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How do you feel about the latest iPhone 12?

  • Overwhelmed

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Underwhelmed

    Votes: 7 23.3%
  • Still waiting on that 'wait, there's one last thing' moment

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Apple has no R&D pipeline

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Apple has an R&D pipeline, but is milking us dry on upgrades by slowly innovating

    Votes: 12 40.0%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .

FireFish

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Sep 12, 2007
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I’m not trying to be a hater, I’m trying to understand the upgrade cycle and innovation process involved in the process of designing and mass-producing the iPhone every 12 months.

I placed every single major hardware release on a desk and asked my five-year-old to identify patterns pertaining to the hardware. Even he was confused by a few major upgrades side-by-side. He said, "Daddy, dis da same". Where was he when I rushed to upgrade, and slept in the mall for 14 hours to be the first in line.

It is UNDENIABLE that Apple is flip-flopping between casings - and somehow we’re right back at the encasing featured in the very first 2 iPhone generations. IPhone 3 (and the subsequent iPhone 3S - the first time Apple really phoned-in an upgrade by adding an S for speed to the end of the product name and nothing else other than a slightly newer chip) was that poof moment where we went from a square encasement to a more liquid cylindrical based hardware design. We went back to that square box-like case for the iPhone 4 and so on, and after shelling out $1,600+ for my current iPhone 11 Pro Max, which most people wouldn’t spend on three laptops, I’m back to the start line with me scratching my head and asking myself, “what is going on?”

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This iPhone is the very best iPhone we've ever made
This is another statement that IRKS me every time Tim Cook and Co utters it on that keynote stage.
It's a clear throwback to when Steve Jobs would say it. But when he said it, there was significant value to it.
At this point, what idiot would stand on stage an say this ISN'T the 'best iPhone we've made yet'? Of course it is! That's what happens when you add a feature or two to a phone that was last year's 'best iPhone yet'. What? Did you think we'd consider for a moment that maybe this 'isn't the best iPhone yet?' Who is the 1 schmuck who goes to the Apple Store after these Keynotes and says, Nah, I prefer the phone that is 2 years old, because it is the best iPhone yet..
 
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Stephencovar

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May 20, 2015
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Pasadena, California
Personally, I’m a bit underwhelmed. At first I was really excited and thought to myself that I was going to upgrade. I quickly started to feel like I really didn’t have a reasons to upgrade. I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max and was on the iPhone Upgrade Program (I paid off my loan early). I did a pro/cons list and really the only reasons I’d upgrade are:
  • 5G
  • New design
  • 6.7” vs 6.5” display
To me, that doesn’t really justify spending money for an upgrade. Even if I were to trade in or sell my current phone. I have AppleCare+ on the phone still. The camera doesn’t excite me much because I have a mirrorless camera and multiple lenses that I shoot with. I don’t shoot video so the Dolby Vision capabilities don’t do much for me. MagSafe is cool but I can use the same charger I use now. The user experience is going to be identical because at the end of the day, iOS 14 is iOS 14. I’m still torn but to be quite frank, I don’t think I’m going to upgrade this year. I’ll probably just wait for next years model and go from there.
 

FireFish

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Original poster
Sep 12, 2007
282
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@Stephencovar you sound very rational to me. How does the most liquid company in the world fail to connect with loyalist buyers like us? I am still shocked and puzzled by Apple’s decision to hold off making last month’s annual keynote event an iPhone focused event and I know that the public took that as a good sign for an innovative iPhone 14. But wtf was so hush-hush and not ready for announcing at that point? It’s not as if they’re not sure if 5G was going to be introduced; so unless there’s a major last minute exclusion we aren’t hearing about that was scrapped in the final hours before launching a video keynote (which merely tells us that we should be so lucky to be able to preorder this iPhone in a month), I’m baffled how Apple is operating this virtually non-existing pot of innovation.
 

mthomas184

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Aug 11, 2016
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Cupertino
Except, the original iPhone looked nothing like this.

the iPhone 3G and 3GS looked the same.

the iPhone 4 was the first to take this square band style.
 
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oVerboost

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Sep 17, 2013
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No one is forced to upgrade or buy a new phone every time they release a new device...

Shape wise, what did you want them to do?! Many people vocally stated on forums like this that they preferred the square design - perhaps Apple actually listened to their customers? Even if they didn't, we've now got a thinner, lighter, nicer looking (IMO) device over the previous shape(s). Hardly flip-flopping when there are many years between each change. It also enabled them to offer better drop protection due to the way the glass sits flush into the body all round as well as increasing screen size whilst actually making the body smaller in some models. I'd take convenience and a product that worked reliably over gimmicks and "innovation" that proves pointless and is dropped a year later after people invest into it (Google Soli as one example).

People saying they aren't innovative? The camera in the new Pro Max is amazing technology inside a phone?! You have to have high level DSLR cameras for that kind of tech to stabilise the sensor.
Look at camera devices like the Sony RX range, they get small updates every year, and the price keeps on increasing. And that's just a camera - that doesn't take photos THAT much better than the iPhone until you have ideal conditions and then pixel peep deep into the photo (it also has a fairly small sensor).
The MagSafe idea is also innovative, going forwards it means a port-less iPhone is in the future, and this is a step towards that reality, but in the nearer future it also means you can have battery cases, external battery packs, camera add-ons etc.... the possibilities are endless as it improves and gets upgraded, it's early tech but I don't see it on anything else?

The reason for delays in announcing the device was due to not having the phone ready to ship, if they had of announced it when they did the iPad Air you'd have the same situation as you do with that, people wondering when it's going to be released, why it was announced before you could get one etc... Amongst probably numerous other reasons that we will never know about.
 
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now i see it

macrumors G4
Jan 2, 2002
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Every future iPhone will be a little bit better than the previous model for as long as they make iPhones. It will take approximately ten generations of improvements (iPhone 8 to iPhone 18) to get a new iPhone that'll really be a good upgrade
 
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Plut

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Sep 20, 2017
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I feel like every iPhone from first through the 6 blew me away. Since then every release has been really underwhelming.

On the other hand if you add up all the upgrades since the 6 and the improvements are huge.
 
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