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I promise this is my last reply, haha. Off the charger at 6AM, one charge to 100%, screenshot in late evening. Yesterday I mostly played YT videos during work with audio only, and otherwise used the phone as normal.

Pretty insane and I take back any doubt I had about the battery. For those who care, this was with LTE, low power mode during videos, background refresh off, low brightness, haptic typing off. I’ll use more of that now, I just wanted to see if I could get close to Apple’s advertised hours for this monster phone!
 
FWIW folks should post screenshots of both their 24hr and 10d battery graphs. The 10d and screen-time-app graphs alone can be misleading as they hide SOT use while plugging in.
 
FWIW folks should post screenshots of both their 24hr and 10d battery graphs. The 10d and screen-time-app graphs alone can be misleading as they hide SOT use while plugging in.
I think it's the opposite actually. 24 hours can include the previous charge time, potentially getting more confusing about actual hours, whereas Screen Time always says ("connected to charger") on the per-app breakdown. I see lots of people comment on that here and on Reddit.

My most previous screenshot shows only activity from 5:55AM-on, battery only, on 11/15 after that most recent charge
 
I think it's the opposite actually. 24 hours can include the previous charge time, potentially getting more confusing about actual hours, whereas Screen Time always says ("connected to charger") on the per-app breakdown. I see lots of people comment on that here and on Reddit.

My most previous screenshot shows only activity from 5:55AM-on, battery only, on 11/15 after that most recent charge

In your example, your 24hr SOT subtotal would be accurate as shown - you took off the charger at 6am and had no SOT usage prior to that. Unfortunately, we can not see your per-app breakdown for the ‘connected to charger’ notes on one screenshot… and even if we could, does that note provide enough detail on how long it was connected? (IDK, don’t use Screentime).

… Off the charger at 6AM, one charge to 100%, screenshot in late evening.

This is what I find confusing - did you follow your written order of 1) take off the charger @6, then 2) one [more?] charge to 100%, then 3) screenshot late evening? Or was it 2), then 1), then 3)? The 24hr graph would show that.

If it was, in fact, the latter 2, 1, 3 order, then I must complement you/your phone as 14hrs (??, the 3 subtotals only add to 12.7hrs?) on 67% batt extrapolates to ~21hrs, or >70% Apple spec - that’s about as close to Apple spec I’ve seen, (well, after my XR). But if you were on mostly wifi, you probably be able to achieve Apple spec… maybe better!
 
FWIW folks should post screenshots of both their 24hr and 10d battery graphs. The 10d and screen-time-app graphs alone can be misleading as they hide SOT use while plugging in.
the best measurement has always been in battery and using past 10 days and picking the right day. past 24 hours is never accurate of what you have really.
 
I'm currently on 31% left with 4 hours, 50 minutes screen on time. I always have AOD on so no doubt I could get more with it off but I don't believe in switching off features certainly when I enjoy them

I will likely have AOD on with wallpaper off when 16.2 releases
 
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the best measurement has always been in battery and using past 10 days and picking the right day. past 24 hours is never accurate of what you have really.

The 24hr graph is accurate, you just need to back-out SOT from the subtotals before/during plug-in. So this 24hr graph example is actually ~7.5hrs on ~50% batt (easy to see/back-out that first hour). By the same token, Aug 29 on the 10d graph, showing ~9hrs SOT on ~50% batt, is inaccurate due to that same 1hr usage while plugged in - it should be ~8hrs on 50% batt. As mentioned in my OP SOT usage while plugged-in is hidden on the 10d graphs.
 
I decided to see if I could get two day's usage from my 14 PM. On day one I browsed the net, ordered from Amazon, spent time on Apple Community and MacRumors, used the Notes and Wallet apps (with Auto-Lock set to 'Never') whilst shopping, listened to music for an hour or so, used a bus times app, checked progress on deliveries, and rounded off the day by watching five hours of streamed and downloaded movies. At the end of day one, there was 53% left in the battery. Day two consisted of much the same activities and ended with 13% left. I did not use Always On Display at any time. Charging back to 100% took about four hours on a 15.5W adaptor. I am highly satisfied and wondering if I shall ever need the power bank I bought.
 
My 11-day old 14PM is doing great, 30% left yesterday with 7.5 hours of SOT. This Friday was an outlier as 3 hours was while plugged in. This is first phone I've owned that's given me 'all-day' battery life. I'm never going back to a non Pro Max/Plus iPhone.
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My 11-day old 14PM is doing great, 30% left yesterday with 7.5 hours of SOT. This Friday was an outlier as 3 hours was while plugged in. This is first phone I've owned that's given me 'all-day' battery life. I'm never going back to a non Pro Max/Plus iPhone.
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That's great news. I too am highly satisfied with the battery performance of my 14PM, having squeezed two days out of it at one point, with 18% still left. That was an exception; it's usually still got about 30% left after a (for me) fairly heavy day's use.
 
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View attachment 2113915I promise this is my last reply, haha. Off the charger at 6AM, one charge to 100%, screenshot in late evening. Yesterday I mostly played YT videos during work with audio only, and otherwise used the phone as normal.

Pretty insane and I take back any doubt I had about the battery. For those who care, this was with LTE, low power mode during videos, background refresh off, low brightness, haptic typing off. I’ll use more of that now, I just wanted to see if I could get close to Apple’s advertised hours for this monster phone!
I had said before that I wasn’t impressed, it seems that we’ve found the reason: people’s Settings are way too heavy and usage is, too. That’s why results are fairly low.

When people use it for lighter tasks, and when they optimise settings, battery life is closer to what it should be. It appears that heavy settings on iOS 16 are truly heavy, which would agree with my long-time assessment of iOS updates being constantly heavier than before. The iPhone 14 Pro Max should obliterate my Xʀ on iOS 12, and it does! As long as settings are optimised and usage is as light as I use it.

This post here should a similar optimisation to mine, and like the post I am replying to shows, you can see great battery life: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-your-battery-life-been.2375333/post-31872004

It seems heavily unoptimised usage patterns have a massive impact on battery life. You did not see that back on iOS 9 or 10, with the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus retaining closer battery life to that shown by light users. Yes, it was significantly worse, but maybe it went from 12 hours with optimisations to 7-8. This thread’s results show 5-8 hours, but optimisation and the GSMarena test show it can get to north of 20 hours. The difference of unoptimised, heavy usage patterns is massive. My assessment is evident: heavy settings are heavier on the battery on iOS 16 than iOS 9 or 10, with the same baseline parameters: original iOS version designed for the device.
 
I decided to see if I could get two day's usage from my 14 PM. On day one I browsed the net, ordered from Amazon, spent time on Apple Community and MacRumors, used the Notes and Wallet apps (with Auto-Lock set to 'Never') whilst shopping, listened to music for an hour or so, used a bus times app, checked progress on deliveries, and rounded off the day by watching five hours of streamed and downloaded movies. At the end of day one, there was 53% left in the battery. Day two consisted of much the same activities and ended with 13% left. I did not use Always On Display at any time. Charging back to 100% took about four hours on a 15.5W adaptor. I am highly satisfied and wondering if I shall ever need the power bank I bought.
I normally can't get past a full day (which is fine, I use a ton of intensive apps on my normal routine). But my dad came to visit for a weekend so my usage of the phone was really basic, some Google Maps, some Safari and some WhatsApp and texting. I came back the night of Saturday with 75% left.

I then decided to not charge it and see how it faired the next day. It lost around 5% overnight (which I think is acceptable, right?) and the next day, with more of the same and I got back home, did some FaceTime with mom and still had around 35%-40% left by Sunday night. To be honest, not bad at all.
 
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I disagree as I remember it. Even if the 6s processor was more optimized than the 6, “heavy usage” obliterated the battery on the 6s.
I’m going by results on the 6s thread. Yes, heavy usage was bad because the battery size was too small. Obviously any iPhone with a larger battery will obliterate it, especially the 14 Pro Max on its original iOS version, but 7 hours is a quarter of Apple specs. A 6s might’ve gotten 4 hours with heavy usage on iOS 9, maybe even a little less, but a 6s can’t get 12-16 hours. Comparatively speaking, it’s worse. Of course a direct comparison is pointless: A 14 Pro Max will obliterate a 6s, regardless of the 6s’ iOS version.

I’m not talking about sheer hours, but rather about proportions. Sheer hours? You’re right! High brightness camera use on my 6s on iOS 10 drops it to 50% in about two hours of usage. There’s no way a 14 Pro Max gets two hours, but that’s about as heavy of a usage I can muster. Assuming I can get to about 3.5 hours on a full charge on iOS 10, a lighter usage charge gives me 7.5-8 hours. Percentage-wise, that’s about 45%. Apple quotes 29 hours on the 14 Pro Max. Assuming real-world maximum potential is a little lower than that, just to be fair, 7 hours is about 25% of that. Comparatively speaking, it’s worse.

Excluding this fringe case scenario, like I said, more mixed heavy usage on the 6s, proportionally speaking, is even better, even if it’s abhorrent on absolute terms. In my tests, it seems to be about 60%. On absolute screen-on time numbers? Far worse, even on iOS 10. Percentage-wise? Significantly better, and that was my point.

And that’s on the 6s. The 6s Plus was even better, its larger battery coupled with iOS 9 or 10’s more efficient battery consumption would produce an even better ratio.
 
I’m going by results on the 6s thread. Yes, heavy usage was bad because the battery size was too small. Obviously any iPhone with a larger battery will obliterate it, especially the 14 Pro Max on its original iOS version, but 7 hours is a quarter of Apple specs. A 6s might’ve gotten 4 hours with heavy usage on iOS 9, maybe even a little less, but a 6s can’t get 12-16 hours. Comparatively speaking, it’s worse. Of course a direct comparison is pointless: A 14 Pro Max will obliterate a 6s, regardless of the 6s’ iOS version.

I’m not talking about sheer hours, but rather about proportions. Sheer hours? You’re right! High brightness camera use on my 6s on iOS 10 drops it to 50% in about two hours of usage. There’s no way a 14 Pro Max gets two hours, but that’s about as heavy of a usage I can muster. Assuming I can get to about 3.5 hours on a full charge on iOS 10, a lighter usage charge gives me 7.5-8 hours. Percentage-wise, that’s about 45%. Apple quotes 29 hours on the 14 Pro Max. Assuming real-world maximum potential is a little lower than that, just to be fair, 7 hours is about 25% of that. Comparatively speaking, it’s worse.

Excluding this fringe case scenario, like I said, more mixed heavy usage on the 6s, proportionally speaking, is even better, even if it’s abhorrent on absolute terms. In my tests, it seems to be about 60%. On absolute screen-on time numbers? Far worse, even on iOS 10. Percentage-wise? Significantly better, and that was my point.

And that’s on the 6s. The 6s Plus was even better, its larger battery coupled with iOS 9 or 10’s more efficient battery consumption would produce an even better ratio.
What matters to me is the absolute battery life. A 14PM will have better battery life using the latest iOS version than a 6S+ using iOS 10.
 
What matters to me is the absolute battery life. A 14PM will have better battery life using the latest iOS version than a 6S+ using iOS 10.
Absolutely! My comment was geared towards relative battery life. In absolute terms, the 6s+ cannot compete.
 
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Any update here?
I'm gonna switch from 13PM to 14PM this week.

Is the Battery life really worse? That would be quite a bummer.

I've been using the 13PM for 12 months now and it's at 97% Battery health (best result ever).
Battery always got me through the day.

As a heavy user I've quite 'mistreated' it.
Charged it almost every day (MagSafe only). Via cable should be probably better? Phone often heats up but yea.. It's still at 97%.

With iOS 16.3.1 I have the feeling, that over mobile data the battery drains more than before.
I've 5G turned off always.
 
My iPhone 14 Pro max battery feels like its deteriorating.

96% health already, never wireless charge but charge daily.

Bought 7th October.

Always seems to have bad luck.

iPhone x
iPhone pro 12 max
iPhone pro 14 max

Mrs iPhone 11 Pro - still 100% battery life. Don’t get it.
 
My iPhone 14 Pro max battery feels like its deteriorating.

96% health already, never wireless charge but charge daily.

Bought 7th October.

Always seems to have bad luck.

iPhone x
iPhone pro 12 max
iPhone pro 14 max

Mrs iPhone 11 Pro - still 100% battery life. Don’t get it.
Ive got the same model iPhone and bought it on launch day with mine still at 100% battery health but i charge it every second day though.
 
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