great. I did feel like the sound was quieter on the M1 at lower levels (where I usually keep it at), but that wasn't a problem for me b/c I often felt the 10.5 was too loud at its lowest setting. Oh, and initially I tried on Apple's website to purchase the iPP on the day of release and do the trade in in-store when I picked up the new one, but the only option it gave me was mail in (the website specifically says that you can't trade it in when you get to the store). I ended up driving a few hours to the store and encountered no issues trading in the 10.5 on the spot (but had to wait), so if anyone is put off by Phobio, if you can get to a store, I'd recommend scheduling an appointment online to reduce the amount of time you have to wait. Hope this helps for those of you still on the fence.

 

[waloshin]

Better to wait for the new Air…much better bang for buck and all you would need and more…save your money…I’m doing the same thing

Great fortune teller what are we getting with this new Air...