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trustever

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Here is my dilemma, my almost 3 years old HTC Desire has often some crash and the headphone jack no longer fits in properly so that I cant use it which means that I am due an upgrade.
My experience with Android has been positive, I like it but did not like that the phone never received a proper OS upgrade since I bought it and to have it on Ginger Bread I had to install a custom ROM. The apps are mostly buggy and could not tell which is causing problem to the phone but what I notice is when more memory is needed (ie apps upgrade) the phone hangs for minutes and sometime the only solution is to remove the battery for few minutes and restart it.
Comparing my phone with my girfriend Iphone 4 that has been purchased mostly at the same time her phone performs much better than mine, everything looks smooth and fast, the screen is brilliant and so on.
All of this to say that I am very torn about purchasing a new unlocked phone, with GBP 400 I can buy a grade A used 32 GB Iphone 5 or I can buy the new Nexus 5 when it will come out.
Of the Nexus 5 I will appreciate probably the longer lasting battery and the larger screen but I am afraid that in 2 years time it might present the same problems that HTC Desire is showing since a year.
What will you do if you have to choose between a used Iphone 5 and a new Nexus 5 (Iphone 5s and 5c are not an option as they far from my budget)
 

maflynn

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May 3, 2009
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If you like the android platform, stick with it. I don't think you can make a mistake with either phone.

Personally, I think you'll like the N5 better because
  1. You'll get updates directly from google, no longer waiting (and hoping) for the manufacturer to send an update.
  2. You are already fairly involved with the android platform. You'll have to rebuy your apps.
  3. If you're using google service, its probably to stick with android, while the iPhone can do google services I think android offers a more integrated solution. I'd say the same thing for the iPhone if you used iCloud.
  4. You already mentioned you want a larger screen.
If I were to return to the android platform it would be because of either the Note III or the N5. While we don't know the specs (officially) of the N5, I think it will be a good phone. I was not disappointed with the Nexus One when I owned it and I expect the N5 to be top notch.
 

cdmoore74

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Jun 24, 2010
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If your not on Verizon then I would go with the Nexus 5. This is the only Android phone I would consider for a true Google experience and lets face it; it's a better phone spec wise with an OS that is still ahead of iOS 7 at over half the cost (big assumption that the N5 will be $300). That being said I own a iPhone 5s on Verizon but I do own a Nexus 7 and a Note 10.1 for my Android fix. While Verizon prices may suck they do have the best service out of all the carriers. I'm like 90% sure that Verizon will not carry the Nexus 5 because I don't see them having a $300 LTE phone and they hate unlocked bootloaders on their network; just ask any Galaxy S4 owner. I may actually pick up a Nexus 5 to use around the house as a mini-phablet especially if the price is $300.
Coming from a Note 2 I actually feel that the small size of the iPhone 5s is an upgrade. The main issue I have with Samsung and other Android OEM's is that their not updating the phones fast enough. By the time a device gets updated Google is about to release another update. This is the primary reason for picking the iPhone and Nexus; no other 2 devices can compare.
So as you can see I'm not some blind fanboy and have some logic behind the madness. But if Google and Verizon came back together and released a $300 Nexus 5 I'm selling my iPhone 5s.

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If you like the android platform, stick with it. I don't think you can make a mistake with either phone.

Personally, I think you'll like the N5 better because
  1. You'll get updates directly from google, no longer waiting (and hoping) for the manufacturer to send an update.
  2. You are already fairly involved with the android platform. You'll have to rebuy your apps.
  3. If you're using google service, its probably to stick with android, while the iPhone can do google services I think android offers a more integrated solution. I'd say the same thing for the iPhone if you used iCloud.
  4. You already mentioned you want a larger screen.
If I were to return to the android platform it would be because of either the Note III or the N5. While we don't know the specs (officially) of the N5, I think it will be a good phone. I was not disappointed with the Nexus One when I owned it and I expect the N5 to be top notch.

Why did you tease me with the Note 3; today is Verizon's release date. The one reason I picked the 5s over the Note 3 was because my Note 2 is still on Android 4.1.2. That update was released on 10/9/2012. So basically my Note 2 software is 1 year and 1 day old; Samsung does not care about updating software after the sell. Hardware wise the Note 3 is a killer; it has 32gig out the box and is the same price as the 32gig iPhone. If you can get past the size and lack of updates then it's top 3 on my list.
 

ezekielrage_99

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I'm personally waiting for the Moto X, it looks rather impressive and my old Nexus4 is kind of falling apart...

But not sure when it will be available in Australia :rolleyes:
 

trustever

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Jan 14, 2013
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Moto X I am afraid it is USA only otherwise I would have got it already. Nice phone at a very affordable price.

Forgot to add that I have a Imac and will be buying an Ipad mini 2 when it will comes out so Iphone will be better integrated but still not yet convinced on the hardware which looks bit retareded.
 

ezekielrage_99

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Oct 12, 2005
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Moto X I am afraid it is USA only otherwise I would have got it already. Nice phone at a very affordable price.

Yeah, that was my thinking. I was dearly hoping the Moto X was going to launch in Australia but I agree with you I believe it's only US&A for the moment...

Forgot to add that I have a Imac and will be buying an Ipad mini 2 when it will comes out so Iphone will be better integrated but still not yet convinced on the hardware which looks bit retareded.

I''ve got a Macbook Air and Nexus4, they seem to tether nicely. I do believe there's less of the difference with platforms compared to years gone by because there seems to be far more integration and compatibility between systems.
 

blackhand1001

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Jan 6, 2009
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Nexus 5. You can't go wrong with a nexus and it looksa like this time around they didn't cut corners. I still love my galaxy nexus and I have had it for 2 years.
 

Ethanallen

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Oct 9, 2013
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IPhone 5 or IPad Mini

I am a bussiness man i need to buy a new gadget for my christmas. Now iam using nokia lumia but i want to change my phone from the last 1 year iam planing to buy ipad mini when it was launched, but still i am waiting for ipad mini 2 with retina display its getting late so now iam confused which one to buy IPhone 5 or IPad Mini - Guys please suggest me which one to buy, iam planning to buy the device as early as possible!!!:confused::confused::confused:
 

trustever

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Jan 14, 2013
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I am a bussiness man i need to buy a new gadget for my christmas. Now iam using nokia lumia but i want to change my phone from the last 1 year iam planing to buy ipad mini when it was launched, but still i am waiting for ipad mini 2 with retina display its getting late so now iam confused which one to buy IPhone 5 or IPad Mini - Guys please suggest me which one to buy, iam planning to buy the device as early as possible!!!:confused::confused::confused:

Mate, without wanting to be offensive, but could you please open you own tread if you want to discuss IP5 vs Ipad Mini?

Thanks and regards
 

kenknotts

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Sep 23, 2013
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Get the iPhone 5. Vanilla Android is boring and very user UNfriendly and you will find yourself having to install custom ROMs. The iPhone is much more functional out of the box and will integrate with your other Apple products much better.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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Get the iPhone 5. Vanilla Android is boring and very user UNfriendly and you will find yourself having to install custom ROMs. The iPhone is much more functional out of the box and will integrate with your other Apple products much better.

Although the iPhone 5 is a superb phone I find myself disagreeing with almost everything in the above post. The only thing I find remotely correct is the integration with other Apple products, all the rest is incorrect hearsay/FUD. Period.

I have had an iPhone 3GS, 4, 4S and 5 a SGS3, SGS4 and Nexus 4.
 
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THE JUICEMAN

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Oct 3, 2007
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Get the iPhone 5. Vanilla Android is boring and very user UNfriendly and you will find yourself having to install custom ROMs. The iPhone is much more functional out of the box and will integrate with your other Apple products much better.

Functional is the wrong word because android devices are more functional out of the box. They can do much more. iPhone used to be more user friendly and fluid but now that gap has closed IMO.
 

macred

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Oct 8, 2013
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LAX & beyond
I've had all the iPhone's and currently use iOS 7. It's pretty good and will get better as Apple works out the bugs.

Recently I decided to buy a Galaxy Note 3 upon release from AT&T adding a line to my family plan. I must say the transition was much easier than expected and I'm enjoying the beautiful large display immensely. Android 4.3 is incredibly capable and fast. It's very stable and easier to become accustomed to than I anticipated.

I plan on using both going forward with the Note 3 seeing most of the use as my primary smartphone. I'll have the iPhone as a placeholder since I'm still holding out hope that at some point in the next few years Apple will catch up.
 

kenknotts

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Sep 23, 2013
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Functional is the wrong word because android devices are more functional out of the box. They can do much more. iPhone used to be more user friendly and fluid but now that gap has closed IMO.

We'll keep in mind that the vast majority of users are doing very basic things like calls, texts, emails, web, games, music and videos with their phone. The iPhone will do all that and then some easily. It's a VERY small percentage of tech savvy types that want things like file managers, custom launchers and those other things that in your mind make an Android phone capable of so much more. As far as user friendly goes, of course it's the iPhone. I can pick up any gen iphone running any version of iOS and know exactly what I'm doing and how to do it. Ive owned a ton of Android phones over the years and when I just had the G2 to test out, it took me awhile to figure out where everything was and how to make it work. Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony....they all have different UIs and go about doing things differently. iOS is much more user friendly, not even close.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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We'll keep in mind that the vast majority of users are doing very basic things like calls, texts, emails, web, games, music and videos with their phone. The iPhone will do all that and then some easily. It's a VERY small percentage of tech savvy types that want things like file managers, custom launchers and those other things that in your mind make an Android phone capable of so much more. As far as user friendly goes, of course it's the iPhone. I can pick up any gen iphone running any version of iOS and know exactly what I'm doing and how to do it. Ive owned a ton of Android phones over the years and when I just had the G2 to test out, it took me awhile to figure out where everything was and how to make it work. Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony....they all have different UIs and go about doing things differently. iOS is much more user friendly, not even close.

I think this is where Google is failing IMO. They need to make the basic OS more rock solid. The issue is all the carrier customizations/skins mess with this. I would think Google had (or currently has) enough power to tell the carriers no skins, but they didn't have a hardware product at their OS launch like Apple did.

So you have Google who can possibly streamline google now into a true Siri competitor, but why bother if the vast majority of phones have their own baked in but completely crappy siri replacements like S-voice and Voice mate. Now if Google grew some balls and gave google now true personal assistant qualities, and allowed us to map google now to things like the home button and a Bluetooth headset button we would have some real completion. There is a weird disconnect there though, with the forced internet searches (yes I know google makes money on eyeball traffic) and how you still have to hack your phone just to get it to work with the home button, and there isn't even a freakin solution for Bluetooth activation.
 

THE JUICEMAN

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Oct 3, 2007
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Iphone 5 or Nexus 5

We'll keep in mind that the vast majority of users are doing very basic things like calls, texts, emails, web, games, music and videos with their phone. The iPhone will do all that and then some easily. It's a VERY small percentage of tech savvy types that want things like file managers, custom launchers and those other things that in your mind make an Android phone capable of so much more. As far as user friendly goes, of course it's the iPhone. I can pick up any gen iphone running any version of iOS and know exactly what I'm doing and how to do it. Ive owned a ton of Android phones over the years and when I just had the G2 to test out, it took me awhile to figure out where everything was and how to make it work. Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony....they all have different UIs and go about doing things differently. iOS is much more user friendly, not even close.

I can agree when it comes to skinned android phones. But we are talking Nexus here. It's the closest to iOS in terms of being user friendly. It does all the basic things you named pretty well too. And in terms of functionality wise there's still more you can do with android for sure. iOS is still the easiest of the easiest and I still enjoy my iPhone 5 but I can't wait for the Nexus 5 so that I can do things my way and not apple's way.
 

Sensamic

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Mar 26, 2010
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Actually, stock 4.3 android is way more fluid and fast than iOS 7.

The new animations in iOS 7 are slower than on iOS 6, as many many users have pointed out in the iOS 7 subforum, as well as anyone can see in YouTube videos.

On the other hand, stock 4.3 is lightning fast and fluid opening and closing apps, folders, etc. And it can be even faster if you completely disable the animations.

Enough with the "iOS is faster and more fluid". Those days are over, as are the ones of "Android is not polished".

We are talking stock android obviously. Skinned versions are different. They don't matter.

What would happen if iOS was open and there were iOS skinned versions out there? Exactly the same.

So just compare iOS to stock android.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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Which one are you using now and why is your favorite?

Thanks

I still have the SGS4 and Nexus 4, I like "tinkering" with my phones and find the iPhone to restrictive for me to change the look and feel when I want, I also like the larger screens of the Android offerings, they suit my old eyes better. I have never rooted or jailbroke a phone in my life, for my limited use I have found no need. I prefer the customisation options of Android over iOS. I mainly use my SGS4 and keep my Nexus 4 to see what the updates are like as soon as they are released.

As superb a phone as the iPhone 5 was/is, I suppose I just got bored of it and found it to be too much like the iPhone 4S and 4 before it. I am not saying that is a fault, to some it is a strength and I recognise this fact, but to me it was still the same old same old.

Of the two choices you have referenced, I would pick the Nexus 5 but recognise that the iPhone 5S is still a wonderful device, a great problem to have. Enjoy your new phone whichever way you decide. :)

Edit; Just noticed I haven't answered your question fully, of all the phones I have had my favourite is the SGS4, I just seem to enjoy it the most and class it as the best I have owned. It's closely followed by the Nexus 4.
 
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