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scalar009

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Obviously the M2 is better but how much better? I couldn’t find benchmarks testing fps between the 12.9 M1 vs M2 ipad.

I plan on playing Diablo, Undecember, Genshin, CoD, and other big games at ultra settings.

Right now I can get a open box Ipad 12.9 M1 for $800, or a M2 for $1250 (both prices after taxes). That’s a $450 difference which is almost half the cost of ANOTHER ipad lol
 

rui no onna

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Iirc 25-35%? It’s probably going to be a while before games are optimized for M2, though.

If the open-box M1 12.9 is in excellent condition and AC+ eligible, that’s a mighty tempting price.
 

scalar009

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Iirc 25-35%? It’s probably going to be a while before games are optimized for M2, though.

If the open-box M1 12.9 is in excellent condition and AC+ eligible, that’s a mighty tempting price.


The optimization part sucks, I thought all games ran at max potential no matter the chip. I was reading yesterday Diablo was locked to 30 fps and high graphics on the M2. Genshin didn’t have the 120 fps mode either
 

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The optimization part sucks, I thought all games ran at max potential no matter the chip. I was reading yesterday Diablo was locked to 30 fps and high graphics on the M2. Genshin didn’t have the 120 fps mode either
As much as people don’t like max tech, he did a pretty good comparison between the m1 and m2 iPads. For shirt bursts it was a pretty big jump, but when he did a more sustained test, they came out almost equal because of how much the m2 had to throttle.
 

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The optimization part sucks, I thought all games ran at max potential no matter the chip. I was reading yesterday Diablo was locked to 30 fps and high graphics on the M2. Genshin didn’t have the 120 fps mode either
Genshin DOES have 120FPS on iPadOS in a recent patch. I have no idea where that article got their information from.

If you have plan to get genshin going at all, go with M2. M1 with max setting and 120FPS drops frames here and there, during certain fights in open world it drops even worse. It’s sadly not capable of running the game on full speed. M3 maybe can tame that beast.

Also be very extra careful about open box deal. If the seller shows any sign of impatience, find an excuse and leave. You don’t want a locked device after you get home.
 
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rui no onna

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The optimization part sucks, I thought all games ran at max potential no matter the chip. I was reading yesterday Diablo was locked to 30 fps and high graphics on the M2. Genshin didn’t have the 120 fps mode either

Genshin DOES have 120FPS on iPadOS in a recent patch. I have no idea where that article got their information from.

Was that 120FPS option on the M2 iPP or on older models?

I’m guessing Apple doesn’t want games playing at 10 FPS so when an app/game encounters unknown hardware, they limit settings to lower options at first.

There’s a new update just released today so maybe it’s been updated for M2 now.
 

Shirasaki

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Was that 120FPS option on the M2 iPP or on older models?

I’m guessing Apple doesn’t want games playing at 10 FPS so when an app/game encounters unknown hardware, they limit settings to lower options at first.

There’s a new update just released today so maybe it’s been updated for M2 now.
On older models. At least on M1. And that option has been there for a little while. And no. That has nothing to do with Apple limiting options. It’s up to developer to implement it. For example, PC version of genshin never receive a proper 120FPS mode. Capped at 60fps.

That new update is mainly for incorporating new wishes, events, etc. I doubt it is updated “for M2”.
 

rui no onna

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On older models. At least on M1. And that option has been there for a little while. And no. That has nothing to do with Apple limiting options. It’s up to developer to implement it. For example, PC version of genshin never receive a proper 120FPS mode. Capped at 60fps.

That new update is mainly for incorporating new wishes, events, etc. I doubt it is updated “for M2”.

I know the 120 FPS option has been there for a while. The thing is it’s not available on all iPad models. Iirc, my iPad mini 6 is capped at 60 FPS (makes sense). I’m gonna have to install Genshin on a 2nd gen iPP to see if 120 FPS shows up as an option there.

Mind, when the M1 iPad Pro was first released, ProCreate limited the available layers to the same as 2GB RAM iPads. They only increased it after an update.

I don’t think it’s about Apple limiting options but rather providing performance guidelines so developers play it safe when they encounter unknown hardware.
 

Shirasaki

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I know the 120 FPS option has been there for a while. The thing is it’s not available on all iPad models.
Well, likely not all, but for M1, they enabled that setting about one version ago (Aka 3.1). And I used it to play on my M1 iPad Pro here and there and experience wasn’t stellar to say the least.
 

scalar009

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Ok so now Im in a bigger dilemma, amazon has a 256gb ipad pro M1 for $925 or I can get the 128GB M2 for $1250 (both after taxes).

My iphone is has 70gb of games Im not sure I need 256GB, I dont know what to do >.<
 

Shirasaki

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Ok so now Im in a bigger dilemma, amazon has a 256gb ipad pro M1 for $925 or I can get the 128GB M2 for $1250 (both after taxes).

My iphone is has 70gb of games Im not sure I need 256GB, I dont know what to do >.<
The M1 one looks ok and you can definitely play genshin with it just like me, and you can save some money to do something else or buy a magic keyboard folio, which can boost the iPad Pro utility by a huge margin.
M2 vs M1 only have 40% GPU performance increase after all. Not bad, but when almost everything else is equal, M2 alone doesn't warrant that $300 price tag, taking into consideration the storage is half of M1 as well.
 

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Obviously the M2 is better but how much better? I couldn’t find benchmarks testing fps between the 12.9 M1 vs M2 ipad.

I plan on playing Diablo, Undecember, Genshin, CoD, and other big games at ultra settings.

Right now I can get a open box Ipad 12.9 M1 for $800, or a M2 for $1250 (both prices after taxes). That’s a $450 difference which is almost half the cost of ANOTHER ipad lol

Maxtech said that you can get 120fps with the M2 on Genshin and 116fps with the M1 so there is that
 

thecatranch

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Genshin on m2 iPad Pro was stuck on 60fps and looked like 720p resolution on version 3.1 . Just updated to 3.2 and can confirm 120fps is now selectable, I cranked all settings to max so it looks high resolution now, all smooth as butter so far will be interesting to see if this causes the iPad to get as toasty as divinity 2 does.
 

teh_hunterer

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Genshin DOES have 120FPS on iPadOS in a recent patch. I have no idea where that article got their information from.

If you have plan to get genshin going at all, go with M2. M1 with max setting and 120FPS drops frames here and there, during certain fights in open world it drops even worse. It’s sadly not capable of running the game on full speed. M3 maybe can tame that beast.

Also be very extra careful about open box deal. If the seller shows any sign of impatience, find an excuse and leave. You don’t want a locked device after you get home.

Because Genshin is a poorly optimised and poorly coded mess. It's not a shortfall of the M1.
 

MayaUser

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Obviously the M2 is better but how much better? I couldn’t find benchmarks testing fps between the 12.9 M1 vs M2 ipad.

I plan on playing Diablo, Undecember, Genshin, CoD, and other big games at ultra settings.

Right now I can get a open box Ipad 12.9 M1 for $800, or a M2 for $1250 (both prices after taxes). That’s a $450 difference which is almost half the cost of ANOTHER ipad lol
Diablo Immortal on M1 ipad air runs at 60hz High
On 12.9" M2 it runs at 60hz Ultra (with possibility with an update to go 120fps) this was back in the release date, so maybe on the M2 you already can now
 
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Shirasaki

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Because Genshin is a poorly optimised and poorly coded mess. It's not a shortfall of the M1.
But if M1 can run a poorly optimised and poorly coded game at its max setting, isn’t that even more amazing?
Also, regardless, genshin is still insanely popular, thus comparison will be made against Apple Silicon from time To time.
 

scalar009

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Diablo Immortal on M1 ipad air runs at 60hz High
On 12.9" M2 it runs at 60hz Ultra (with possibility with an update to go 120fps) this was back in the release date, so maybe on the M2 you already can now

It runs at Ultra 60 fps for me on M1 too
 
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